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TexasFirst1

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Relax everybody!! All is well!! UT has a great football leadership tradition!!!

UT football timeline.

1971 - 1997 - Zero MNCs - 5 head coaches - 7 Conference championships

1998 - 2013 - 1 MNC - 2 conference championships

2010 - 2013 - Bill Powers and Deloss Dodds coddle Mack Brown's sensibilities for four years while Mack posts a poor record and wrecks recruiting.

2013 - Powers hires Patterson over 100 other ADs in the FBS who had more experience and qualifications.

2013 - Powers and Patterson botch the Mack Brown termination.

2013 - Powers and Patterson decide not to deal with any of of Jimmy Sexton's clients because Sexton talked to UT boosters in early 2013 about "Mack's job".

2013 - Powers and Patterson do not interview ANY tier one head football coaches before picking third tier Charlie Strong.

2013 - Strong promises to deliver a first rate coaching staff to UT.

2014 - Strong fails to convince any top tier coordinators to join his staff despite the clear need to get an OC that will excite recruits and validate his judgment.

2014 - Strong makes comfort hires of the Louisville OC and DC despite the consistently poor performance of the Louisville offense against lesser opposition, even with Bridgewater.

There is no way to spin the realities above as anything more than poor leadership, especially at the Powers and Patterson level. Better hiring alternatives have been ignored or rejected Ut at every level of this process. UT has settled for third tier hires at AD, HC and OC. Is this the optimum outcome for UT and a reason to expect above third tier performance levels on the field in the future? Are these hires a sound basis for optimism about the future or a foundation of continuing underachievement, ineptitude and wishful thinking? Do these hires maximize optimism and enthusiasm among recruits and the fan base???

These outcomes are especially disheartening because there were no limitations on resources and this was a vital crossroads for UT football. A chance to end 40+ years of mediocrity. It may miraculously work out in the end but, if it does, it will be in spite of leadership ineptitude, not because of professional leadership that made the best choices available.

Yeah, the acquiescent fans can look the other way and hope for the best and criticize anyone who cares enough to call out the amateurs of Bellmont... Clap, clap, clap.... The only people who should be happy about this feckless process are UT's adversaries.

 
So find another program to root for. It's clear you hate everything about it. You also pass off a lot of opinion as fact. Strong has not announced his staff either.

Please list the 100 AD's who should have been hired over Patterson. He was on many peoples top 5 lists during the search. You claimed he was trash on day 1. His history will be written as time goes on but 100 better choices?

Nationally the strong hire from the analysts and media has gotten very high marks by in large. Lots of people have called it a really good hire. Calling the guy 3rd tier is only opinion not fact. He hasn't even put his team on the field yet

 
Relax everybody!! All is well!! UT has a great football leadership tradition!!!
UT football timeline.

1971 - 1997 - Zero MNCs - 5 head coaches - 7 Conference championships

1998 - 2013 - 1 MNC - 2 conference championships

2010 - 2013 - Bill Powers and Deloss Dodds coddle Mack Brown's sensibilities for four years while Mack posts a poor record and wrecks recruiting.

2013 - Powers hires Patterson over 100 other ADs in the FBS who had more experience and qualifications.

2013 - Powers and Patterson botch the Mack Brown termination.

2013 - Powers and Patterson decide not to deal with any of of Jimmy Sexton's clients because Sexton talked to UT boosters in early 2013 about "Mack's job".

2013 - Powers and Patterson do not interview ANY tier one head football coaches before picking third tier Charlie Strong.

2013 - Strong promises to deliver a first rate coaching staff to UT.

2014 - Strong fails to convince any top tier coordinators to join his staff despite the clear need to get an OC that will excite recruits and validate his judgment.

2014 - Strong makes comfort hires of the Louisville OC and DC despite the consistently poor performance of the Louisville offense against lesser opposition, even with Bridgewater.

