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[hornsups]

You made that association with the song. You seem to have a double standard which you unabashedly use when it suits your argument. Another thing, Saturday when I said ya'll you immediately said "what do you mean ya'll", yet since then you have used "us" and "we" numerous times. Any explanation as to why? Another double standard?

What association did I make with the song?? Please show me that. Yeah I you said y’all. And you’re response was those protesting. And again I was lumped into a y’all I wasn’t in. That’s problematic. Us/We is used when I’m talking about something when there’s a large % of African Americans shown to support or have that view.  

 

[hornsups]

Didnt you just call Gundy a racist because of an OAN t shirt?  Im confused

Umm no I didn’t. Please show me where I did.. 

 

[hornsups]

It's not about your race, my friend. Its about hysterical people who happen to be black, white and all other colors who are tearing this nation apart over something that happened in a Minnesota city.

There are just as many Black people criticizing this movement as there are supporting it, perhaps more. An interview with an elderly black man cost a journalist his job last week. He dared print "why is it okay for a black man to kill another black man? But not okay if a white cop kills a black man? So many more of our people die at the hands of their own brothers."

He was factually correct. The numbers aren't even close. But he lost his job because this seems to be more about emotion than it does facts or truth.

Otherwise, amend the group's name to "Black Lives Matter Only When a Cop Takes It"

You’re just making shit up now. More people are against the protest?? That’s a flat lie. You don’t hear about people trying to fight black on black crime because you’re not there. You’re in your apartment across from 20. You never responded to that post. I was ready to show you’re lack of knowledge of Oak Cliff more. Oh well. 

 

[TexCoyote]

If you don't think Biden is racist after his association with known racists James O' Eastland, Strom Thurmond and Robert Byrd, who was an actual Klan member then how can you consider the "Eyes" racist with it's tenuous connection to racism?

Kamala Harris bashed the hell out of him for being a racist on national television. Left him speechless/stuttering, but now she wants to be the running mate and when he can’t make it for 6 months and they put him on medical leave,  abracadabra she’s the president. It’s magic. Everyone on that debate stage was calling him racist until Bernie was going to get the nomination and they had to team up with the safest and all got behind Biden. Same as in 2016. But darn they were all behind Blasey Ford to against a guy that had been a federal judge for a long time. #Metoo was everywhere. Run Kavanaugh out of town now, but they got verified proof against Biden sexually harassing Tara Reade and many more and nobody’s heard one damn thing from any of them. Not one damn person would speak up. They’re a freaking joke and anyone being honest with their self would see it. It two sets of rules in society nowadays. Good luck with Biden. 

 

[DMAC]

Please tell me what percent the African American unemployment rate lowered under Trump. The percent under Trump. You can’t say what the overall rate is unless you’re gonna give Obama credit because you know it doesn’t reset after someone new enters office.

Here is the Black American unemployment rate by year.





Year


Jan


Feb


Mar


Apr


May


Jun


Jul


Aug


Sep


Oct


Nov


Dec






2010


16.5


16.1


16.8


16.6


15.5


15.2


15.6


15.9


16.0


15.6


16.2


15.5




2011


15.8


15.5


15.8


16.5


16.3


16.2


15.9


16.4


15.9


14.6


15.6


15.4




2012


13.6


14.0


14.0


13.3


13.5


14.5


14.2


13.8


13.6


14.1


13.3


14.0




2013


13.7


13.8


13.0


13.3


13.4


14.2


12.6


12.8


13.0


12.8


12.3


11.9




2014


12.1


11.8


12.1


11.6


11.4


11.0


11.6


11.4


11.0


10.6


10.9


10.6




2015


10.3


10.1


9.9


9.7


10.3


9.7


9.1


9.4


9.3


9.0


9.4


8.5




2016


8.7


8.5


8.9


8.8


8.2


8.8


8.4


8.0


8.5


8.4


8.1


7.9




2017


7.5


7.9


7.9


7.9


7.7


7.1


7.4


7.7


7.2


7.4


7.4


6.7




2018


7.5


6.7


6.8


6.4


5.9


6.5


6.6


6.3


6.2


6.3


6.1


6.6




2019


6.8


6.9


6.6


6.6


6.2


6.0


5.9


5.4


5.5


5.5


5.6


5.9




2020


6.0


5.8


6.7


16.7


16.8


 


 


 


 


 


 


 

 

[hornsups]

I don’t think black Americans are dumb and you trying to put words in our mouth is insulting. I think a lot of black Americans are like my in-laws. They voted Democrat their whole lives and believe every negative thing said about republicans. I think a lot of Americans, black , white and everyone in between are misinformed. Some of y’all still the the parties switched and no matter how much evidence provided you won’t believe. 

