Longhorn News/Discussion (Non-Recruiting)

[83Dee]

There has been discussion on number of stars players has.

TCU had 17 4 star or better players on last seasons team Texas had 59 4 star or better. Very big difference.

If there’s one thing Texas has proven over the past 10+ years, it’s that 4&5 stars aren’t immune to getting whipped by 3 stars.

I think Sark & staff will develop the talent they recruit much better than we’ve seen in our recent past.  

 

[Utjb1]

If there’s one thing Texas has proven over the past 10+ years, it’s that 4&5 stars aren’t immune to getting whipped by 3 stars.

I think Sark & staff will develop the talent they recruit much better than we’ve seen in our recent past.  

TRUE! Given the recent great recruiting classes we need to now stop clamoring for more transfer portal takes and try clamoring for Sark and company to simply develop and coach the players we currently have on campus. Allow those players to grow and get better year over year and become veterans, rather than steal reps from them via transfer portal players 

 

[Sunkist]

If there’s one thing Texas has proven over the past 10+ years, it’s that 4&5 stars aren’t immune to getting whipped by 3 stars.

I think Sark & staff will develop the talent they recruit much better than we’ve seen in our recent past.  

Top 25 classes every year since 2011 many top 10 and some top 5 classes.   Usually a top 2 class in the big 12.

it’s unfortunately not just stars and avg stars, it’s that no coach put together the right combo of stars and executed on that plan and development.

Sark has shown he’s putting the right pieces together.  Now develop everyone, make them execute the game plan properly, block, tackle, hustle every play and we might have a great team the next 3-5 years based on current roster.

 

[Soldierhorn]

Seriously?  It looked to me like he sliced them up surgically!

well, yeah. The receivers ran wide open most of the game, almost all the passes were short & medium range (21 comp for 289 yds), and Ewers was hardly pressed at all by 0U rushers. One of the few times Ewers was pressured, he threw one of the worst interceptions I've seen in a long time.  In his mind, the probably thought he still had the arm strength to throw it out of bounds but it wasnt close.  The yds after catch were huge in this game including the throws to the RBs. One of the worst secondary's in all of FBS simply could not match up with the athletism of the Longhorn backs/WRs and Ewers just needed to throw catchable balls, which he did

Added comment: If Card had started the 0U game instead of Ewers, would the results have been much different? I dont think so. The receivers would have still been open and almost all the throws were within Card's throwing range.  Ewers made throws in the Bama game that Card simply would not have attempted much less made, IMO.

 

[Eastexhorn]

3 to 5 years no way will Horns fans or powers to be will wait that long. Better have a double digit win season this year. 

I for one do not see that much improvement so far.

 

[NEOkHorn]

I read it as we may have a great team “for” the next 3-5 years based on the current roster. Not that we will have to wait 3-5 years for a great team. Might have misread it but I think we are a lot closer than 3-5 years away from a run of great teams. Then again, the koolaid is the River that runs through it for my house.??

 

[Eastexhorn]

To me the next 3-5 years is 2024 through 2028 so waiting or not it is in the future.

 

[Billybass]

The classes in the past may have been ranked high, but the Oline hauls were putrid. Especially in Herman’s last year.

Dont understand how a coach can think he is gonna win with a lousy Oline. Baffling. 
Easy to see the team is a better team than it has been. 
looks like they finally have some competers.

 

[dssl]

The classes in the past may have been ranked high, but the Oline hauls were putrid. Especially in Herman’s last year.

Dont understand how a coach can think he is gonna win with a lousy Oline. Baffling. 
Easy to see the team is a better team than it has been. 
looks like they finally have some competers.

All coaches, and most fans understand the importance of the Oline, and also the Dline.

Herman's problem wasn't that he didn't go after top shelf Oline recruits, it was that his staff was not able to land those prized recruits, or adequately develop the guys they did get. 

Obviously Brockmeyer hasn't lived up to his recruiting ranking, but him being a top oline recruit and a TX legacy and going to Alabama says it all. We were just not viewed as a good place for an Oline recruit with serious NFL aspirations to go. 

Obviously Sark being able to land Flood was huge. The extra Oline NIL didn't hurt either. 

 

[NEOkHorn]

To me the next 3-5 years is 2024 through 2028 so waiting or not it is in the future.

I’m pretty sure 2023 falls in the next 3 year period.?

 

[Billybass]

All coaches, and most fans understand the importance of the Oline, and also the Dline.

Herman's problem wasn't that he didn't go after top shelf Oline recruits, it was that his staff was not able to land those prized recruits, or adequately develop the guys they did get. 

