Longhorn News/Discussion (Non-Recruiting)

[zion3d]

Sark has plenty of Goodwill built up, and plenty of money. He has time to do it his way. Be patient, in 6-10 years you’ll see it pay off. Better right than rushed. 
 Just like Jimbo knows a 6 game 50 year record losing streak is temporary but necessary pain to get things going the right direction. 
 The people in charge didn’t get there by being stupid. The common man fails to grasp the master plan. 

6-10 is that a sentence that all the fans have to serve?  Lol. What about LSU or Tennessee it sure seems they got on the winning track after a year or two.

 

[zion3d]

6-10 is that a sentence that all the fans have to serve?  Lol. What about LSU or Tennessee it sure seems they got on the winning track after a year or two.

I get the sarcasm Mr Depp

 

[okiehorn]

 

[BruiseLee]

Since no one answered my question on Worthy I will.

He is returning punts thie year or KO's. This could be a reasonfor drop off if not something else

He definitely seems to be dropping a lot more easy passes this year than last.  Since he's a year older, shouldn't he be getting better?

 

[NEOkHorn]

Since no one answered my question on Worthy I will.

He is returning punts thie year or KO's. This could be a reasonfor drop off if not something else

Possibly. Could also simply be a sophomore slump. Happens to a lot of athletes.

 

[longhorndon]

Possibly. Could also simply be a sophomore slump. Happens to a lot of athletes.

I've been thinking Worthy is in that sophomore slump, as well. 

 

[Eastexhorn]

IT has  free article on Ewers to Worthy connection.

 

[Eastexhorn]

24/7 has list of position coaches on hot seat. Horns saftey coach is on it Blake G.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Why is it everytime that you use "we", it makes me wonder why you're bringing aggy into the conversation?...

Because he's Smeagol?

 

[TFloss32]

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[83Dee]

19 hours ago, longhorn_mig said:

I don't know if @TFloss32or anyone else already shared this here, so sorry if this is a repost.

I see a lot of sentiments like this… I simply disagree.   These stats don’t pass the eyeball test - that occurs when simply  watching the games.  There’s more here than a freshman learning curve, first road game jitters or some such thing.  This strikes me as something psychological.  Do y’all remember Steve Sax?  Or more recently Chuck Knoblauch…. These were two second basemen who all of the sudden couldn’t throw the ball from second base to first.  There was also a catcher who inexplicably all of the sudden couldn’t throw the ball back to the pitcher.  None of these were physical or fundamentals… they were psychological.  Quarterback is a position of fine motor skills, like baseball.  And if you look at Ewers vs BAMA and OU… compared with anything since…. This isn’t learning curve or youth related.   I’m afraid that any suggestion that we ought to expect this from a young QB… well, people are rationalizing or perhaps seeing / saying what they wish were true.

These psychological issues aren’t necessarily insurmountable.  But IMHO, running him out there repeatedly to humiliate himself is making the issue worse.  Sit Ewers, and give him an offseason to get right.

Then there’s the chance that I’m completely wrong here.  I’m open to that as well.  

 

[Eastexhorn]

Good points but Sark will never sit Ewers IMO no matter what.

 

[NEOkHorn]

I see a lot of sentiments like this… I simply disagree.   These stats don’t pass the eyeball test - that occurs when simply  watching the games.  There’s more here than a freshman learning curve, first road game jitters or some such thing.  This strikes me as something psychological.  Do y’all remember Steve Sax?  Or more recently Chuck Knoblauch…. These were two second basemen who all of the sudden couldn’t throw the ball from second base to first.  There was also a catcher who inexplicably all of the sudden couldn’t throw the ball back to the pitcher.  None of these were physical or fundamentals… they were psychological.  Quarterback is a position of fine motor skills, like baseball.  And if you look at Ewers vs BAMA and OU… compared with anything since…. This isn’t learning curve or youth related.   I’m afraid that any suggestion that we ought to expect this from a young QB… well, people are rationalizing or perhaps seeing / saying what they wish were true.

These psychological issues aren’t necessarily insurmountable.  But IMHO, running him out there repeatedly to humiliate himself is making the issue worse.  Sit Ewers, and give him an offseason to get right.

Then there’s the chance that I’m completely wrong here.  I’m open to that as well.  

Pretty sure Mackey Sasser is the catcher you are referring to.

Interesting hypothesis. It will be interesting to see if it holds true over the next two weeks and the bowl game. I'm not enough of a psychologist to know if his issues are mental, physical, or fundamental. I did however stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.?

 

[Sirhornsalot]

6-10 is that a sentence that all the fans have to serve?  Lol. What about LSU or Tennessee it sure seems they got on the winning track after a year or two.

You're right. Lets can Sark and go money-whip Josh Heupel.

Next year, we can give LSU's head coach a try.

Maybe after that, we can hire KSU's head coach.

 

[zion3d]

You're right. Lets can Sark and go money-whip Josh Heupel.

Next year, we can give LSU's head coach a try.

Maybe after that, we can hire KSU's head coach.