Ok you’re insulted I put words in your mouth. Yet you’re telling me we are misinformed?? We’ve believed these lies about Republicans for decades now. So if we have believed that Democrats are our best option for decades and we are mistaken. There has to be something wrong with us if we’ve still not changed our mind. I mean that’s like 50 years. That’s a long time to be misinformed and duped. Something has to be wrong with us.  Or maybe we know which party actually has our backs. ?

 

[hornsups]

Kamala Harris bashed the hell out of him for being a racist on national television. Left him speechless/stuttering, but now she wants to be the running mate and when he can’t make it for 6 months and they put him on medical leave,  abracadabra she’s the president. It’s magic. Everyone on that debate stage was calling him racist until Bernie was going to get the nomination and they had to team up with the safest and all got behind Biden. Same as in 2016. But darn they were all behind Blasey Ford to against a guy that had been a federal judge for a long time. #Metoo was everywhere. Run Kavanaugh out of town now, but they got verified proof against Biden sexually harassing Tara Reade and many more and nobody’s heard one damn thing from any of them. Not one damn person would speak up. They’re a freaking joke and anyone being honest with their self would see it. It two sets of rules in society nowadays. Good luck with Biden. 

Kamala didn’t call him a racist. But ok if you want to believe her talking about busing was calling Biden a racists and we should take that as gospel. She has called Trump a racist. So I guess you have believe that as well. Tara Reade was discredited in so many ways. So much so her lawyer dropped her.  It keep believing the echo chamber you live in. 

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Ok you’re insulted I put words in your mouth. Yet you’re telling me we are misinformed?? We’ve believed these lies about Republicans for decades now. So if we have believed that Democrats are our best option for decades and we are mistaken. There has to be something wrong with us if we’ve still not changed our mind. I mean that’s like 50 years. That’s a long time to be misinformed and duped. Something has to be wrong with us.  Or maybe we know which party actually has our backs. ?

Its not that you haven't changed your mind. It's why you stick with a party/canddiate with such a historic racist past. Who would have thought the party of the KKK would dominate the black vote while the party that freed slaves gets the criticism and conspiracy theories?

You saw the words from Biden. Yet, you'll go vote for him. Meanwhile, others who have racists pasts won't be forgiven. So you would at least have to explain to yourself why you would contradict your own words and vote for the racist old white guy.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Kamala didn’t call him a racist. But ok if you want to believe her talking about busing was calling Biden a racists and we should take that as gospel. She has called Trump a racist. So I guess you have believe that as well. Tara Reade was discredited in so many ways. So much so her lawyer dropped her.  It keep believing the echo chamber you live in. 

From the New York Times:

"


What happened

• About an hour into the debate held June 27, Ms. Harris, a black former prosecutor, leapt into the cross-talk with a request to speak “on the issue of race.” She then trained her attention on Mr. Biden, and after making clear that she did not believe he was a racist, proceeded to sharply criticize him for having made “very hurtful” comments about having worked with two segregationist senators. 
  
• Ms. Harris then also recalled Mr. Biden’s opposition to school busing in the 1970s and opened up about her own history. “There was a little girl in California who was a part of the second class to integrate her public schools and she was bused to school every day,” she said. “And that little girl was me.”
  
• Mr. Biden called her remarks “a mischaracterization of my position across the board.” Moments later, he added: “I did not oppose busing in America,” Mr. Biden said. “What I opposed is busing ordered by the Department of Education.” 
  
• In reality, Mr. Biden was a leading opponent of busing in the Senate during the 1970s and 1980s, and his opposition went beyond the federal government’s role in the practice."
  
  https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/31/us/politics/kamala-harris-biden-busing.html
  

 

[hornsups]

Here is the Black American unemployment rate by year.