Obviously Brockmeyer hasn't lived up to his recruiting ranking, but him being a top oline recruit and a TX legacy and going to Alabama says it all. We were just not viewed as a good place for an Oline recruit with serious NFL aspirations to go. 

Obviously Sark being able to land Flood was huge. The extra Oline NIL didn't hurt either. 

Longhorns recruiting class Oline

2020.    3   3*     1  4*     4 total

2021     2   3*     0  4*     2 total

Those recruiting classes should not be considered good classes

 

[dssl]

Longhorns recruiting class Oline

2020.    3   3*     1  4*     4 total

2021     2   3*     0  4*     2 total

Those recruiting classes should not be considered good classes

Nobody paying attention though they were good. The reason they weren't good wasn't for lack of trying. 

 

[Eastexhorn]

I’m pretty sure 2023 falls in the next 3 year period.?

2023 football season yes 2023 year no. 

 

[NEOkHorn]

2023 football season yes 2023 year no. 

Touche’

 

[Sunkist]

3 to 5 years no way will Horns fans or powers to be will wait that long. Better have a double digit win season next year. 

I for one do not see that much improvement so far.

It means the team will be great FOR 3-5 years not in 3-5 years. 

 

[Eastexhorn]

It means the team will be great FOR 3-5 years not in 3-5 years. 

Hope so sorry for misunderstanding.

 

[Steelhammer]

If there’s one thing Texas has proven over the past 10+ years, it’s that 4&5 stars aren’t immune to getting whipped by 3 stars.

I think Sark & staff will develop the talent they recruit much better than we’ve seen in our recent past.  

We can only hope. I want Sark to succeed  but am not sure. He showed lot stubbornness. 

 

[Billybass]

Nobody paying attention though they were good. The reason they weren't good wasn't for lack of trying. 

I agree. They were trying.
But the fact remains they did not recruit Oline successfully.
With the school’s capabilities and influence it is hard to understand why they were consistently not successful.

The recruiting services gave them high ratings most years, but it was smoke and mirrors because of putrid Oline recruiting.
The  line was not good when Sark took over. It’s young now, but it’s better than it has been in a long time.

 

[BWilk55]

it is hard to understand why they were consistently not successful.

Part of this was probably that Hand was not a great OL coach and people knew it. I remember when we hired him, the Auburn fans were not one bit upset. Now, you have to take that with a grain of salt but it is a good thing to pay attention to when hiring new coaches. 

 

[Soldierhorn]

I agree. They were trying.
But the fact remains they did not recruit Oline successfully.
With the school’s capabilities and influence it is hard to understand why they were consistently not successful.

The recruiting services gave them high ratings most years, but it was smoke and mirrors because of putrid Oline recruiting.
The  line was not good when Sark took over. It’s young now, but it’s better than it has been in a long time.

A close look shows that Texas has been bad at OL recruiting/development going through the Mack Brown years, except for the years leading up to the 2005 NC. The awesome 2005 OL/DLs were had more to do with the assistants he had that did the recruiting/development.  If OL were a Mack Brown priority, he would have been more consistent in his OL recruiting/development over the years.  2001-2003 are arguably Mack's best OL recruiting years and those years had quite a few crossover players vital to the NC run of 2005:

2001 Johnathan Scott recruited DL; started at OT in 2005; drafted in 2006
2001 Will Allen recruited OT; started at OG in 2005 
2001 Mike Garcia depth chart at OG in 2005
2002 Justin Blalock recruited 5* OG; started at OT in 2005; drafted in 2007
2002 Kasey Studdard recruited 3* DE; started at OG in 2005; drafted in 2007
2002 Lyle Sendlein recruited as 3* DE/DT; started at OC in 2005; UFA OC
2002 Neale Tweedie recruited as 4* OG/DE; #2 TE in 2005
2003 Tony Hills recruited as 5* TE; backup OT in 2005; drafted OT in 2008  
2003 Dallas Griffin recruited 3* OG; backup OC in 2005

This requires talent & development that I havent seen since then, including the rest of Mack's career.  Had Mack made the OL & DLs a priority, I'm confident he would have had at least one more championship & possibly two, esp 2008 & 2009. 

2008-2018 was a 9 yr drought of Longhorn OL being drafted - none in a 9 yr period. And, it was even longer if you go by recruited class. 2003 was the last class that resulted in a drafted OL (Tony Hills 2008) until 2015 landed 3*OT Connor Williams (drafted in 2018). 11 of those 12 recruited non-drafted OL classes were Mack Brown recruited classes (have to include 2014 since Strong just signed Mack's  three 3* OL commitments)

By contrast, it's too early to tell but it looks like Sark putting back to back OL classes that could have several players drafted.