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Hermann needs to go

I'm J.B., HornSports resident True Texas Project representative, and I approve this message

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J.B. TexasEx said:
Oh, and @North Texas Golferand @Sirhornsalot, y'all are both pretty. ?

"Irrelevant" is a subjective term that can mean many different things, but I'd assert Texas Football hasn't been relevant much this past decade. But, it ain't worth arguing over. We can discuss this ad nauseam over a ? sometime if you're in DFW.
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Hey, I'm in for sure on the discussion over a beer. Hell, I'll buy the first round. But only if @Sirhornsalot buys the second ?

 
primal defense said:
DKR quit. Meyer was fired. Bottom line Meyer doesn't love Ohio State dearly like you said. Getting fired will do that. :)
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Meyer wasn’t fired; he resigned for health reasons. He still has a job at Ohio State.  Just opened a new restaurant next to the Ohio State campus. My son is going to Ohio State. 

 
Wayne said:
Meyer wasn’t fired; he resigned for health reasons. He still has a job at Ohio State.  Just opened a new restaurant next to the Ohio State campus. My son is going to Ohio State. 
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Urban knows how to party - another plus. BMDs will have to get him a good deal on prime real estate. ?

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J.B. TexasEx said:
Oh, and @North Texas Golferand @Sirhornsalot, y'all are both pretty. ?

"Irrelevant" is a subjective term that can mean many different things, but I'd assert Texas Football hasn't been relevant much this past decade. But, it ain't worth arguing over. We can discuss this ad nauseam over a ? sometime if you're in DFW.
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I hate ate to see us discussing “ irrelevant”.... no matter how we huff and puff......the fact is that we have been irrelevant for 10 years.

 
I have a concern that the same people who couldn't evaluate Tom Herman objectively a few years ago are again the loudest voices in the room.

I know of at least one individual who, from the start, was deeply concerned about Herman's stupefying insistence on expending his goodwill with the alumni when he just had to bring a rape apologist and a high school drug dealer onto campus. The alumni held their collective noses because we were told we had to sacrifice integrity to beat TCU and OU. The loudest voices in the room shouted down any criticism of "St. Tom the Intellect." They were wrong.

I remember at least one person who was concerned Tom Herman had an issue getting his team focused on the game at opening kickoff. While the talent was there, horrible starts against an inferior opponent (especially early in the season) cost Tom dearly. The loudest voices in the room shouted down any criticism of "St. Tom the Intellect." They were wrong.

I am very much on record as being very opposed to the now familiar argument that if UT doesn't overlook ethical and character problems the program will be incapable of defeating TCU or OU in football. I thought those in favor of ignoring warning signs were wrong a few years ago. I believe those same people are again the loudest voices in the room and pushing for "St. Urban the Innocent." I believe those people are wrong today.

TCU didn't have to dive into an ethical sewer to build a program that has seemingly broken UT athletics and driven it to desperate decisions. TCU hired an AD who had the vision to play the long game. Oh where can UT find such a proven AD to lead our program?

Urban Meyer is bad news. Very bad. I disagree with those who can't solve this problem without essentially placing UT athletics on the precipice of being a scumbag program. It is a bad lesson to teach that whenever one's intellectual abilities find their limitation, the best course of action is to act unethically. A very bad lesson.

The Urban Meyer warning signs are clear. Ignore them with an understanding doing so will carry a very dear cost.

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Randolph Duke said:
I have a concern that the same people who couldn't evaluate Tom Herman objectively a few years ago are again the loudest voices in the room.

I know of at least one individual who, from the start, was deeply concerned about Herman's stupefying insistence on expending his goodwill with the alumni when he just had to bring a rape apologist and a high school drug dealer onto campus. The alumni held their collective noses because we were told we had to sacrifice integrity to beat TCU and OU. The loudest voices in the room shouted down any criticism of "St. Tom the Intellect." They were wrong.

I remember at least one person who was concerned Tom Herman had an issue getting his team focused on the game at opening kickoff. While the talent was there, horrible starts against an inferior opponent (especially early in the season) cost Tom dearly. The loudest voices in the room shouted down any criticism of "St. Tom the Intellect." They were wrong.

I am very much on record as being very opposed to the now familiar argument that if UT doesn't overlook ethical and character problems the program will be incapable of defeating TCU or OU in football. I thought those in favor of ignoring warning signs were wrong a few years ago. I believe those same people are again the loudest voices in the room and pushing for "St. Urban the Innocent." I believe those people are wrong today.

TCU didn't have to dive into an ethical sewer to build a program that has seemingly broken UT athletics and driven it to desperate decisions. TCU hired an AD who had the vision to play the long game. Oh where can UT find such a proven AD to lead our program?

Urban Meyer is bad news. Very bad. I disagree with those who can't solve this problem without essentially placing UT athletics on the precipice of being a scumbag program. It is a bad lesson to teach that whenever one's intellectual abilities find their limitation, the best course of action is to act unethically. A very bad lesson.

The Urban Meyer warning signs are clear. Ignore them with an understanding doing so will carry a very dear cost.

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Got to admit that I like reading your posts for the humor I find in them. 