Year


Jan


Feb


Mar


Apr


May


Jun


Jul


Aug


Sep


Oct


Nov


Dec






2010


16.5


16.1


16.8


16.6


15.5


15.2


15.6


15.9


16.0


15.6


16.2


15.5




2011


15.8


15.5


15.8


16.5


16.3


16.2


15.9


16.4


15.9


14.6


15.6


15.4




2012


13.6


14.0


14.0


13.3


13.5


14.5


14.2


13.8


13.6


14.1


13.3


14.0




2013


13.7


13.8


13.0


13.3


13.4


14.2


12.6


12.8


13.0


12.8


12.3


11.9




2014


12.1


11.8


12.1


11.6


11.4


11.0


11.6


11.4


11.0


10.6


10.9


10.6




2015


10.3


10.1


9.9


9.7


10.3


9.7


9.1


9.4


9.3


9.0


9.4


8.5




2016


8.7


8.5


8.9


8.8


8.2


8.8


8.4


8.0


8.5


8.4


8.1


7.9




2017


7.5


7.9


7.9


7.9


7.7


7.1


7.4


7.7


7.2


7.4


7.4


6.7




2018


7.5


6.7


6.8


6.4


5.9


6.5


6.6


6.3


6.2


6.3


6.1


6.6




2019


6.8


6.9


6.6


6.6


6.2


6.0


5.9


5.4


5.5


5.5


5.6


5.9




2020


6.0


5.8


6.7


16.7


16.8


 


 


 


 


 


 


 

Might wanna post a better graph or something. So African American unemployment was 16.8 when Obama took office. It was 7.5 when he left. It was 5.5 at its lowest for Trump. See how big of a difference that is and how Trump can’t take the credit. Oh and it’s shoot back up in April takes to bad management of a pandemic. Let me see if I can do this in a way some can understand. Alabama keeps winning and appearing in NC games. The SEC wins a lot of bowls. aggy barley wins their bowl game against Tech. Now aggy gets on twitter to talk about dominate the SEC is. So do we just say yeah,  aggy is right, they have the right to beat their chest. I would think we would point out that the other teams are dominating and aggy are riding coattails. 

 

[Sirhornsalot]

You’re just making shit up now. More people are against the protest?? That’s a flat lie. You don’t hear about people trying to fight black on black crime because you’re not there. You’re in your apartment across from 20. You never responded to that post. I was ready to show you’re lack of knowledge of Oak Cliff more. Oh well. 

No, I'm really not. You have a few thousand doing marches. Meanwhile, your population reaches 45 million. I look around, I don't see what you're pretending to see. Much of your crowds are filled with whites anyway.

I don't say things I can't back up. Call it something engrained in me when I ran a news desk. So ease up with the emotion and have a simple discussion.

You're wasting your time with trying to "prove" I don't know SOC. And it's rather strange you would embark on that, given my personal experiences there and living on its back door.

Yes, I could see David W. White High School from my apartment. Across the highway on the DeSoto side is another DISD school, a junior high. I'm not sure why you think that's worth lying about, but thats your issue, not mine.

I'm neither a liar nor a racist. Thats twice now you're resorting to name calling. Why do that? You're not the only black guy here and nobody is attacking you personally in any way.

If facts mean nothing to you, then just say so and I'll leave this alone. 

 

[TexCoyote]

From the New York Times:

"


What happened

• About an hour into the debate held June 27, Ms. Harris, a black former prosecutor, leapt into the cross-talk with a request to speak “on the issue of race.” She then trained her attention on Mr. Biden, and after making clear that she did not believe he was a racist, proceeded to sharply criticize him for having made “very hurtful” comments about having worked with two segregationist senators. 
  
• Ms. Harris then also recalled Mr. Biden’s opposition to school busing in the 1970s and opened up about her own history. “There was a little girl in California who was a part of the second class to integrate her public schools and she was bused to school every day,” she said. “And that little girl was me.”
  
• Mr. Biden called her remarks “a mischaracterization of my position across the board.” Moments later, he added: “I did not oppose busing in America,” Mr. Biden said. “What I opposed is busing ordered by the Department of Education.” 
  
• In reality, Mr. Biden was a leading opponent of busing in the Senate during the 1970s and 1980s, and his opposition went beyond the federal government’s role in the practice."
  
  https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/31/us/politics/kamala-harris-biden-busing.html
  

No SHA Hornsup said it didn’t happen so it’s a fact but everybody else word is a fairytale opinion. This is why we can’t have conversation in this country. Some people won’t truly listen to the other sides point of view. I’ve watched Hornsup bash people on here for two or three days and he’s always right and everyone is is wrong or whatever is said isn’t good enough. I’m cool with DButs because he’s been on here a long time talks alot of good football and isn’t so damn combative. Thanks and Hook’em 

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Might wanna post a better graph or something. So African American unemployment was 16.8 when Obama took office. It was 7.5 when he left. It was 5.5 at its lowest for Trump. See how big of a difference that is and how Trump can’t take the credit. Oh and it’s shoot back up in April takes to bad management of a pandemic. Let me see if I can do this in a way some can understand. Alabama keeps winning and appearing in NC games. The SEC wins a lot of bowls. aggy barley wins their bowl game against Tech. Now aggy gets on twitter to talk about dominate the SEC is. So do we just say yeah,  aggy is right, they have the right to beat their chest. I would think we would point out that the other teams are dominating and aggy are riding coattails. 