There is no way to spin the realities above as anything more than poor leadership, especially at the Powers and Patterson level. Better hiring alternatives have been ignored or rejected Ut at every level of this process. UT has settled for third tier hires at AD, HC and OC. Is this the optimum outcome for UT and a reason to expect above third tier performance levels on the field in the future? Are these hires a sound basis for optimism about the future or a foundation of continuing underachievement, ineptitude and wishful thinking? Do these hires maximize optimism and enthusiasm among recruits and the fan base???

These outcomes are especially disheartening because there were no limitations on resources and this was a vital crossroads for UT football. A chance to end 40+ years of mediocrity. It may miraculously work out in the end but, if it does, it will be in spite of leadership ineptitude, not because of professional leadership that made the best choices available.

Yeah, the acquiescent fans can look the other way and hope for the best and criticize anyone who cares enough to call out the amateurs of Bellmont... Clap, clap, clap.... The only people who should be happy about this feckless process are UT's adversaries.
Sometimes the way we post comes off as asserting fact. I have that problem myself. The result is that we ruffle the feathers of a lot of people.

So, I will ask you - what part of your post is actually fact and what part is personal conclusions unsupported by fact?

 
It's not possible this guy is not a troll.

I think there are a lot on this board. Let's not feed them.

 
TexasFirst1,

You've certainly stepped out on thin ice, panning the way things have been handled to date. The PP boys have pulled a Frank Sinatra and done it their way. Suffice it to say your opinion should be respected. I don't think you necessarily need to go find another team. Unless, of course, you want to. I don't think there is anything wrong with offering your take on things. But I guess most on this board want to move forward with full support for Chuck and his decisions. I guess we'll see how it all plays out. FWIW

 
TexasFirst1, You've certainly stepped out on thin ice, panning the way things have been handled to date. The PP boys have pulled a Frank Sinatra and done it their way. Suffice it to say your opinion should be respected. I don't think you necessarily need to go find another team. Unless, of course, you want to. I don't think there is anything wrong with offering your take on things. But I guess most on this board want to move forward with full support for Chuck and his decisions. I guess we'll see how it all plays out. FWIW

There is a difference between simply offering an opinion and ripping the program.

If you wanna rip, you wanna dish it out, man up and take some back.

 
Sometimes you can't make some people happy... but I'm. . Happy ... Happy... Happy!

Another note... Some people ain't happy unless they have something to b###h about..

 
Relax everybody!! All is well!! UT has a great football leadership tradition!!!
UT football timeline.

1971 - 1997 - Zero MNCs - 5 head coaches - 7 Conference championships

1998 - 2013 - 1 MNC - 2 conference championships

2010 - 2013 - Bill Powers and Deloss Dodds coddle Mack Brown's sensibilities for four years while Mack posts a poor record and wrecks recruiting.

2013 - Powers hires Patterson over 100 other ADs in the FBS who had more experience and qualifications.

2013 - Powers and Patterson botch the Mack Brown termination.

2013 - Powers and Patterson decide not to deal with any of of Jimmy Sexton's clients because Sexton talked to UT boosters in early 2013 about "Mack's job".

2013 - Powers and Patterson do not interview ANY tier one head football coaches before picking third tier Charlie Strong.

2013 - Strong promises to deliver a first rate coaching staff to UT.

2014 - Strong fails to convince any top tier coordinators to join his staff despite the clear need to get an OC that will excite recruits and validate his judgment.

2014 - Strong makes comfort hires of the Louisville OC and DC despite the consistently poor performance of the Louisville offense against lesser opposition, even with Bridgewater.

There is no way to spin the realities above as anything more than poor leadership, especially at the Powers and Patterson level. Better hiring alternatives have been ignored or rejected Ut at every level of this process. UT has settled for third tier hires at AD, HC and OC. Is this the optimum outcome for UT and a reason to expect above third tier performance levels on the field in the future? Are these hires a sound basis for optimism about the future or a foundation of continuing underachievement, ineptitude and wishful thinking? Do these hires maximize optimism and enthusiasm among recruits and the fan base???

