Saban is not coming to Texas and im ok with that:

[texasdobbs]

Saban is one the top coaches in the country no doubt, however would he fit in Texas culture and is he too old to start at a new program?

For me I think that we need a younger coach. Here is few to consider: Smart, Franklin, Strong to name a few. I believe that Smart would be the top choice.

What you say?

 

[RealtorHorn]

Two things right off the top:

1) Don't confuse age with years spent on Earth.

Saban and Mack are very close in time away from the womb but are years apart in age. Frankly, Saban is much younger than Mack.

2) The rise if Baylor and Aggy needs to be countered, immediately, with a "big splash" hire. We have fallen too far behind to hire an up-and-comer. Muschamp in 2010 would have been great but I'm not sure a 2nd tier coach is what we need RIGHT NOW.

Baylor and Aggy are taking recruits away from UT. Forget a big splash; we need a sonic BOOM to start turning heads and swinging momentum. The hiring of Saban would change things immediately. Recruits would prbly still play this "wait and see" with UT if the next coach was anyone but a big hire. We can't afford that anymore. We are Texas.

Edit: And for the record, Briles is now my second guy. He's worthy of UT and we can't let him go to aggy.

 

[DocHorn]

If you want a splash guy and can't get Saban, go get Gruden, I know it's risky but it could be an absolute home run over the next 6 to 8 yrs

 

[Chitownhorn]

I think Gruden has the potential of being a great recruiter. Put in a recruits living room and he probably closes the deal. The big question is, does he want to leave a great job that pays him very well for the riggers that are college football recruiting and coaching. I just don't know.

 

[Chitownhorn]

Two things right off the top:
1) Don't confuse age with years spent on Earth.

Saban and Mack are very close in time away from the womb but are years apart in age. Frankly, Saban is much younger than Mack.

2) The rise if Baylor and Aggy needs to be countered, immediately, with a "big splash" hire. We have fallen too far behind to hire an up-and-comer. Muschamp in 2010 would have been great but I'm not sure a 2nd tier coach is what we need RIGHT NOW.

Baylor and Aggy are taking recruits away from UT. Forget a big splash; we need a sonic BOOM to start turning heads and swinging momentum. The hiring of Saban would change things immediately. Recruits would prbly still play this "wait and see" with UT if the next coach was anyone but a big hire. We can't afford that anymore. We are Texas.

Edit: And for the record, Briles is now my second guy. He's worthy of UT and we can't let him go to aggy.

I agree We need to hire a coach that no one can match and will cause all recruits to sit up and take notice. I'm also beginning to come around on Briles. He has shown he can recruit at Baylor, just imagine what he can do with the UT brand behind him with his deep Texas connections.

 

[Bevo11]

Two things right off the top:
1) Don't confuse age with years spent on Earth.

Saban and Mack are very close in time away from the womb but are years apart in age. Frankly, Saban is much younger than Mack.

2) The rise if Baylor and Aggy needs to be countered, immediately, with a "big splash" hire. We have fallen too far behind to hire an up-and-comer. Muschamp in 2010 would have been great but I'm not sure a 2nd tier coach is what we need RIGHT NOW.

Baylor and Aggy are taking recruits away from UT. Forget a big splash; we need a sonic BOOM to start turning heads and swinging momentum. The hiring of Saban would change things immediately. Recruits would prbly still play this "wait and see" with UT if the next coach was anyone but a big hire. We can't afford that anymore. We are Texas.

Edit: And for the record, Briles is now my second guy. He's worthy of UT and we can't let him go to aggy.

New here, but totally agree with your assessment. Well said.

 

[Coal Harbour]

I couldn't disagree more with the take on Baylor at this point. The Bears are the flavor of the month; remember when TCU and Gary Patterson were getting all the love? Baylor started winning recruiting battles, not b/c Briles is such a wonderful recruiter, but the rise of Baylor coinciding with the demise of UT on the field the last couple of years has hurt and Briles has used the instability of the UT coaching staff to his advantage when recruiting guys like Billings.