Obama inherited a recession. His recovery was the slowest and lowest in history, so there wasn't much hope in doing better than 7.5%

Trump eliminated a lot of restrictions, EO's, and regulations Obama had implemented and immediately things began to change. Not just for the black, but for everyone.

While you whiz past the 5.5 mark, you fail to notice thats the best number black Americans have ever experienced. You might pause to wonder why, at least. 

 

[hornsups]

Its not that you haven't changed your mind. It's why you stick with a party/canddiate with such a historic racist past. Who would have thought the party of the KKK would dominate the black vote while the party that freed slaves gets the criticism and conspiracy theories?

You saw the words from Biden. Yet, you'll go vote for him. Meanwhile, others who have racists pasts won't be forgiven. So you would at least have to explain to yourself why you would contradict your own words and vote for the racist old white guy.

I think I just explained, Biden has shown he is a friend to my community. I don’t know that those racists who have statues showed any remorse or any good deeds toward African Americans. So there you go. The party of the KKK who elected the first black president. Selected  the first African American to the SCOTUS.  The party who freed the slaves yet they pushed a birther conspiracy, they allowed Steven King to stay in their party until last year. I mean it’s almost as though the ideologies shifted.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

I think I just explained, Biden has shown he is a friend to my community. I don’t know that those racists who have statues showed any remorse or any good deeds toward African Americans. So there you go. The party of the KKK who elected the first black president. Selected  the first African American to the SCOTUS.  The party who freed the slaves yet they pushed a birther conspiracy, they allowed Steven King to stay in their party until last year. I mean it’s almost as though the ideologies shifted.

OMG, he AUTHORED the Crime Bill of 1994 – the one that put blacks in prison at record numbers. Trump eliminated that upon taking office.

But Trump is the racist and Biden is the friend.

You're a piece of work

 

[drgilbert]

Ok you’re insulted I put words in your mouth. Yet you’re telling me we are misinformed?? We’ve believed these lies about Republicans for decades now. So if we have believed that Democrats are our best option for decades and we are mistaken. There has to be something wrong with us if we’ve still not changed our mind. I mean that’s like 50 years. That’s a long time to be misinformed and duped. Something has to be wrong with us.  Or maybe we know which party actually has our backs. ?

Again, it’s not just black Americans being duped and misinformed. Did you miss the part about my in-laws voting D their whole lives, and my father in law was one of the smartest men I’ve ever met. Even smart people can duped, white and black. You’ve been dumbed by Biden, he has been associated with known KKK and yet he’s not racist. You view is jaded and you won’t allow any amount of evidence to change it. Anyone voting for Biden and asking for the Eyes to be removed is a hypocrite. 

 

[Sirhornsalot]

No SHA Hornsup said it didn’t happen so it’s a fact but everybody else word is a fairytale opinion. This is why we can’t have conversation in this country. Some people won’t truly listen to the other sides point of view. I’ve watched Hornsup bash people on here for two or three days and he’s always right and everyone is is wrong or whatever is said isn’t good enough. I’m cool with DButs because he’s been on here a long time talks alot of good football and isn’t so damn combative. Thanks and Hook’em 

That about sums this up.

 

[drgilbert]

Here’s Joe

https://www.npr.org/2020/05/22/861007175/biden-pulls-back-on-cavalier-remarks-about-black-voters

 

[hornsups]

Again, it’s not just black Americans being duped and misinformed. Did you miss the part about my in-laws voting D their whole lives, and my father in law was one of the smartest men I’ve ever met. Even smart people can duped, white and black. You’ve been dumbed by Biden, he has been associated with known KKK and yet he’s not racist. You view is jaded and you won’t allow any amount of evidence to change it. Anyone voting for Biden and asking for the Eyes to be removed is a hypocrite. 

Freudian slip. I love it. Again telling black people they are a hypocrite for voting for someone they feel best represents them but also wanting to have something they may view was racists. But ok. I guess you will still plenty of hypocrites. 

 

[drgilbert]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bidens-history-of-controversial-racial-comments.amp