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Laughable. A&M is 1-3 against ranked teams, and they were blown out in 3 of those. You can't punish Baylor for their nonconference schedule and not punish A&M who played SMU, Rice, Lamar and ULM.
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meanwhile, bama jumped by tcu. repeat....bama jumped by tcu. that leaves 1 team from the sec in the top 4. somebody's gonna have to crank up the bias machine or at least give the committee their marching orders.
That is pretty remarkable. Last week, I was somewhat concerned that the Big 12 might get squeezed. But can you imagine that you would be saying "TCU just bumped Alabama out of the playoff" as of August? TCU?
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I'm not going to get into a debate, BUT there is no denying where the majority of talent drafted in the NFL comes from. There is a reason for that. The SEC is the dominant land for overall talent ridden high schools. The SEC has undeniably had more kids drafted in the NFL. Here is something that I found to be enlightening;
"The Southeastern Conference dominates college football to such an extent that a quarter of the new talent coming into the NFL this year comes from that conference.
Of the 254 players drafted over the last three days, 63 of them came from SEC schools. That’s more than double the number of draft picks that any other college conference produced. The ACC was second with 31 picks, while the Pac-12 was third with 28 picks.
Although an ACC school, Florida State, led all colleges with 11 players drafted, the other four schools in the Top 5 all came from the SEC: LSU And Alabama had nine each, and Georgia and Florida had eight each. Another SEC school, South Carolina, tied Rutgers for sixth place with seven players drafted."
Some empirical data from the 2014 draft "This is a look at how the SEC performed in the 2014 NFL Draft:
» The SEC had 49 players selected, most among the conferences. It was the eighth year in a row the SEC had the most draftees.
» Every SEC school had at least one player selected, led by LSU with nine. That was the most of any school.
» There were 11 first-rounders, most among the conferences.
» Position of interest: The SEC had eight wide receivers selected, the most of any league, along with seven defensive ends and six offensive tackles. In all, the SEC had 11 offensive linemen and 10 defensive linemen picked, the most of any league. The flipside: There were just three corners drafted, and two went in the seventh round.
School-by-school look at the SEC in the draft in the 2000s:
Alabama» 72 draftees, 18 first-rounders (most recent LB C.J. Mosley* in 2014) | Alabama draft history
The buzz: Alabama has had multiple first-round picks in each of the past five drafts.
Arkansas» 45 draftees, six first-rounders (most recent RB Darren McFadden* in 2008) | Arkansas draft history
The buzz: Since McFadden and fellow RB Felix Joneswere first-rounders in 2008, no Hogs player has been drafted earlier than the third round.
Auburn» 48 draftees, 10 first-rounders (most recent OT Greg Robinson* in 2014) | Auburn draft history
The buzz: Auburn had four draftees in 2014, double the number in the past two drafts combined.
Florida» 77 draftees, 16 first-rounders (most recent DT Dominique Easley in 2014) | Florida draft history
The buzz: Easley was the seventh Florida defender to go in the first round in the past eight drafts.
Georgia» 85 draftees, 13 first-rounders (most recent LB Jarvis Jones* in 2013) | Georgia draft history
The buzz: Georgia had two draftees in 2014, the fewest for the Bulldogs since 1991, when they also had two.
Kentucky» 23 draftees, one first-rounder (most recent DT Dewayne Robertson in 2003) | Kentucky draft history
The buzz: Kentucky has had one player (Randall Cobb) selected earlier than the third round since Robertson went in the first round in 2003.
LSU» 84 draftees, 15 first-rounders (most recent WR Odell Beckham* in 2014) | LSU draft history
The buzz: LSU has had nine players selected in each of the past two drafts, and 11 of the 18 have gone earlier than the fourth round.
Mississippi» 29 draftees, six first-rounders (most recent OT Michael Oher in 2009) | Mississippi draft history
The buzz: Mississippi has had two players selected in the past four drafts combined.
Mississippi State» 29 draftees, two first-rounders (most recent DT Fletcher Cox in 2012) | Mississippi State draft history
The buzz: G Gabe Jackson was the lone Bulldogs player taken in the 2014 draft and was just the fourth offensive player from Mississippi State selected in the past eight drafts.
Missouri» 29 draftees, seven first-rounders (most recent DT Sheldon Richardson in 2013) |Missouri draft history
The buzz: Mizzou had four players drafted in 2014, just three fewer than in the previous four drafts combined.
