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NFL Combine

Is Vegas offering odds on 40-times at the Combine?

Of course they are ......

Manziel: over/under 4.55 seconds

Bridgewater 4.6

Clowney 4.55

S Watkins 4.36

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Fastest 40 Yard Dash time at <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NFL&src=hash">#NFL</a> combine? over/under 4.28 seconds (via <a href="https://twitter.com/BovadaLV">@BovadaLV</a>)</p>— RJ Bell (@RJinVegas) <a href="

https://twitter.com/RJinVegas/statuses/436619179442331649">February 20, 2014</a></blockquote><script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 
Only 1, Chris Johnson, has made a significant impact in the NFL. There's track speed and there's game speed.

Since 2009, 15 WRs have run a sub-4.40 40-yd dash.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Over the last 5 years, Mike Wallace is the only combine Sub 4.4 receiver to gain 1,000 yards in a season.</p>— Chad Wilson (@GridironStuds) <a href="

https://twitter.com/GridironStuds/statuses/436650773255323648">February 20, 2014</a></blockquote><script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He may have missed Julio Jones, but point is made

 
Wow, Johnny Football won't throw at the NFL Combine or A&M's pro day? He must really wanna play for Cleveland! Big mistake, IMO.
he'll be having his own pro day at A&M on March 27.

top round QBs dont throw at the combine that often. nothing to gain.

 
Manziel at NFL combine: ‘I play like I’m 10 feet tall’

heh

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Just a few. Oh. My. RT <a href="https://twitter.com/Redskins">@Redskins</a>: "QB Johnny Manziel to Podium 3." Anyone have any questions? <a href="http://t.co/LeKaClCdsj">pic.twitter.com/LeKaClCdsj</a></p>— Chuck Carlton (@ChuckCarltonDMN) <a href="

https://twitter.com/ChuckCarltonDMN/statuses/436928973994340353">February 21, 2014</a></blockquote><script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 
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Video on the 4 Horns at Combine

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/xkpFh5QxogU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

 
I would like to see a PRE- Draft grade on each of these guys invited...Just to see how accurate the talking heads are.. I mean after you get past Clowney, Matthews and the quarterbacks, it gets a bit more difficult to project.

 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Official <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NFL&src=hash">#NFL</a> combine 40 times for QBs: Thomas 4.61, Morris 4.63, Shaw 4.66, Manziel 4.68, Carr 4.69, Boyd 4.84, Bortles 4.93. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Texans&src=hash">#Texans</a></p>— Brian T. Smith (@ChronBrianSmith) <a href="

https://twitter.com/PaulPabst/statuses/437612761887952896">February 23, 2014</a></blockquote><script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 
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Wow everyone thought Manziel was gonna run in the 4.5s
Well, JFF has added weight and his trainer says he's more focused on preparing for a 16-game NFL season than impressing at the Combine. Goal is to prevent injuries and add bulk to take the pounding. Smart goal, IMO.

 
Well, JFF has added weight and his trainer says he's more focused on preparing for a 16-game NFL season than impressing at the Combine. Goal is to prevent injuries and add bulk to take the pounding. Smart goal, IMO.
Doesn't that take away from one of his best attributes? I guess he's really banking on his development in the pocket

 
Doesn't that take away from one of his best attributes? I guess he's really banking on his development in the pocket
Not really. He still runs better than most NFL quarterbacks. JFF needs to develop his pocket passing, priority #1. He won't be around long if he doesn't.

 
he'll be having his own pro day at A&M on March 27.
top round QBs dont throw at the combine that often. nothing to gain.
I hear a lot of commentary in the media that JM's arm strength is a concern, but those comments are always quickly followed with the opinion that a few improvements in his throwing motion are all that is needed to fix the problem.

Shouldn't he have the kinks worked out of his throwing mechanics by now? What was he doing with all the extra time he had when everyone else was in class? I know he's leaving early, but it seems that if there are still glaring problems with his arm that it's either a coaching issue or he hasn't been successful in making adjustments and sticking with them.

 
Well, JFF has added weight and his trainer says he's more focused on preparing for a 16-game NFL season than impressing at the Combine. Goal is to prevent injuries and add bulk to take the pounding. Smart goal, IMO.
It's his speed and quickness that has kept him from taking a pounding. If he loses that, he's toast.

Funny, but that's pretty much the same thing VY did. If Vince was coming out this year, I wonder if he'd feel the same need to bulk up?

 
Not really. He still runs better than most NFL quarterbacks. JFF needs to develop his pocket passing, priority #1. He won't be around long if he doesn't.
Running better than QBs is fine. But 4.68 sounds like he's gonna struggle running better than nfl pass rushers.

 
Well, JFF has added weight and his trainer says he's more focused on preparing for a 16-game NFL season than impressing at the Combine. Goal is to prevent injuries and add bulk to take the pounding. Smart goal, IMO.
That eliminates the Manziel factor. He's a mobile QB. He's not a pocket passer. He won't do WOW things if he's not mobile.

 
Kent State RB Dri Archer almost set the all-time combine 40 record.

4.26 vs. Chris JohnsonՉ۪s 4.24.

Johnson noticed too.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Can't lie archer had the boi nervous</p>— Chris Johnson (@ChrisJohnson28) <a href="

https://twitter.com/ChrisJohnson28/statuses/437696948204994560">February 23, 2014</a></blockquote><script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 
former NFL scout \/

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Twitter is MUCH higher than NFL teams on Teddy Bridgewater. I won't be shocked to see him drop out of the top 10</p>— John Middlekauff (@JohnMiddlekauff) <a href="

https://twitter.com/JohnMiddlekauff/statuses/437719087750201344">February 23, 2014</a></blockquote><script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 
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Manziel is the best passer in this draft, and that is not just the Aggie speaking in me. Biggest knock on him by most is his durability, so he bulked up( has been progressively getting bigger since Spring 2013). He has never been sub 4.4 (in his own words) and his mobility is not based around speed but agility and quickness.

 
Manziel is the best passer in this draft, and that is not just the Aggie speaking in me. Biggest knock on him by most is his durability, so he bulked up( has been progressively getting bigger since Spring 2013). He has never been sub 4.4 (in his own words) and his mobility is not based around speed but agility and quickness.
Manziel has a weak arm by nfl standards, he struggles to go through progressions, he is turnover prone, and he has never displayed any sort of pocket presence.

 
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