Taking Sides on Johnny Manziel

[Matt Cotcher]

Let's do this...the countdown is on for draft night! Taking a Side on Manziel...

 

[Lukus Alderman]

No way should ANY team waste the number 1 overall pick on Manziel.

First of all, there are at least ten other players better than him available, including All-World DE Clowney.  On top of that, there are at least two or three other QBs equal to or better than him available.

If Houston wants to draft Manziel, they need to trade down into the teens.

 

[streettopeschel]

As a Texan fan i don't want him anywhere near my team. He's an overhyped midget who i wouldn't trust with an 8-figure signing bonus. Now, if i owned a strip club in Houston, I'd be all for it.

Matt...I wanted Houston to draft VY too, but he's been out of the league 2 years. in hindsight how big a 'bungle' was it ?

And Manziel will help them sell tickets? EVERY game in Reliant Stadium history has been sold out. That's a good arguement for JAX but Houston fans show up already.

I'll pass...big time.

 

[Randolph Duke]

Since Day 1, Bob McNair has made sure the Texans were an organization of professionals. I can't remember when he allowed any aspect of the organization to be handled with utmost decorum. Bill O'Brien saw first hand how the Bill Belichick model has built a successful organization. I don't see anyway either McNair or O'Brien toss aside their management styles to obtain whatever intangibles Manziel would presumably bring to the organization. The Patriots weren't built on any one individual. They have been constantly rebuilt and in spite of their continued success over the past decade the team's average age last season was 11th in the league, well below that of the Saints, Broncos and, yes, the Texans. In other words, O'Brien knows full well building a long term contender isn't done by rolling the dice on one potential superstar. It is done by constantly evaluating young talent and by not committing to long term contracts.

The overall 1 pick in the draft is going to be expected to see significant playing time and starting early in the season. Taking an undersized quarterback with questionable durability when you know your offensive line needs a lot of help is one of the least advisable choices for any organization. Add in that the personality of the player isn't a natural fit for the organization and that the individual has repeatedly made very bad personal choices at transitional times in his career,the fact he would have significant distractions available to him in Houston, that he would have significant pressure to maintain the persona he created in college as opposed to reinventing himself as a professional, that the media pressure (from which he has been shielded from up to now and that he has zero experience handling) will be relentless and that his own father, the individual who identified Johnny's issues with alcohol and a potential problem, has stated Houston would be a terrible personal fit for Johnny and I don't see how the Texans could come to the determination Manziel is the choice for them.

 

[Bear19]

I don't care where he goes but I hope it is to a team that really needs a quarterback. That way he gets to start his rookie season which means it will be that much sooner that he gets his punk ass punked.

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

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[J.B. TexasEx]

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[Matt Cotcher]

Matt...I wanted Houston to draft VY too, but he's been out of the league 2 years. in hindsight how big a 'bungle' was it ?

There's absolutely no way to know what would've happened if VY had gone to the Texans. His coaching and his entire support structure (living in his hometown) would have been vastly different. That's no guarantee that the outcome would've been different, but trying to project what would have been in Houston based on what was in Tennessee is a fool's errand, IMO.

 

[streettopeschel]

There's absolutely no way to know what would've happened if VY had gone to the Texans. His coaching and his entire support structure (living in his hometown) would have been vastly different. That's no guarantee that the outcome would've been different, but trying to project what would have been in Houston based on what was in Tennessee is a fool's errand, IMO.

of course there's not. calling it a bungle implies they made a mistake like passing on manning or luck. as of now, there's no  proof of that. maybe VY would have been different in HOU. we'll never know.