Oh man don’t be mad.  I am just pointing out that it does not always take 5 years to build a program into one that is winning a lot of games.  Especially with the transfer portal you can put together a good team really fast just like Riley did at USC.  I am not an apologist for the coaches.  When they do what I think is a good job I say so, when I think they do a poor job I say so.  I don’t have an axe to grind against any of them and want them to succeed.  All of the people that say definitively that given more time Sark will have this team winning at least 10 games every year do not know what history has told us about his ability to be an elite head coach.  .554 winning percentage over his career.  11-11 since he came to Texas.  Can he do it?  It is possible.  Will he do it?  Not very probable.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

I see a lot of sentiments like this… I simply disagree.   These stats don’t pass the eyeball test - that occurs when simply  watching the games.  There’s more here than a freshman learning curve, first road game jitters or some such thing.  This strikes me as something psychological.  Do y’all remember Steve Sax?  Or more recently Chuck Knoblauch…. These were two second basemen who all of the sudden couldn’t throw the ball from second base to first.  There was also a catcher who inexplicably all of the sudden couldn’t throw the ball back to the pitcher.  None of these were physical or fundamentals… they were psychological.  Quarterback is a position of fine motor skills, like baseball.  And if you look at Ewers vs BAMA and OU… compared with anything since…. This isn’t learning curve or youth related.   I’m afraid that any suggestion that we ought to expect this from a young QB… well, people are rationalizing or perhaps seeing / saying what they wish were true.

These psychological issues aren’t necessarily insurmountable.  But IMHO, running him out there repeatedly to humiliate himself is making the issue worse.  Sit Ewers, and give him an offseason to get right.

Then there’s the chance that I’m completely wrong here.  I’m open to that as well.  

If you're right, why does everyone fret over playing a freshman at QB? Why has that been the case for decades and decades?

Did everyone have it all wrong all along? Was DKR ignorant on this issue?

Do freshmen inherently have psychological obstacles they can't overcome? Or is that simply a question of development, which would have nothing to do with your psycho explanation.

Players have a bad game from time to time. Last week we were talking about a fingernail on his passing hand. Now it's psychological?

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Oh man don’t be mad.  I am just pointing out that it does not always take 5 years to build a program into one that is winning a lot of games.  Especially with the transfer portal you can put together a good team really fast just like Riley did at USC.  I am not an apologist for the coaches.  When they do what I think is a good job I say so, when I think they do a poor job I say so.  I don’t have an axe to grind against any of them and want them to succeed.  All of the people that say definitively that given more time Sark will have this team winning at least 10 games every year do not know what history has told us about his ability to be an elite head coach.  .554 winning percentage over his career.  11-11 since he came to Texas.  Can he do it?  It is possible.  Will he do it?  Not very probable.

Well, the first example I might have chosen would be TCU. Dykes comes in and just like that, they're 10-0 and ranked #4.

I would imagine that can be attributed by good recruiting by Patterson and that so many of them are seniors and juniors. Their QB is a senior and has two years starting experience behind him before this season.

Ewers had 3 plays at Ohio State in junk time.

No, I'm not mad at all. I am amused more than anything. Suddenly, after a season and a half, some folks are ready to fire the HC. . . lol, who would want that job then?

 

[longhorn_mig]

Let's not forget Hendon Hooker is a 5th year senior that was in Heupel's system last year.

 

[zion3d]

Well, the first example I might have chosen would be TCU. Dykes comes in and just like that, they're 10-0 and ranked #4.

I would imagine that can be attributed by good recruiting by Patterson and that so many of them are seniors and juniors. Their QB is a senior and has two years starting experience behind him before this season.

Ewers had 3 plays at Ohio State in junk time.

No, I'm not mad at all. I am amused more than anything. Suddenly, after a season and a half, some folks are ready to fire the HC. . . lol, who would want that job then?

Not advocating him being fired at all.  Hell, he got Arch Manning so he is here for now.  I am saying that his tenure here is pretty much following the script for Sarkesians time as a head coach.  And saying that it takes time to build a program could be argued as being a straw man for those that want to make the fan base feel better about last year and the failures of this year all be it I think we have somewhat improved in a couple of areas.  I guess the thing that really bothers me the most is blowing all of the leads and losing games because of it.  If Sarkesian knew why it was happening he might be able to fix it.  The fact that it is still an issue means they really don’t know the why so they can’t get to the how to fix it.  

 

[North Texas Golfer]

Oh man don’t be mad.  I am just pointing out that it does not always take 5 years to build a program into one that is winning a lot of games.  Especially with the transfer portal you can put together a good team really fast just like Riley did at USC.  I am not an apologist for the coaches.  When they do what I think is a good job I say so, when I think they do a poor job I say so.  I don’t have an axe to grind against any of them and want them to succeed.  All of the people that say definitively that given more time Sark will have this team winning at least 10 games every year do not know what history has told us about his ability to be an elite head coach.  .554 winning percentage over his career.  11-11 since he came to Texas.  Can he do it?  It is possible.  Will he do it?  Not very probable.

"All of the people that say definitively that given more time Sark will have this team winning at least 10 games every year do not know what history has told us about his ability to be an elite head coach.  .554 winning percentage over his career."  

If you believe that history told us that Sark did not hve the ability to be an elite head coach then you have to say the same thing about Sonny Dykes.

When Texas hired Steve Sarkisian, he had a career win percentage of .568. When TCU hired Sonny Dykes, he had a career win percentage of .530. 

You just never know about these things.