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[Hooked_up]

Why is this douchebag aggy still allowed to post on this board? McP I think everyone now realizes its way past his bedtime. Put him to sleep

 

[Hooked_up]

Count me as one that is not impressed with either of the defensive recruits from Warren Easton that we have offered. I'm not sure I would trust someone's opinions on recruiting when they get signing and committing confused. As for the Strong fit comment, there is very little quickness displayed on the 8 minute junior film highlight on HUDL. I'm not so much baffled at the offer as the timing, guys like this very rarely get offered by a program like Texas in February but I guess Strong wanted one in the bag before moving on to bigger fish. I see this guy as a Tyrone Taylor type for ya'll. Which two games did you see?

Waste of an inch on my iPad.

 

[acropora]

Waste of an inch on my iPad.

Seriously, and I mean this without any ill will, why is everyone in such an uproar about a poster's opinion. He respectively gave his opinion. I personally trust Charlie Strong's evaluation over a random internet poster but part of having a discussion board is to ....wait for it....discuss things. As long as it's a civil discussion, I don't understand why anyone would need to get worked up.

Our Aggie visitor has a viewpoint about our newest recruit which isn't glowing. Big F&*king Deal. He didn't say that our recruit sucked or that the Aggies only go for blue chips or anything else. He simply stated that this is a guy that he'd expect us to go for later in the year.

Personally, I disagree. I think this is an athletic guy with a frame that will hold more good weight who is already a good technician in the run game and played at a decent level of competition. At this point, Strong isn't really putting out any offers to guys that he considers "marginal" or "projects".

I do think there is a fallacy among internet posters, myself included, to overly inflate players committed to your program and denigrate players that are on an opposing team. It's also common for people with no stake in the game to throw around uniformed opinions as if it's the gospel truth. Ultimately, Charlie Strong will be judged on how many games he wins. I think he's a smart guy with extensive experience coaching and developing players, particularly on the defensive side. Until he proves incapable of rising to the challenge, I'm going to assume his offers are to players he wants.

Anyways, this is getting long winded. Ultimately, Agmaniacmike seems like a decent guy, the kind of guy I'd be happy to have a drink with and talk football with. In terms of the responses, I'd say he's been much more civil and even keeled then some of the responses. I assume most of the folks on here are happy to see you post your opinion, even if it's wrong , and that it's just a vocal minority that are getting worked up about something that's not a big deal.

 

[Hooked_up]

Seriously, and I mean this without any ill will, why is everyone in such an uproar about a poster's opinion. He respectively gave his opinion. I personally trust Charlie Strong's evaluation over a random internet poster but part of having a discussion board is to ....wait for it....discuss things. As long as it's a civil discussion, I don't understand why anyone would need to get worked up.
Our Aggie visitor has a viewpoint about our newest recruit which isn't glowing. Big F&*king Deal. He didn't say that our recruit sucked or that the Aggies only go for blue chips or anything else. He simply stated that this is a guy that he'd expect us to go for later in the year.

Personally, I disagree. I think this is an athletic guy with a frame that will hold more good weight who is already a good technician in the run game and played at a decent level of competition. At this point, Strong isn't really putting out any offers to guys that he considers "marginal" or "projects".

I do think there is a fallacy among internet posters, myself included, to overly inflate players committed to your program and denigrate players that are on an opposing team. It's also common for people with no stake in the game to throw around uniformed opinions as if it's the gospel truth. Ultimately, Charlie Strong will be judged on how many games he wins. I think he's a smart guy with extensive experience coaching and developing players, particularly on the defensive side. Until he proves incapable of rising to the challenge, I'm going to assume his offers are to players he wants.

Anyways, this is getting long winded. Ultimately, Agmaniacmike seems like a decent guy, the kind of guy I'd be happy to have a drink with and talk football with. In terms of the responses, I'd say he's been much more civil and even keeled then some of the responses. I assume most of the folks on here are happy to see you post your opinion, even if it's wrong , and that it's just a vocal minority that are getting worked up about something that's not a big deal.

You spent way too much time on that. I have a feeling he will be run off eventually, I'm not sure what the hold up is.

Just saw you are in Virginia. That explains a lot. No offense, but you aren't in Texas guy. Different around here when it comes to the relationship between Texas fans and ags

 

[Bevo11]

Please don't take this as me bashing Texas. Your program is much better than offering guys like this in February of their junior year.

And you guys just took the hyphenated named guy from Louisiana and you are saying this?

Looks like another 7th place sec finish for you is assured.

