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HornSports Members Prediction Thread: Sugar Bowl

If a guy has a lottery ticket, I wouldn't blame him if he didn't give a 2 week notice. Again, not saying I would do the same, but it is the world we live in and why take a chance, however small it is, to miss out on taking care of yourself and your family?

 
But if that guy has already been provided compensation ahead of time for work performed at a later date, he owes somebody something.

 
#1. I don’t blame him for not playing if he believes the risk is greater than the reward. #2. It seems to indicate the reward isn’t great in his opinion. If they were in the playoffs would he play? #3. I imagine most of the Georgia players share his apathy towards this game and that helps us more than his absence. 

 
But if that guy has already been provided compensation ahead of time for work performed at a later date, he owes somebody something.
These kids sacrifice and give a ton back to the school. They owe nothing to the school to play in an exhibition game. The school is going to get paid regardless, recruiting is not going to take a hit and as it was mentioned by Rick Flair, it helps UT, so...

 
If a guy has a lottery ticket, I wouldn't blame him if he didn't give a 2 week notice. Again, not saying I would do the same, but it is the world we live in and why take a chance, however small it is, to miss out on taking care of yourself and your family?
Big....that is true for the first rounders....or for the first 15 or so of the first rounders. I dont think that guys after that get the big signing bonus. Football contracts are generally not guaranteed, so no promise of making himself or family rich.

An insurance policy( which most of the top guys have anyway) might pay just as much. Still....it is a risk and I can have my opinions, but it is not my place to look down on the young man. Besides, last year for our bowl game ( against an secsecsec opponent) we had 3 guys sit out and our 3 were very important to our defense. I will not feel sorry for Georgia.

Ha....speaking of that reminds me of when Parcells was the Cowboy coach and 3 top guys went down right for the start of the playoffs, maybe including the QB...Parcells said..." I am sure of 2 things...# 1 We still have to play the game...and # 2  no one will feel sorry for us"

 
These kids sacrifice and give a ton back to the school. They owe nothing to the school to play in an exhibition game. The school is going to get paid regardless, recruiting is not going to take a hit and as it was mentioned by Rick Flair, it helps UT, so...
It’s a business decision by the player. The bottom line in College athletics is the bottom line. It’s not a something we fans want to believe but it is the reality. For most elite players college is somewhere you go until you’re draft eligible. Universities make boat loads of money on these “student/ athletes”.  In 2017 our football revenue was $42 million. If the 85 scholarship athletes received $30,000 for the year (they all won’t because of student federal aide) that would cost $2.55 million. I’m sorry but if I’ve helped a business generate $39 million and I have the chance to reap the benefits of my labor I’m cashing in. 

 
These kids sacrifice and give a ton back to the school. They owe nothing to the school to play in an exhibition game. The school is going to get paid regardless, recruiting is not going to take a hit and as it was mentioned by Rick Flair, it helps UT, so...
I'm wondering when bowl games became exhibitions. I must have missed that. It must be like the frog in a slowly heating pot. Back in the last century bowl games were a reward and a stage to showcase your abilities against opponents you wouldn't normally play.

It looks to me that the NFL combine and agents are ruining what fans and players used to look forward to every year.

 
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It’s a business decision by the player. The bottom line in College athletics is the bottom line. It’s not a something we fans want to believe but it is the reality. For most elite players college is somewhere you go until you’re draft eligible. Universities make boat loads of money on these “student/ athletes”.  In 2017 our football revenue was $42 million. If the 85 scholarship athletes received $30,000 for the year (they all won’t because of student federal aide) that would cost $2.55 million. I’m sorry but if I’ve helped a business generate $39 million and I have the chance to reap the benefits of my labor I’m cashing in. 
Thanks a lot,  Ricky.  You just singlehandedly destroyed my love for college football.  :angry:  lol.

You may see it as dollars and cents decision only, and for some,  it is.  I believe that is a decision they will regret later in life. 

They were taught to give 100% effort and play for the love of their teammates and suddenly it's okay for them to quit when their team really needs them one last time? Right or wrong, that will leave a bad taste in the mouths of many fans who, by the way, paid for their education and training. 

Not only do the young men miss out on the excitement of a bowl game,  but the fans pay big bucks to see a subpar team. 

To me, the bottom line is that they quit the team one game early. I refuse to accept any other reality.  :)

 
It’s a business decision by the player. The bottom line in College athletics is the bottom line. It’s not a something we fans want to believe but it is the reality. For most elite players college is somewhere you go until you’re draft eligible. Universities make boat loads of money on these “student/ athletes”.  In 2017 our football revenue was $42 million. If the 85 scholarship athletes received $30,000 for the year (they all won’t because of student federal aide) that would cost $2.55 million. I’m sorry but if I’ve helped a business generate $39 million and I have the chance to reap the benefits of my labor I’m cashing in. 
They are amateurs, not professionals. And I for one hope we never change that. It's the whole freaking point. Get a free education. Get free gear. Get free food. Get free lodging. And if you get hurt get free medical attention and then use your free education to live your life like a normal person. (I'd even be totally cool with some kind of power 5 or Div 1 slush fund for per diem during the season or something like that). But if you are a player on the team, play the season. I don't like it but I can understand an exception for a first round pick in the Jimmy's Used Cars Bowl on a 6-6 team, but a 10-2 team in the Sugar Bowl? Lame.

