Longhorn News/Discussion (Non-Recruiting)

[Baron]

Your precedence of 2 teams from the same conference getting in the playoffs needs a little more context.

In 2017, Alabama made the playoffs as a 1-loss non-conference champion because there were only 3 conference champion teams with 1 loss or less.

In 2021, Georgia made the playoffs as a 1-loss non-conference champion because there were only 2 conference champion teams with 1 loss or less.

In 2022, Ohio State made the playoffs as a 1-loss non-conference champion because there were only 2 conference champion teams with 1 loss or less.

In other words, no non-conference champion team has ever made the playoffs at the expense of a 1-loss conference champion. That is your true precedence.

My meaning was that the CFP committee isn't shy about putting two teams from a conference into the playoff. It's happened three out of ten times. 30%. The SEC has done it twice so that's 20%. Remember what i said was predicated on how the SEC CCG played out. So don't cherry pick.

 

[Eastexhorn]

Why Walton?

Under sized and recruited over. Then it all a guess.

 

[North Texas Golfer]

My meaning was that the CFP committee isn't shy about putting two teams from a conference into the playoff. It's happened three out of ten times. 30%. The SEC has done it twice so that's 20%. Remember what i said was predicated on how the SEC CCG played out. So don't cherry pick.

Not sure how I cherried picked anything. I merely explained why it happened the three times that it did.

 

[Baron]

Not sure how I cherried picked anything. I merely explained why it happened the three times that it did.

Ignore the cherry picking comment. I didn't mean to insult. My comments about the three times a conference got multiple entrants was a simple percentage. I now see that you were using some mental algorithm. I am not worthy.

 

[Wayne]

Yes, JJ was an exception. Switzer had some success despite himself. The list of failures is much longer than the list of successes. Meyer, Rhule, Kingsbury, etc, are recent examples of the former.

Pete Carroll has done pretty well.

 

[CorrienteKid]

Is there one after Jimmy Johnson?

Pete Carrol?

 

[Drb522]

That needs to happen tomorrow.

 

[Drb522]

Thought that’s already happened

 

[TexCoyote]

Coaches getting massive pay raises and extensions after 1 good season has been a really poor business decision more often than not recently (Jimbo, Mel Tucker, etc). Altho, when money grows on trees in the world of sports, I guess it honestly doesn't matter. The amount of money being thrown away around the country is just stupid.

Coaching contracts should absolutely be incentive based and not guaranteed. Looks like little brother learned their Jimbo lesson, as shown with the Elko contract language.

Give Sark a bump, sure, but it should 100% be performance-based.

I’m old enough to remember Mackovic won the first Big 12 over Nebraska and Deloss Dodds practically went in the locker room with a new contract and the next year we were 4-7 and Mackovic was fired. I’m sure CDC is going to take care of Sark and staff pretty handsomely.

 

[TB14]

Jimmy Johnson did fairly well and Barry Switzer road those coat tails

Also Pete Carroll and Harbaugh were great. Chip Kelly was good before the made him also GM and Bill O'Brian even had a few good years with the Texans but couldn't get over the top. But Saban, Rhule, Meyer, and Kingsbury all looked real bad. Just a few I thought of off the top of my head.

 

[Wayne]

Is there one after Jimmy Johnson?

Pete

I can make the argument Texas > Bama, Bama > Georgia if Bama wins. Thats not an assumption, thats based on head to head. Now that transitive logic you can say Texas > Georgia. For both of them to get in ahead of Texas is downright criminal. It snubs one conference and completely ignores a HEAD to HEAD.

They might do it but then but the uproar should be deafening.

… and we would have beaten Bama in Tuscaloosa and Georgia would have lost to Bama in Georgia.

 

[TFloss32]

 

[TFloss32]

In this scenario (Bama over Ga), it should be:
1. Mich
2. Texas
3. Oregon
4. Bama

Likely:
1. Mich.
2. Bama
3. Oregon
4. Texas

I just don't see Georgia dropping four spots and out of the playoff, which is why I feel a Bama victory could potentially complicate things and create a gray area where Texas doesn't want to be.

You'd have people clamoring for both Bama and Georgia to get in at that point.

FSU and Oregon losing means they're certainly eliminated, but I don't think it's clear-cut at all if Georgia loses.

I'd rather not give the committee a chance to justify Alabama leapfrogging Texas despite a head-to-head loss.

 

[TFloss32]

 

[BWilk55]

Good breakdown of the possible outcomes.

He lists how he thinks the committe would rank teams based on final record. He puts 11-1 Bama behind 11-1 Texas but as TFloss mentioned that is up for debate. He also puts 11-1 UGA and 11-1 Michigan behind Texas.

Note: FSU loss is likely more likely than he has here as his model doesn't factor in injuries.

 

[DMAC]

Note: FSU loss is likely more likely than he has here as his model doesn't factor in injuries.

I think FSU losses this weekend. If they win it will end our chances of CFP

 

[dssl]

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

We need to win and fsu needs to lose. None of the other possible outcomes matter if fsu wins. Still possible to get in, but not likely.

 

[UT1983]

Let’s remember t beat OSU first

 

[Hiwood]

We need to win and fsu needs to lose. None of the other possible outcomes matter if fsu wins. Still possible to get in, but not likely.

That's the way I see it too , if they lose there should be 4 conference champs left