South Carolina» 47 draftees, seven first-rounders (most recent DE Jadeveon Clowney in 2014) |South Carolina draft history
The buzz: Clowney was the first South Carolina player to go No. 1 overall in the draft since RB George Rogers in 1981.
Tennessee» 70 draftees, 14 first-rounders (most recent OT Ja'Wuan James in 2014) | Tennessee draft history
The buzz: James was the first Vols offensive lineman to go in the first round since 1991, when Vols OTsCharles McRae and Antone Davis were the No. 7 and No. 8 picks.
Texas A&M» 46 draftees, eight first-rounders (most recent OT Jake Matthews* in 2014) | Texas A&M draft history
The buzz: Texas A&M had three players drafted in 2014, and all three went in the first round, including two in the top seven.
Vanderbilt» 23 draftees, two first-rounders (most recent OT Chris Williams in 2008) | Vanderbilt draft history
The buzz: Vandy has had at least two players selected in each of the past three drafts; that hasn't happened at the school since 1957-59.
"The Southeastern Conference dominates college football to such an extent that a quarter of the new talent coming into the NFL this year comes from that conference.
Of the 254 players drafted over the last three days, 63 of them came from SEC schools. That’s more than double the number of draft picks that any other college conference produced. The ACC was second with 31 picks, while the Pac-12 was third with 28 picks.
Although an ACC school, Florida State, led all colleges with 11 players drafted, the other four schools in the Top 5 all came from the SEC: LSU And Alabama had nine each, and Georgia and Florida had eight each. Another SEC school, South Carolina, tied Rutgers for sixth place with seven players drafted."
Some empirical data from the 2014 draft "This is a look at how the SEC performed in the 2014 NFL Draft:
» The SEC had 49 players selected, most among the conferences. It was the eighth year in a row the SEC had the most draftees.
» Every SEC school had at least one player selected, led by LSU with nine. That was the most of any school.
» There were 11 first-rounders, most among the conferences.
» Position of interest: The SEC had eight wide receivers selected, the most of any league, along with seven defensive ends and six offensive tackles. In all, the SEC had 11 offensive linemen and 10 defensive linemen picked, the most of any league. The flipside: There were just three corners drafted, and two went in the seventh round.
School-by-school look at the SEC in the draft in the 2000s:
Alabama» 72 draftees, 18 first-rounders (most recent LB C.J. Mosley* in 2014) | Alabama draft history
The buzz: Alabama has had multiple first-round picks in each of the past five drafts.
Arkansas» 45 draftees, six first-rounders (most recent RB Darren McFadden* in 2008) | Arkansas draft history
The buzz: Since McFadden and fellow RB Felix Joneswere first-rounders in 2008, no Hogs player has been drafted earlier than the third round.
Auburn» 48 draftees, 10 first-rounders (most recent OT Greg Robinson* in 2014) | Auburn draft history
The buzz: Auburn had four draftees in 2014, double the number in the past two drafts combined.
Florida» 77 draftees, 16 first-rounders (most recent DT Dominique Easley in 2014) | Florida draft history
The buzz: Easley was the seventh Florida defender to go in the first round in the past eight drafts.
Georgia» 85 draftees, 13 first-rounders (most recent LB Jarvis Jones* in 2013) | Georgia draft history
The buzz: Georgia had two draftees in 2014, the fewest for the Bulldogs since 1991, when they also had two.
Kentucky» 23 draftees, one first-rounder (most recent DT Dewayne Robertson in 2003) | Kentucky draft history
The buzz: Kentucky has had one player (Randall Cobb) selected earlier than the third round since Robertson went in the first round in 2003.
LSU» 84 draftees, 15 first-rounders (most recent WR Odell Beckham* in 2014) | LSU draft history
The buzz: LSU has had nine players selected in each of the past two drafts, and 11 of the 18 have gone earlier than the fourth round.
Mississippi» 29 draftees, six first-rounders (most recent OT Michael Oher in 2009) | Mississippi draft history
The buzz: Mississippi has had two players selected in the past four drafts combined.
Mississippi State» 29 draftees, two first-rounders (most recent DT Fletcher Cox in 2012) | Mississippi State draft history
The buzz: G Gabe Jackson was the lone Bulldogs player taken in the 2014 draft and was just the fourth offensive player from Mississippi State selected in the past eight drafts.
