Coaching Changes, Rumors, Misc.

[TheContractor]

Good gosh... He either hired to slow or too quickly. 

Coaches are doing coaching searches *all the time*. The idea that he didn't have an idea who he may want halfway through the season is silly. They know more than most what's going to happen after a season is done.

Ash may have wanted time to see if another HC gig came up, or if someone would money whip him... who knows. 

I didn’t mention anything about slow or fast. Good resumes don’t just fall on ur desk every time. Go out and search for the right person. He best candidate for ur job. He didn’t hire Ash mid season. U have the opportunity when ur Job is on the line, 

 and “who knows” comment is stupid. ASS U ME 

if u don’t have a problem wih the way this search was conducted, say so and shut up or add something positive to the convo 

 

[PleaseDeleteUser]

As long as I don't see guys blitz from 10-15 yds back on every 3rd down I'll be happy. that alone will help out tremendously. 

 

[Captain Hookem]

I didn’t mention anything about slow or fast. Good resumes don’t just fall on ur desk every time. Go out and search for the right person. He best candidate for ur job. He didn’t hire Ash mid season. U have the opportunity when ur Job is on the line, 

 and “who knows” comment is stupid. ASS U ME 

if u don’t have a problem wih the way this search was conducted, say so and shut up or add something positive to the convo 

Something positive to the conversation like "ass u me"? Classy... especially after making the huge assumption it was a "comfort hire".

Besides, technically what I did was "speculation". Get your insults right.

What do you think the "hiring process" for a coach is anyway. You think Herman goes out to Indeed and looks for open spots... maybe a call to ZipRecruiter?

As I pointed out in my earlier positive contribution - these coaches already know each other. The search is talking to other coaches, which they already do all year long. Past that it's just about timing, money, and opportunity.

 

[63_Texas_1]

In response to:

 I have a HUGE problem that Herman did not search for a DC. I have never been fully on the Herman train(1 foot on, 1 foot off). 2nd foot is at the edge now. This is  an unacceptable coaching search. 

Then later add:

add something positive to the convo 

If anyone wanted an example of the proverbial idiom of "the pot calling the kettle black," there it is. 

 

[drgilbert]

Seems like a solid hire. I have to trust Herman cause he is our coach next year. He should know his ass is on the line. Maybe other guys told him no and this is the best he could get. Hopefully he gets a great OC. 

 

[North Texas Golfer]

I DO NOT have a problem with the hire of Ash as DC. I have a HUGE problem that Herman did not search for a DC. I have never been fully on the Herman train(1 foot on, 1 foot off). 2nd foot is at the edge now. This is  an unacceptable coaching search. I’d this is the “search” he is doing then he might as well say, CDC, make my hires. 

Exactly how do you know that Herman did not search for a DC? Please give us real facts and not what you think or what it looks like to you. 

 

[bill_ut75]

 I have a HUGE problem that Herman did not search for a DC.

Go out and search for the right person. 

if u don’t have a problem wih the way this search was conducted, say so...

Ok… I will.
I don’t have a problem with the way this search was conducted.

Why not? I don’t have enough information to legitimately have a problem with the way this search was conducted.

I don't know:

• How CTH conducted the DC search.
  
• All the candidates CTH spoke with.
  
• If CTH did not “Go out and search for the right person.”
  
• All the individuals in CFB CTH spoke with to gather opinions (pro and con) of all possible DC candidates to ensure the best decision was being made. 
  
• If CTH settled on Ash right from the get go, but let the search run on just to give the impression that an extensive search really was being conducted, when it wasn’t. 
  

I do know:

• CTH and Ash worked together for the Ohio State 2014 National Championship season. Not a bad result. That seems like a good thing to me.
  
• This DC hire (due to recent failings) is the most important hire CTH has made as a HC.
  
• CTH’s butt is on the line. He’s got a helluva lot more riding on this hire than any of us do.
  
• CDC had to give final approval to CTH’s DC recommended hire. I personally respect and trust CDC.
  
• Neither CTH, nor CDC have lost my respect (yet) for their CFB judgement, but I do reserve the right to change my mind based on events.
  
• I don’t have a crystal ball.
  

Therefore, given what I don’t and do know, that’s why I don’t have a problem with the way this search was conducted.

I also do not know if Ash is a good DC hire for Texas.

However, I do choose to believe Ash will be a good DC hire for Texas, until events prove otherwise.