If Texas was winning and competing for conference championships, Baylor would simply be, well, Baylor. Once a new HC is named at UT, the recuiting advantage that Baylor has right now will disappear. Also, can we please wait until Baylor actually wins something before placing Briles on the shoulders of all HS coaches in the state?

A&M is the worry b/c they have the SEC nugget in recruiting. That should be where the focus is at and really can't generate a strategy until the new coaching staff arrives.

My point is that be careful bestowing greatness on an individual until all polls are closed and votes counted. I think Texas will land on its feet heading into next year and no matter what the win/loss record, my hope is that there is at least a direction and I hope that Briles isn't apart of that.

 

[RealtorHorn]

I couldn't disagree more with the take on Baylor at this point. The Bears are the flavor of the month; remember when TCU and Gary Patterson were getting all the love? Baylor started winning recruiting battles, not b/c Briles is such a wonderful recruiter, but the rise of Baylor coinciding with the demise of UT on the field the last couple of years has hurt and Briles has used the instability of the UT coaching staff to his advantage when recruiting guys like Billings.
If Texas was winning and competing for conference championships, Baylor would simply be, well, Baylor. Once a new HC is named at UT, the recuiting advantage that Baylor has right now will disappear. Also, can we please wait until Baylor actually wins something before placing Briles on the shoulders of all HS coaches in the state?

A&M is the worry b/c they have the SEC nugget in recruiting. That should be where the focus is at and really can't generate a strategy until the new coaching staff arrives.

My point is that be careful bestowing greatness on an individual until all polls are closed and votes counted. I think Texas will land on its feet heading into next year and no matter what the win/loss record, my hope is that there is at least a direction and I hope that Briles isn't apart of that.

1) Sounds like you actually DO agree with my take on "the rise" of Baylor...regardless of WHY, it's happening. Also, in regards to TCU/GP... Big12 > MWC. They have not been getting the same love since they started playing in a real conference.

2) Briles can flat-out recruit, but again, it sounds like you agree with my take on countering Baylor's momentum.

3) aNm is a worry bc of SEC, and they aren't leaving that conference any time soon. They hit gold with Sumlin/Manziel but this would continue with another homerun HC hire...if Sumlin left. They have studs on that team...and commitments. Saban, and a similar big-splash hire will somewhat counter aggy...but a complete counter would be to join the SEC... if it came down to that. Maybe going independent, depending on the permanent schools on the schedule (aggy, OU, ND, etc.)

4) Again, Briles can flat-out recruit and he has done more with less in the last 4-5 years.

 

[Topstarr]

we need Saban and he is a young 62

 

[Lord Vader]

Two things right off the top:
1) Don't confuse age with years spent on Earth.

Saban and Mack are very close in time away from the womb but are years apart in age. Frankly, Saban is much younger than Mack.

2) The rise if Baylor and Aggy needs to be countered, immediately, with a "big splash" hire. We have fallen too far behind to hire an up-and-comer. Muschamp in 2010 would have been great but I'm not sure a 2nd tier coach is what we need RIGHT NOW.

Baylor and Aggy are taking recruits away from UT. Forget a big splash; we need a sonic BOOM to start turning heads and swinging momentum. The hiring of Saban would change things immediately. Recruits would prbly still play this "wait and see" with UT if the next coach was anyone but a big hire. We can't afford that anymore. We are Texas.

Edit: And for the record, Briles is now my second guy. He's worthy of UT and we can't let him go to aggy.

Solid, solid post.

 

[monarch]

Two things right off the top:
1) Don't confuse age with years spent on Earth.

Saban and Mack are very close in time away from the womb but are years apart in age. Frankly, Saban is much younger than Mack.

2) The rise if Baylor and Aggy needs to be countered, immediately, with a "big splash" hire. We have fallen too far behind to hire an up-and-comer. Muschamp in 2010 would have been great but I'm not sure a 2nd tier coach is what we need RIGHT NOW.

