Texas

[86MEHorn]

The word Texas is a national name were the Texas aggies sounds like a hardware store. My friends y'all have a great day

Like it! Further, the hardware is from 1939, plus some imitation stuff from 1919 and 1927. There is a DJ on the sidewalk screaming, "come inside...we're hip now".

 

[java]

Folks, what got me started on this was a commercial by Sumlin. He identified our little country cousins as "Fighin' Texas Aggies". It made me think about the number of schools, Universities, who can be identified by one word or initials. Think about it. I think you can count that number using your fingers, and I am not certain that you need them all.

For me that list includes:

Texas

USC

Alabama

Oklahoma

Notre Dame

LSU

Michigan

Ohio State

FSU

Florida

Would have included Penn State, but I simply cannot. Paterno's legacy, to me, is forever tarnished. Tennessee doesn't belong, not certain that LSU does, either, except for the Saban years. A&M, no way, they would get no play if they weren't in Texas. UCLA built their reputation with basketball. Stanford has been good in recent years, but prior to that, nope. Twenty years from now, let's see what they have produced.

Your thoughts? Additions? Deletions?

 

[SFlonghorngirl]

Your thoughts? Additions? Deletions?

Are we talking about overall school reputation: academics and athletics, or just football?

 

[SFlonghorngirl]

If it's overall reputation based on academics and athletics, then I have 5 in mind:

TEXAS

MICHIGAN

UCLA

STANFORD

NORTH CAROLINA

 

[java]

If it's overall reputation based on academics and athletics, then I have 5 in mind:
TEXAS

MICHIGAN

UCLA

STANFORD

NORTH CAROLINA

I agree with that list, but would add Notre Dame. Historically, their athletics are good, and I don't think you can question their academics. However, in that list I was only thinking of athletics, specifically football. I think these will be the big dogs in the upcoming realignment that I believe will eventually be 4 divisions of 16 teams.

I believe that conferences will have a great deal of input, but there are some schools that, regardless of conference affiliation, simply cannot be left out. As you know, my view on realignment is that it must be limited to football, due to the vast number of considerations that come into play with the other sports.

At this time, all conferences have their weaker members. These are the members that have rarely carried their weight, and when revenue is discussed, football is king. When a conference member cannot put butts in the stands for home football games, they probably will not have a good following for bowl games or have a profitable bottom line.

UCLA, basketball

North Carolina, basketball

 

[pringlelake]

Extremely disappointing to now see University of Miami ranked above University of Texas in the rankings done by U S News and World Report.

 

[SFlonghorngirl]

Extremely disappointing to now see University of Miami ranked above University of Texas in the rankings done by U S News and World Report.

London Times World University Rankings: We're top 30.

http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2013/reputation-ranking

 

[goast55]

I just say Texas. Ironically I work with some good people from Oklahoma who are all Sooners. Take away football, they are much better people than the Aggies I've encountered who can't help themselves but call me a T-sip or hiss...-smh-

 

[echeese]

Was at Disney World 4 years ago or so. . . we were there a week and without realizing it .. .i wore TEXAS shirts about every day. . . .now plenty of other college shirts were being worn but it was amazing how often I'd hear "Hook'em Horns" often at some distance. . .

My wife's family is from Central Washington. . . .you NEVER see someone with a Washington State flag flying from their home. . .but I did see 3 Texas flags as we traveled (we were doing the wine region tour. . .some GREAT reds)

When I was in Australia. . . .they asked all of us what state we were from. . . .again when I said Texas .. . the response was more enthusiastic. . .noone said "where's that". . . .

As John Steinbeck said:

“Texas is a state of mind. Texas is an obsession. Above all, Texas is a nation in every sense of the word. And there's an opening convey of generalities. A Texan outside of Texas is a foreigner.â€

 

[doc longhorn]

When I played at Torrey Pines, I was wearing a Longhorn visor. The starter asked where I went to school. In my head, I was like "Duh, isn't it obvious." I said "Texas" and he then asked a follow-up question "Is that in College Station? The Aggies?" SMH....
Unfortunately, TAMU is the hot school from the state of Texas. My friend from the Bay Area who is not a sports fan at all asked where I went to school, I said "Texas." She also asked if that was Texas A&M in College Station.

See, you must be and act as a missionary in the west coast. You must carry the word and chastise those that utter blasphemy by using anything aggy in their vocabulary.

You are our standard of UT light for the lemmings of the left coast.

Show them your guns.

 

[java]

Extremely disappointing to now see University of Miami ranked above University of Texas in the rankings done by U S News and World Report.

Pringle Lake, perhaps this will make you feel better. SFLonghornGirl provided the link in post above, but I am listing all of the US based universities from the linked report. We are in some pretty elite company, and their selection criteria appear sound. Below is the the list:

1. Harvard

2. MIT

5. Cal – Berkeley

6. Stanford

7. Princeton

8. UCLA

10. Yale

11. Caltech

12. Michigan

13. Columbia

14. University of Chicago

17. Cornell

18. Penn

19. Johns Hopkins

24. University of Illinois Urbana Champaign

26. Carnegie Melon U.

27. University of Texas at Austin

 

[java]

SFLG,

It appears to me that we would help the academic profile of the PAC 12. According to this list, we are rank 4th to only Berkeley, Stanford, and UCLA. Why do they object to UT-Austin?