Hook ‘em 

 

[TexCoyote]

Herman might make Naivar the LB’s coach, leave Washington at CB’s, and Chris Ash DC/safeties.......and there be no other additions on defense. Just a thought. 

 

[TexExSpur]

It's not a bad hire, but comes across as a safety net type hire.  Stepping back down to DC is not for everyone.  I think both hires are essentially done and have been for several weeks.  Handshake type deals, ya know.  

Ash will be fine.  

 

[MBHORNSFAN]

OB and IT basically reporting the same thing. Herman really does not see anything wrong with the offense and is reluctant to give up full control. OB is saying do not be surprised if the OC is not a big name now. It is saying that the hold up with Harrell is Herman does not want to give up control of the offense... I predict if this is really Herman's thoughts we will be hiring a new coach in November 2020. 

 

[MBHORNSFAN]

It's not a bad hire, but comes across as a safety net type hire.  Stepping back down to DC is not for everyone.  I think both hires are essentially done and have been for several weeks.  Handshake type deals, ya know.  

Ash will be fine.  

OC is not done.. 

 

[TexExSpur]

9.95er's throwing shit at the wall... it's called hedging.

 

[zion3d]

With the search for a new DC now seemingly at an end with the announcement that Chris Ash will be the guy I am sticking to my original feeling about Graham Harrell.  

There are reports being circulated that he will likely be staying on as the OC at USC.  I'm not ready to buy into that.  Seems to me that he would want to get this announced and over with if in deed he was going to stay on with the Trojans.  The contract has been sitting out there for quite some time as contracts go and I cannot believe that it has taken this long to work out the details.  

I think that GH is still the guy that TH is pursuing and that they reached a verbal agreement on the position along with when it would be announced.  Giving GH the cover to complete his recruiting obligations for USC was probably something that GH asked TH to do.  If there is no movement within a day or two after NSD with GH then it becomes very unlikely that he will be the next OC at Texas.   

Either way this goes it has been fun trying to step into the shoes of Mensa and determine just what moves he will make.  Hmm, not sure if I am right about all of this that it makes me a smart guy or just another arrogant Pee Wee Herman. This is really, really, hard!

 

[North Texas Golfer]

OB and IT basically reporting the same thing. Herman really does not see anything wrong with the offense and is reluctant to give up full control. OB is saying do not be surprised if the OC is not a big name now. It is saying that the hold up with Harrell is Herman does not want to give up control of the offense... I predict if this is really Herman's thoughts we will be hiring a new coach in November 2020. 

OB and IT basically reporting the same thing. Herman really does not see anything wrong with the offense and is reluctant to give up full control.

Surely there is some missing context to this. It has to be somewhere in between "does not see anything wrong with the offense" and "does not want to completely change the offense". 

I don't believe for one minute that Tom does not see anything wrong with the offense nor do I believe that he has a problem with turning the control of the offense over to the right OC.

 

[MBHORNSFAN]

OB and IT basically reporting the same thing. Herman really does not see anything wrong with the offense and is reluctant to give up full control.

Surely there is some missing context to this. It has to be somewhere in between "does not see anything wrong with the offense" and "does not want to completely change the offense". 

I don't believe for one minute that Tom does not see anything wrong with the offense nor do I believe that he has a problem with turning the control of the offense over to the right OC.

247 is now reporting the same....      

 

[North Texas Golfer]

247 is now reporting the same....      

I don't know which report on OB that you are talking about. But the one I saw states that Herman does not believe that the offense played so poorly this season that it needs an overhaul and that his main goal is to find a play-caller who matches his offensive philosophies.

This, to me, is not exactly saying that Tom does not see anything wrong with his offense and is reluctant to give up full control. I can't read what's on IT and 247 so I can't speak to what they are saying. Is there more that they are saying than just this?

 

[TexExSpur]

If that's where the 9.95er's are headed in this search to be first with breaking news, GH may have reneged.  

 

[oldhorn2]

one thing about Ash.....I read that Urban said Ash was the best recruiter he ever worked with....so there is that....

 

[NEOkHorn]

So when Tom said that he wanted another voice in the offensive room so he could get out of there more and oversee the whole program what he was really saying is that he wants to hire someone that is a puppet and will do and call everything the exact same way He does, he lied and has no intention of hiring a real play caller, or the pay sites are filling in the blanks of their information on their own since the leaks are less than years past? Asking for a friend.

 

[dillohorn]

Herman better be seeing UT offensive problems. Our opponents sure as hell did.