Baylor and Aggy are taking recruits away from UT. Forget a big splash; we need a sonic BOOM to start turning heads and swinging momentum. The hiring of Saban would change things immediately. Recruits would prbly still play this "wait and see" with UT if the next coach was anyone but a big hire. We can't afford that anymore. We are Texas.

Edit: And for the record, Briles is now my second guy. He's worthy of UT and we can't let him go to aggy.

RealtorHorn, I love you guy, but I think that your rhetoric regarding "nick roll/tide saban" is a bit over the top! First of all, if you may recall, it was during one of NS initial press conferences, that he delivered the "pronouncement" regarding his advanced age of "62". I for one, thought that he was in his later 50's. (for his age, he certainly looks viable to me)

Second, I can certainly understand your impassioned statements regarding our prospective recruits... but have you somehow forgotten, that most of our "recruits" already have it in their "hearts" to commit to Texas. IMO, most if not all of them, are not necessarily waiting around as per the outcome of just "who" our prospective head coach is... I honestly feel that our prospective recruits, are actually contemplating upon whether or not if the current coaching staff shall involve them within a system that shall utilize their athletic abilities. These recruits along with their families, just want to make certain that they may receive unparalleled development... which shall ultimately assist them upon "draft day" entering the NFL...

(LET'S PLAY THE BIG WHAT IF) ....what if NS decides to "arbitrarily" throw a press conference, and pronounce to the entire nation, that "HE SHALL NOT LEAVE ALABAMA TO VENTURE TO TEXAS...PERIOD!) ....what happens then? (there shall not be an immediate eclipse of the moon...the republicans shall continue to lie to the masses....North Korea, shall continue upon it's quest to build nukes...) I'm sure that you get the picture...

...life goes on...

TEXAS, shall indeed land it's 1st tier coach among the many "resumes" that shall undoubtably arrive in masses. And trust me, at the very end of the day... the "sunset" shall indeed be "burnt orange".

 

[texasdobbs]

Just a question? Since when does Texas predicate its decisions around aggieville... screw the Aggies!!

 

[RealtorHorn]

Monarch-

-Saban has a good five years left, at least.

-UT can't survive on diehard Texas recruits. And how much longer will Texas be the favorite in the state? A lot of elem/midd school kids are wearing maroon these days.

-Did you just call Obama a Republican?

-Life certainly will go on but down what path? Saban isn't end-all/be-all but from reports, we are putting in 80% of our chips on the Saban river and hoping he doesn't "flop".

 

[RealtorHorn]

Just a question? Since when does Texas predicate its decisions around aggieville... screw the Aggies!!

Since aNm went to the SEC...and we continued stagnancy. I would venture to say that the brass at UT have an eye on aggy.

 

[austinite]

Saban is one the top coaches in the country no doubt, however would he fit in Texas culture and is he too old to start at a new program? For me I think that we need a younger coach. Here is few to consider: Smart, Franklin, Strong to name a few. I believe that Smart would be the top choice.

What you say?

I don't know exactly what you mean by "Texas culture" - do you mean "mediocrity"? "lack of desire to excel"? "low expectations but high pay"?

If you want to win, then hire whoever that can get the job done. And if that means changing Texas culture, YOU CHANGE IT.

 

[Lord Vader]

Since aNm went to the SEC...and we continued stagnancy. I would venture to say that the brass at UT have an eye on aggy.

Since they started kicking our ass for top recruits and they won a Heisman with a charismatic drunk.

 

[ATX89]

Sorry but I don't see Gruden doing well with a college program whatsoever. Didn't think he was that good of an NFL coach either and he kind of crapped all over Chris Simms while in Tampa as well.

 

[RealtorHorn]

Sorry but I don't see Gruden doing well with a college program whatsoever. Didn't think he was that good of an NFL coach either and he kind of crapped all over Chris Simms while in Tampa as well.

This.

There are much better options.

 

[UTK66]

Sorry but I don't see Gruden doing well with a college program whatsoever. Didn't think he was that good of an NFL coach either and he kind of crapped all over Chris Simms while in Tampa as well.

I think Gruden would be a monumental fail as our next coach, whenever we get our next coach.