Hermann needs to go

[RickyFlair]

One thing Herman has shown is his ability to be consistently inconsistent. Good programs, even in down years, are consistent. You can call it playing to the competition or playing off emotions but as Herman said himself “if our A team shows up instead of our B team we can win” (paraphrased). Good programs always have their A team show up. They may not be as good as the opponents A team each week but you know what to expect from your guys. Good coaches build a foundation, a culture of success. Herman does not have that ability. Even if we win out (won’t happen) we will start next season, and every season, back at square one with a team that randomly beats a better opponent and inexplicably loses to a worse one. In the back room there is zero support for Herman or worry that it “looks bad” to spend money after cut backs in the department. The buyout will come from outside revenue not budgeted revenue. Paying a big salary to a proven coach is a business investment with a positive return (you will make more money long term than the expenditure cost). 
If or when a quality coach is secured Herman is out. One way or another we are getting off this merry go round.  

 

[The Tinman]

One thing Herman has shown is his ability to be consistently inconsistent. Good programs, even in down years, are consistent. You can call it playing to the competition or playing off emotions but as Herman said himself “if our A team shows up instead of our B team we can win” (paraphrased). Good programs always have their A team show up. They may not be as good as the opponents A team each week but you know what to expect from your guys. Good coaches build a foundation, a culture of success. Herman does not have that ability. Even if we win out (won’t happen) we will start next season, and every season, back at square one with a team that randomly beats a better opponent and inexplicably loses to a worse one. In the back room there is zero support for Herman or worry that it “looks bad” to spend money after cut backs in the department. The buyout will come from outside revenue not budgeted revenue. Paying a big salary to a proven coach is a business investment with a positive return (you will make more money long term than the expenditure cost). 
If or when a quality coach is secured Herman is out. One way or another we are getting off this merry go round.  

You took the words right out of my mouth..agree 110%. Texas has the talent to beat anyone in the country when they bring their A game. TH problem is he never knows when its going to happen.

 

[Mitch Lovell]

One thing Herman has shown is his ability to be consistently inconsistent. Good programs, even in down years, are consistent. You can call it playing to the competition or playing off emotions but as Herman said himself “if our A team shows up instead of our B team we can win” (paraphrased). Good programs always have their A team show up. They may not be as good as the opponents A team each week but you know what to expect from your guys. Good coaches build a foundation, a culture of success. Herman does not have that ability. Even if we win out (won’t happen) we will start next season, and every season, back at square one with a team that randomly beats a better opponent and inexplicably loses to a worse one. In the back room there is zero support for Herman or worry that it “looks bad” to spend money after cut backs in the department. The buyout will come from outside revenue not budgeted revenue. Paying a big salary to a proven coach is a business investment with a positive return (you will make more money long term than the expenditure cost). 
If or when a quality coach is secured Herman is out. One way or another we are getting off this merry go round.  

Very well said, think and hope you’re right. If he’s retained they’ll lose any money they saved by bringing him back as fans will check out.

 

[dillohorn]

Tested positive for Covid this week, wouldn’t hate a Herman firing  by 5 pm today to make things better especially after some of the Urban updates yesterday...

Get well soon.

 

[Mitch Lovell]

Get well soon.

Appreciate it.

 

[longhorn_mig]

Agreed, get well soon.

 

[Baron]

Just look at Michigan and Harbaugh. That's where we're headed if changes aren't made.

 

[RunRickyRun]

Just look at Michigan and Harbaugh. That's where we're headed if changes aren't made.

Harbaugh cant even get to a conference championship game.

 

[MBHORNSFAN]

I guess IMO if you want a change, idk if you want to phrase it as rooting against Texas but you better hope against making the big 12 title game.

That won't save him.

 

[Bear19]

That won't save him.

If that’s the case he should be fired now.

 

[Eastexhorn]

I belive we are stuck with Tom for at least another year. Afraid Urban will be like Saban never happen. Texas will luck out three more wins like last two, and be embarested in ship game.

Any other coach would have won last game two chip shot FGS and a win.Good coaches take the points.

On refs. final mess up. After review TD stands. Minute laterafter rereview player was down ball on one yd. line. Who is doing the reviews?

 

[Mitch Lovell]

That won't save him.

I sure hope your right. I also hope Texas doesn’t F@#K this up with “optics” cuz if it’s not urban I really don’t know who is second and maybe texas should join the Ivy League.

 

[primal defense]

No thanks.


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[Texas2725]

Already spoke to him.. 

If I may ask, how'd the conversation go?

 

[MBHORNSFAN]

I belive we are stuck with Tom for at least another year. Afraid Urban will be like Saban never happen. Texas will luck out three more wins like last two, and be embarested in ship game.

Any other coach would have won last game two chip shot FGS and a win.Good coaches take the points.

On refs. final mess up. After review TD stands. Minute laterafter rereview player was down ball on one yd. line. Who is doing the reviews?

He has to win the Big 12 or he is gone. 

 

[DBut82]

He has to win the Big 12 or he is gone. 

Win or just make it to the dance?

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

Win or just make it to the dance?

This situation is interesting because what if Urban, CDC, and the money reach a verbal agreement behind the scenes before the Big 12 Championship? Does the offer stand if we win out? How do the BMDs define "success" this year?

A Big 12 Championship works for me, but who doesn't agree the conference is down this year? IMO, this is the worst OU team in awhile. We should win a league title this year with our supposed "talent advantage".

 

[DBut82]

This situation is interesting because what if Urban, CDC, and the money reach a verbal agreement behind the scenes before the Big 12 Championship? Does the offer stand if we win out? How do the BMDs define "success" this year?

A Big 12 Championship works for me, but who doesn't agree the conference is down this year? IMO, this is the worst OU team in awhile. We should win a league title this year with our supposed "talent advantage".

To be honest, if Urban is in play, I'd want Herman gone regardless.  Win the Big 12 an still replace him.  After 4 years it's evident what we'll get.  Could lightning strike and the planets align and we make the playoffs next year with Herman?  Sure.  But with an Urban you have to believe that you're in playoff contention every year.  I just think the outlook long term looks way better with Urban guiding this team...

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

To be honest, if Urban is in play, I'd want Herman gone regardless.  Win the Big 12 an still replace him.  After 4 years it's evident what we'll get.  Could lightning strike and the planets align and we make the playoffs next year with Herman?  Sure.  But with an Urban you have to believe that you're in playoff contention every year.  I just think the outlook long term looks way better with Urban guiding this team...

I agree, but how long should we expect Urban to coach UT with his "health issues". I'd hope to get at least 4-5 years out of him. Anything less will be disappointing and we're right back on the coaching merry-go-round. 

I have no doubts we'd be a better coached team immediately under his watch short-term, too. 

 

[DBut82]

I agree, but how long should we expect Urban to coach UT with his "health issues". I'd hope to get at least 4-5 years out of him. Anything less will be disappointing and we're right back on the coaching merry-go-round. 

I have no doubts we'd be a better coached team immediately under his watch short-term, too. 

I think 5 years would be the contract with outs for "health" but I bet we could get a solid 4 from him.  More than enough to truly establish a winning culture while "grooming" his replacement.  Sorta like the transition at OSU from Urban to Day.  But I'm still for bringing Applewhite back so what do I know? LOL!