 

[bear211989]

give it a couple months. sure this guy will get an Alabama offer soon then LSU, etc. Sione T got one from both and well he doesn't quite have the same potential this guy does. (probably gonna say Sione T only got it due to his brother huh? let me kill that one, he still got the offer)

 

[Agmaniacmike]

Great post acropora. armadillo slim I prefaced my statement because half of these posters go insane and get their panties in a wad if I say anything negative about Texas (been pretty rare). Everybody who thinks I am trying to denigrate Texas need to look at my post history. As I have said before, I will give an honest review of these recruits (Majors, Freeman, Omenihu, etc.) and will provide a further review if ya'll ask me to elaborate. For all these guys that want no discussion and me to pat each other on the back I will have a glowing review for Deshon Elliot once he wraps his recruitment up soon (heavy Texas lean). As to get this back on track what does Hornsports think his final playing weight will be and to go along with that is he a linebacker or DE?

 

[LonghornDog]

DeShon Elliot will decide soon, right?

 

[86MEHorn]

You spent way too much time on that. I have a feeling he will be run off eventually, I'm not sure what the hold up is.
Just saw you are in Virginia. That explains a lot. No offense, but you aren't in Texas guy. Different around here when it comes to the relationship between Texas fans and ags

Lighten up Francis. Calling Ag posters "douchebags" and asking McP to ban. Maybe acropora is a Horn that moved to Virginia...it happens. This site tends to be more civil...not TexAgs, or Shaggy Bevo.

 

[acropora]

You spent way too much time on that. I have a feeling he will be run off eventually, I'm not sure what the hold up is.
Just saw you are in Virginia. That explains a lot. No offense, but you aren't in Texas guy. Different around here when it comes to the relationship between Texas fans and ags

You're reaching dude. Grew up in Austin. Went to UT for undergrad and med school. I understand what ags are generally like but I also know that not every Aggie is a jerk and not every Longhorn is someone is I'd want to hang out with.

Not sure what your deal is....

Anyways, back on topic. I see this kid at 250ish and playing end. I think he's a guy that could carry enough weight to be a good strongside DE in a four man front or play DE in a 3 man front. His lateral quickness and change of direction doesn't seem suited to playing OLB imo.

 

[BevoBlake]

I personally feel like everyone needs to relax a little. Agmaniacmike is free to share and state his opinion. And everyone else is free to disagree with it. I don't feel like he's been disingenuous in the least and I don't feel he says stuff just to get a rise out of Texas fans. This site isn't an Aggie Free Zone and it shouldn't be. We have LSU Fans, Baylor Fans and West Virginia Fans. Why not add Aggies to the mix if they can post responsibly? While there has most certainly been an Aggie Troll or two, I don't feel like Agmaniacmike is one of them. Does he have his criticisms of Texas? Yes. Are they always valid? That's up to you decide. But so long as he posts those criticisms politely and responsibly, I don't see a problem with it. He's been self-deprecating when it comes to A&M a time or two that I've seen as well.

That's just my personal opinion. Don't let the Aggie logo fool you into thinking they're all up for tomfoolery.

 

[Hooked_up]

You're reaching dude. Grew up in Austin. Went to UT for undergrad and med school. I understand what ags are generally like but I also know that not every Aggie is a jerk and not every Longhorn is someone is I'd want to hang out with.
Not sure what your deal is....

Anyways, back on topic. I see this kid at 250ish and playing end. I think he's a guy that could carry enough weight to be a good strongside DE in a four man front or play DE in a 3 man front. His lateral quickness and change of direction doesn't seem suited to playing OLB imo.

My deal as I've pointed out on the reg: This is a Texas board! Hard for you to comprehend?

 

[86MEHorn]

^^

This site isn't an Aggie Free Zone and it shouldn't be.

Does not appear to be a Shaggy Free Zone either...

 

[Hooked_up]

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Does not appear to be a Shaggy Free Zone either...

If you are referring to me, you would be mistaken. I'm an ORANGEBLOODS and IT member and I know some of the mods here from those forums are just as bothered by the ags presence as I am.

It's just a matter of time...

 

[fixxxer832001]

Aggy takes passive aggressive shot- normal.

Horn says kick him off the board - normal.

The only thing out of place are long write ups by fellow horns sucking off the aggy in defense. Fix yourself!

 

[utisdabomb12]

He's been offered by Arizona State and Mississippi State today, with a bunch of other interest coming from some bigger schools.