Missouri» 29 draftees, seven first-rounders (most recent DT Sheldon Richardson in 2013) |Missouri draft history
The buzz: Mizzou had four players drafted in 2014, just three fewer than in the previous four drafts combined.
South Carolina» 47 draftees, seven first-rounders (most recent DE Jadeveon Clowney in 2014) |South Carolina draft history
The buzz: Clowney was the first South Carolina player to go No. 1 overall in the draft since RB George Rogers in 1981.
Tennessee» 70 draftees, 14 first-rounders (most recent OT Ja'Wuan James in 2014) | Tennessee draft history
The buzz: James was the first Vols offensive lineman to go in the first round since 1991, when Vols OTsCharles McRae and Antone Davis were the No. 7 and No. 8 picks.
Texas A&M» 46 draftees, eight first-rounders (most recent OT Jake Matthews* in 2014) | Texas A&M draft history
The buzz: Texas A&M had three players drafted in 2014, and all three went in the first round, including two in the top seven.
Vanderbilt» 23 draftees, two first-rounders (most recent OT Chris Williams in 2008) | Vanderbilt draft history
The buzz: Vandy has had at least two players selected in each of the past three drafts; that hasn't happened at the school since 1957-59.
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good info Shannon. i mentioned this point in the 4th post of this interminable thread, but the tin-foil-hat guys only want to focus on college game day airtime. not stuff like nfl draft choices and championships.
they have been strangely quite since tcu vaulted bama. their spin of these facts ought to be entertaining.
they have been strangely quite since tcu vaulted bama. their spin of these facts ought to be entertaining.
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LOL...an "interminable thread"?
We're focused on College Gameday airtime because that's the premise of the thread - SEC Bias. The bigger question is why are you here, STP? To whine about our whining? That's awesome!
http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2013-09-18/nfl-players-state-by-state-breakdown-california-florida-louisiana-texas-south-ca
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In part yes, I'm whining about the whining.
Beat em on the field. Problem solved. Otherwise it just sounds whiny. Nobody likes that. Except some of y'all I suppose to feel better about something. Not sure what.
Beat em on the field. Problem solved. Otherwise it just sounds whiny. Nobody likes that. Except some of y'all I suppose to feel better about something. Not sure what.
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That's also part of the discussion - the SEC's weak OOC scheduling.
Not sure what your posts have contributed to this thread, since I doubt you've even read any of the articles attached. You certainly haven't convinced any of us that SEC bias doesn't exist. If the topic doesn't interest you, logically, it makes sense to avoid it.
Does it make you feel better about yourself to be this thread's wet blanket? Just curious
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aggie is the "Best 3 Loss Team in the Country" which is akin to being the tallest midget
http://ow.ly/i/7ybOP
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Yes, it is good information. However, it is entirely possibly and downright likely that the NFL is greatly influenced by the media and ESPN. I mean, if you don't pick who they think you should pick, months of ridicule rain down on you and if it doesn't pan out, you're probably not working long. And how many of those SEC draft picks came from Texas? That's why this was once a fluctuating thing among conferences.
Nevertheless, you have one little item that is of interest. It's like you're trying to throw a party and only have one beer to your name. The condescending tone is a backfire, again.
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Gee, why don't we all just pick out some school somewhere, draw some stupid line in the sand and whine about not playing them until every one calls Earl or Ralph. Playing or not playing aggy or an SEC team doesn't solve a problem. The strength of schedule thing is an SEC problem, not a Texas problem.
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My biggest gripe is the whole conference takes credit for what a smaller portion has achieved. If it comes down to UT beats TCU and the big 12 doesn't have a rep in the final 4 I'm happy with that. Team before conference. Not sure all sec fans feel that way about their team.
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Not to mention a UGA loss to unranked Florida.
I'm trying to figure out a scenario that will force the CFB Playoff committee to include only ONE team from the SEC. But, they're still trying to stack the deck with three Top 10 SEC West teams; Miss St, Bama, & Auburn. What a f'n joke
Not to mention a UGA loss to unranked Florida.
I'm trying to figure out a scenario that will force the CFB Playoff committee to include only ONE team from the SEC. But, they're still trying to stack the deck with three Top 10 SEC West teams; Miss St, Bama, & Auburn. What a f'n joke
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