For example, you said "TCU didn't have to dive into an ethical sewer to build a program that has seemingly broken UT athletics and driven it to desperate decisions."

To quote Larry the Cable Guy, "I don't care what you say, that right there is funny".

 
Randolph Duke said:
I have a concern that the same people who couldn't evaluate Tom Herman objectively a few years ago are again the loudest voices in the room.

I know of at least one individual who, from the start, was deeply concerned about Herman's stupefying insistence on expending his goodwill with the alumni when he just had to bring a rape apologist and a high school drug dealer onto campus. The alumni held their collective noses because we were told we had to sacrifice integrity to beat TCU and OU. The loudest voices in the room shouted down any criticism of "St. Tom the Intellect." They were wrong.

I remember at least one person who was concerned Tom Herman had an issue getting his team focused on the game at opening kickoff. While the talent was there, horrible starts against an inferior opponent (especially early in the season) cost Tom dearly. The loudest voices in the room shouted down any criticism of "St. Tom the Intellect." They were wrong.

I am very much on record as being very opposed to the now familiar argument that if UT doesn't overlook ethical and character problems the program will be incapable of defeating TCU or OU in football. I thought those in favor of ignoring warning signs were wrong a few years ago. I believe those same people are again the loudest voices in the room and pushing for "St. Urban the Innocent." I believe those people are wrong today.

TCU didn't have to dive into an ethical sewer to build a program that has seemingly broken UT athletics and driven it to desperate decisions. TCU hired an AD who had the vision to play the long game. Oh where can UT find such a proven AD to lead our program?

Urban Meyer is bad news. Very bad. I disagree with those who can't solve this problem without essentially placing UT athletics on the precipice of being a scumbag program. It is a bad lesson to teach that whenever one's intellectual abilities find their limitation, the best course of action is to act unethically. A very bad lesson.

The Urban Meyer warning signs are clear. Ignore them with an understanding doing so will carry a very dear cost.

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I hate to disagree with my favorites on this board, but I think Duke is right. I hope I don't get expelled for that. ?

 
North Texas Golfer said:
I have a concern that the same people who couldn't evaluate Tom Herman objectively a few years ago are again the loudest voices in the room
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Agree. I remember the editors at IT were Tom Herman's biggest cheerleaders, especially Eric Nahlin. Ketch was doing his usual antics pushing for Tom. When Dabo Swinney offered to bring his whole staff they all ridiculed Dabo, especially the crew at IT with their condescending country club comments. Now granted, they were not the decision makers, but they used their influence as much as possible and stirred the natives (hmmm, has anything changed?). The decision makers of the Charlie Strong hire, or should I say the lack of there of, was lack of leadership. One camp you had BMDs recruiting Saban and the other camps, you had Mack Brown squatting, his leadership allowing that to happen and the president...well, I'm not sure what he was doing. In short, the whole process was dysfunctional and embarrassing. If we learned anything, let's dont repeat that again, including listening to the cheerleaders who are trying to sell subscriptions. This time around we need leadership and strategy from CDC and the president.

To make my opinion clear of Tom Herman, I am going to use a Lloyd Bentson quote that was made in a VP debate: Tom Herman, you're no Darrell Royal.

 
63_Texas_1 said:
Agree. I remember the editors at IT were Tom Herman's biggest cheerleaders, especially Eric Nahlin. Ketch was doing his usual antics pushing for Tom. When Dabo Swinney offered to bring his whole staff they all ridiculed Dabo, especially the crew at IT with their condescending country club comments. Now granted, they were not the decision makers, but they used their influence as much as possible and stirred the natives (hmmm, has anything changed?). The decision makers of the Charlie Strong hire, or should I say the lack of there of, was lack of leadership. One camp you had BMDs recruiting Saban and the other camps, you had Mack Brown squatting, his leadership allowing that to happen and the president...well, I'm not sure what he was doing. In short, the whole process was dysfunctional and embarrassing. If we learned anything, let's dont repeat that again, including listening to the cheerleaders who are trying to sell subscriptions. This time around we need leadership and strategy from CDC and the president.

To make my opinion clear of Tom Herman, I am going to use a Lloyd Bentson quote that was made in a VP debate: Tom Herman, you're no Darrell Royal.
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Wait a minute! How did you do that? You show a quote from me that is not mine. 

 
North Texas Golfer said:
Wait a minute! How did you do that? You show a quote from me that is not mine. 
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Yikes!  I'm not sure how I did that.  I remember copying a quote from Randolph Duke and hit the quote button.  Perhaps I copied the quote (from Randolph Duke) from your copied response and hit the quote button.  I'm sure it is an user error on my part.  ? LOL

 
North Texas Golfer said:
Got to admit that I like reading your posts for the humor I find in them. 

For example, you said "TCU didn't have to dive into an ethical sewer to build a program that has seemingly broken UT athletics and driven it to desperate decisions."

To quote Larry the Cable Guy, "I don't care what you say, that right there is funny".
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TcU has overlooked drug trafficking during GFP's tenure, but is thus far clear of rape charges ala Baylor and LSU. So, they've got that going for them which is nice.

 
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