 

[Brasky]

Here's the deal. Nobody cares if Ags post here. Prop Joe is famously even keel from other Horn boards. It's when they say things like offering the 2nd rated DE in Texas is beneath the school that they deserve all of the push back that they get. It's absolutely deserved. End of discussion. Should he be banned? No way. Please not. This isn't Texags. Should he be called out for a stupid comment? Yup.

 

[Agmaniacmike]

Lots of angry people about my observations about this guy when Jeff Howe had the same exact critiques as I other than my statement that I wouldn't offer if I was Texas. (would be unprofessional for him to say this given his position with recruits). As for the #2 player in the state stuff, that is the type of evaluation that got Mack in trouble in the first place, looking at lists based largely off of websites that have a tendency to cater to bigger schools with fanbases that follow recruiting. Look at the lists for safeties in the state, Larry Pryor is near the top (#1 or #2) and hardly has any film at the position, but the Texas and A&M interest is the reason for his consideration near the top. Same goes for Stidham, he blew up once A&M, Texas, and Bama offered despite never playing a down of high school QB, even at the 3A level. I trust ranking services less and less as the years go by, that's why I try to do my own evals with what limited info is out there (5-10 minute HUDL films, stats, and combine/camp measurables) and try not to get my hopes up based on rankings that are heavily weighted on subs for a site.

 

[DukeHorn]

But that's my problem with your analysis. You're an amateur Aggie on a Texas board who is dinging a defensive coach with two National Championship rings and a DL coach with at least 3 rings (I think) for deciding to offer him. Seriously, as this point, I'm going to give you any credence or credibility? Why? Plus no one is saying he's the No. 2 overall guy in the state. He may be the no. 2 DE in the state in a weak class.

And frankly, your "analysis" is piss poor because you don't even address the fact that Texas will probably have to take 4 DEs this year so why not grab one now. With 4 guys to recruit, you're realistically not going to take 4 out of the top 15 DEs in the nation (not even close). I'd be happy with one guy in the top ten, 2 more between 11-30 and one sleeper (based on recruiting services that we don't necessarily trust). Frankly, where we definitely can't be in recruiting DEs is waiting on two DE commitments on Signing Day like we waited on Ford and Nelson this month. That would be a disaster if we only get two guys. Context my dear aggie, context.

So yeah, we can chortle about Mack's recruiting analysis the past few years but I haven't seen anyone say that Strong can't analyze defensive guys. I'm not getting my hopes up because Bobby says he's the no. 2 DE guy in the state (though I like Bobby and when I lived in Austin, got to use his season tixs). I'm basing this on Strong and Rumph's track records.

 

[Epictetus]

I am reasonable, I question the evals of guys in recruiting. You will see me on recruiting threads quite a bit because I enjoy following it and feel like my evals are solid and aren't biased like most sites. I plan on releasing a state top 100 sometime in the spring. If any of the mods have a problem with my negatives on a player please let me know and I will stop posting them. BTW, everybody loves it when I heap any praise on Buck Majors and Ed Freeman, but can't handle it when I think poorly of another prospect.
Positives: Uses length well; Smart player-always has eyes towards the ball, decent gap read; Size- looks like a bigger Derrick Roberson; Hints of athleticism-jumping towards ballcarrier, violent hits?

Negatives: Slow and lumbering; Strength is lacking; Lean and vertical leverage (plays high); Hand placement and block shedding; Little to no explosion off the ball.

Basically, looks like Tarzan plays like Jane.

Grade: Mid 3-star, bottom end top 10 DE in state on average years (prob. top 5 this year thus far)

The word-smithing of that, and the build toward the snappy punchy pro-style summation should land you a paid position on any of the blog board/forums. As to the eval, the mulligan I give to Strong and staff is that ole what you see that the eye can't see thang. They must see a potential and the fact they know what they can do with it.
As to missed evals, up or down, A&M got the last laugh on everyone in terms of Manziel. Then there's the story behind JJ Watt of the Texans. Says Wiki, "Regarded as a two-star recruit by Rivals.com, Watt was neither ranked among the top tight end nor defensive end prospects in his class." And... "[at Wisconsin] After being redshirted in 2008, Watt started all 13 games at defensive end in 2009. He finished the season with 44 tackles and four sacks. In the 2010 season, Watt finished the regular season with 59 tackles, seven sacks, two fumble recoveries, and an interception. Watt was the 2010 recipient of the Lott Trophy and was a finalist for the Ted Hendricks Award."

All that as a 2-star who played one year at Central Michigan before transferring to Wisconsin. I think Manziel was a 3-star. Who set SEC offensive records. And won a Heisman.

Who knew!

(whatever Agmaniacmike's views are, his writing beats much of the Statesman)