 

[SFlonghorngirl]

SFLG,
It appears to me that we would help the academic profile of the PAC 12. According to this list, we are rank 4th to only Berkeley, Stanford, and UCLA. Why do they object to UT-Austin?

They don't object at all. Larry Scott would love Texas to join the PAC. Our culture at UT-Austin are similar to those in the PAC. Last fall, I took a friend from the SF to the Ole Miss game. She's a Stanford grad and was blown away by the football culture at Texas. This was her first time in Texas and loved Austin. She's looking forward to visiting again.

From my first comment in the thread, the non-collegiate sports fans I encountered recently had a hard time differentiating between Texas and Texas A&M. I think the recent rise in popularity of TAMU because of Manziel might have confused them. But the knowledgeable college fans in the Bay Area do recognize the Longhorn symbol. I get honked by drivers showing me the Hook'em Horns all the time.

Texas has a great reputation on the West Coast and the entire US. My cousin who was admitted to Cal, also applied to UT-Austin because of the great reputation. My friend in NYC, his niece from Minnesota also applied to UT-Austin because of reputation and was accepted and debating to attend college in Austin next fall.

Before I met my ex, he rooted for Texas for the only reason that UT & UCLA had similar academic and athletic reputation. I encounter a lot of grads of similar school reputation that say the same thing.

Unsure if I answered your question Java, but Texas is definitely respected by knowledgeable fans here on the West Coast.

 

[java]

I think it was on Hornsports that someone said Stanford did not want UT in the PAC? What the heck?

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

SFLG,
It appears to me that we would help the academic profile of the PAC 12. According to this list, we are rank 4th to only Berkeley, Stanford, and UCLA. Why do they object to UT-Austin?

Larry Scott and the Pac-12 object to LHN, not UT. Do you think they'd choose Colorado and Utah over UT? Please.

Personally, I don't want to see us join the Pac-12 b/c their alumni and fans aren't as passionate about collegiate athletics. Pac-12 ranks last in attendance and TV ratings of the Big 5 conferences. As a matter of fact, they rank 6th for hoops behind the new Big East.

Combine apathy with their undesirable time zone and you can count me as a Big-12 supporter. If we ever got serious about moving, I'd prefer the ACC. Better time zone, media coverage, and fan support.

 

[beevomav]

I didn't realize people in CA are that dumb. Surprising, b/c many are relocating to Austin for work. You'd think they'd know the difference between The University and aggy.

Most people in southern California are not sports fans. There is a reason the NFL is not in LA, no one there cares.

 

[java]

I hadn't thought about the ACC, but I will. I'm not a fan of the Big 12, and I'm not really a fan of the PAC for many of the reasons you state, including, time zone, apathy, and the pro-sports cities. They do have many of the large TV markets, though.

The ACC does have NYC, Boston, Miami (including much of South Florida), Atlanta?, and North Carolina?. I just don't know if any college does very much for NYC, Boston, Miami, and Atlanta.

Notre Dame and UT are the plums waiting to fall from the tree. If Notre Dame, UT, and OU would partner up, conferences would open up the voting and the checkbooks. Blackballs would be removed from the inventory. Networks would start salivating and the bidding would probably set a record that would never be witnessed again in modern times.

I am going to sleep on that thought and dream.

 

[SFlonghorngirl]

Most people in southern California are not sports fans. There is a reason the NFL is not in LA, no one there cares.

Yup. Why go to a game when you can hang at the beach? Too much to do in LA with great weather year round.

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

I hadn't thought about the ACC, but I will. I'm not a fan of the Big 12, and I'm not really a fan of the PAC for many of the reasons you state, including, time zone, apathy, and the pro-sports cities. They do have many of the large TV markets, though.
The ACC does have NYC, Boston, Miami (including much of South Florida), Atlanta?, and North Carolina?. I just don't know if any college does very much for NYC, Boston, Miami, and Atlanta.

Notre Dame and UT are the plums waiting to fall from the tree. If Notre Dame, UT, and OU would partner up, conferences would open up the voting and the checkbooks. Blackballs would be removed from the inventory. Networks would start salivating and the bidding would probably set a record that would never be witnessed again in modern times.

I am going to sleep on that thought and dream.

Notre Dame had their chance to join the Big 12, but declined. Reasons are twofold:

1. Most of their alumni live on the east coast in ACC country

2. ACC made them an offer that they couldn't refuse. Part-time football membership, full-time for all other sports

Irish keep their sweetheart NBC deal for home games, if I'm not mistaken. ND's Swarbrick flirted with DeLoss & Big 12, but it wasn't gonna happen.

 

[java]

Notre Dame had their chance to join the Big 12, but declined. Reasons are twofold:
1. Most of their alumni live on the east coast in ACC country

2. ACC made them an offer that they couldn't refuse. Part-time football membership, full-time for all other sports

Irish keep their sweetheart NBC deal for home games, if I'm not mistaken. ND's Swarbrick flirted with DeLoss & Big 12, but it wasn't gonna happen.

So, they might let us keep our sweetheart LHN deal for home games? Full-time all other sports?