These outcomes are especially disheartening because there were no limitations on resources and this was a vital crossroads for UT football. A chance to end 40+ years of mediocrity. It may miraculously work out in the end but, if it does, it will be in spite of leadership ineptitude, not because of professional leadership that made the best choices available.

Yeah, the acquiescent fans can look the other way and hope for the best and criticize anyone who cares enough to call out the amateurs of Bellmont... Clap, clap, clap.... The only people who should be happy about this feckless process are UT's adversaries.
This is pathetic. Find another team.

 
This guy has done nothing but complain about the process and accuse people of settling. Relax man, let's see what happens in September. That will be proof good or bad.

 
Relax everybody!! All is well!! UT has a great football leadership tradition!!!
UT football timeline.

1971 - 1997 - Zero MNCs - 5 head coaches - 7 Conference championships

1998 - 2013 - 1 MNC - 2 conference championships

2010 - 2013 - Bill Powers and Deloss Dodds coddle Mack Brown's sensibilities for four years while Mack posts a poor record and wrecks recruiting.

2013 - Powers hires Patterson over 100 other ADs in the FBS who had more experience and qualifications.

2013 - Powers and Patterson botch the Mack Brown termination.

2013 - Powers and Patterson decide not to deal with any of of Jimmy Sexton's clients because Sexton talked to UT boosters in early 2013 about "Mack's job".

2013 - Powers and Patterson do not interview ANY tier one head football coaches before picking third tier Charlie Strong.

2013 - Strong promises to deliver a first rate coaching staff to UT.

2014 - Strong fails to convince any top tier coordinators to join his staff despite the clear need to get an OC that will excite recruits and validate his judgment.

2014 - Strong makes comfort hires of the Louisville OC and DC despite the consistently poor performance of the Louisville offense against lesser opposition, even with Bridgewater.

There is no way to spin the realities above as anything more than poor leadership, especially at the Powers and Patterson level. Better hiring alternatives have been ignored or rejected Ut at every level of this process. UT has settled for third tier hires at AD, HC and OC. Is this the optimum outcome for UT and a reason to expect above third tier performance levels on the field in the future? Are these hires a sound basis for optimism about the future or a foundation of continuing underachievement, ineptitude and wishful thinking? Do these hires maximize optimism and enthusiasm among recruits and the fan base???

These outcomes are especially disheartening because there were no limitations on resources and this was a vital crossroads for UT football. A chance to end 40+ years of mediocrity. It may miraculously work out in the end but, if it does, it will be in spite of leadership ineptitude, not because of professional leadership that made the best choices available.

Yeah, the acquiescent fans can look the other way and hope for the best and criticize anyone who cares enough to call out the amateurs of Bellmont... Clap, clap, clap.... The only people who should be happy about this feckless process are UT's adversaries.
More conclusions not supported by facts. But, hey, that's what should be expected on message boards.

 
And please, someone please show me where anyone with the University of Texas has said Strong has unlimited funds to hire assistants and that he is going to assemble an all-star staff. Thrown around all over the boards but have not seen any credible source from UT verifying this.

 
And please, someone please show me where anyone with the University of Texas has said Strong has unlimited funds to hire assistants and that he is going to assemble an all-star staff. Thrown around all over the boards but have not seen any credible source from UT verifying this.
BINGO!!!

I asked about where is he quoted as saying an "all star" crew...just bc the insiders on all these msg boards said that's what he sold Patterson on, does not mean it's true...they also said NS, Gruden, Peter Pan, The Cookie Monster, and so on...And Patterson stated before he hired strong that he wasn't breaking the bank, that probably applies to all areas not just the HC and football program. Give Coach Strong the opportunity to put his staff together, because he's more skilled at putting one together (Talking those of you who are the troll masters, God of Trolls, Sir Trolls alot.)

 
Remember them they'll jump on the band wagon as soon as TEXAStrong starts winning.

 
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