 
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They are amateurs, not professionals. And I for one hope we never change that. It's the whole freaking point. Get a free education. Get free gear. Get free food. Get free lodging. And if you get hurt get free medical attention and then use your free education to live your life like a normal person. (I'd even be totally cool with some kind of power 5 or Div 1 slush fund for per diem during the season or something like that). But if you are a player on the team, play the season. I don't like it but I can understand an exception for a first round pick in the Jimmy's Used Cars Bowl on a 6-6 team, but a 10-2 team in the Sugar Bowl? Lame.
Agree, except every bowl counts and you team mates are counting on you to be there where ever it is.

 
From a football standpoint, when you’re representing your team, and your brothers who are your teammates, it’s unthinkable to not play one last time. I understand and could agree with everyone who disagrees with his decision for the very reasons you’ve stated. The reason I agree with the decision is because he knows what he needs to do and I’m sure he is torn. I don’t know his specific situation but I do know some of these kids come from financial hardships most of us can’t comprehend. I’m sure a college degree would benefit them and help secure a better future but the money they have dangling in front of them is life changing not only for them but their family. They probably listen to bad advice and seem selfish to outsiders but they see an opportunity break out of poverty. Their teammates are important but they are not their number one priority. Being the MVP of the Sugar Bowl would be an awesome accomplishment that you could remember  for the rest of your life but it won’t put food on the table and for many kids that memory can’t be their goal. 

 
From a football standpoint, when you’re representing your team, and your brothers who are your teammates, it’s unthinkable to not play one last time. I understand and could agree with everyone who disagrees with his decision for the very reasons you’ve stated. The reason I agree with the decision is because he knows what he needs to do and I’m sure he is torn. I don’t know his specific situation but I do know some of these kids come from financial hardships most of us can’t comprehend. I’m sure a college degree would benefit them and help secure a better future but the money they have dangling in front of them is life changing not only for them but their family. They probably listen to bad advice and seem selfish to outsiders but they see an opportunity break out of poverty. Their teammates are important but they are not their number one priority. Being the MVP of the Sugar Bowl would be an awesome accomplishment that you could remember  for the rest of your life but it won’t put food on the table and for many kids that memory can’t be their goal. 
Well said,  Ricky.   We can agree with that, but it's a perceived trend that bothers me. Not all these kids are hardship cases, and what I see is professional football creeping further down into the college level. 

 
I'm wondering when bowl games became exhibitions. I must have missed that. It must be like the frog in a slowly heating pot. Back in the last century bowl games were a reward and a stage to showcase your abilities against opponents you wouldn't normally play.

It looks to me that the NFL combine and agents are ruining what fans and players used to look forward to every year.
When they changed the format to a four team playoff and a bunch or bowls of much, much less importance.   

Cats out of the bag now, we will never go back.   But bowl games were special many moons ago.  

 
Yes bowls were special now ESPN controls them rather than the Networks.

As to the game hope the coaches impress on punt returners, the key word for get away from the ball.

 
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Well said,  Ricky.   We can agree with that, but it's a perceived trend that bothers me. Not all these kids are hardship cases, and what I see is professional football creeping further down into the college level. 
I definitely agree.

 
Last thing I’ll say about Deandre Baker. He is a senior and he could have left last year.

Google Liberty City in Miami Fla. That’s Deandre’s hometown. 

 
From a football standpoint, when you’re representing your team, and your brothers who are your teammates, it’s unthinkable to not play one last time. I understand and could agree with everyone who disagrees with his decision for the very reasons you’ve stated. The reason I agree with the decision is because he knows what he needs to do and I’m sure he is torn. I don’t know his specific situation but I do know some of these kids come from financial hardships most of us can’t comprehend. I’m sure a college degree would benefit them and help secure a better future but the money they have dangling in front of them is life changing not only for them but their family. They probably listen to bad advice and seem selfish to outsiders but they see an opportunity break out of poverty. Their teammates are important but they are not their number one priority. Being the MVP of the Sugar Bowl would be an awesome accomplishment that you could remember  for the rest of your life but it won’t put food on the table and for many kids that memory can’t be their goal. 
I guess I don't buy the hardship argument. I mean what are the odds of someone sustaining a career ending injury in a bowl game these days? It's like getting hit by lightening. And they'll only drop a few rounds (pretty much worst case scenario, no?) but they will still be lifted way out of poverty (if that's where they were). And all the goodwill and support of their school and fan base will be worth a lot when they leave the game. Maybe significantly more. How long does the average career last anyway? 

I do agree they are getting bad advice. Very hard to put a value on self worth vs the ignobility of letting down your friends for money.

 
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I’m glad one of Georgia’s senior team leaders is representing how much he takes this game for granted. Ellinger is gonna light them up with CJ and Lil’ Jordan. Can’t wait....

 
Okay, its time to make a prediction for this game. I've waited to now because anything can happen in the weeks leading up to the bowl.

Georgia lost their leading DB, so yeah, something changed. This should help the Texas passing game.

IMO, playing Georgia is like playing Bama. They're very similarly made, have similar schemes, and have a similar talent level. 

OU has created a blueprint for defeating this type of team. Hopefully, staff has noticed.

On the surface, one cringes at the thought of playing one of the SEC's top two teams in a bowl game. But on the other hand, TH and staff have a habit of playing up to their competition, . . of getting a team ready for a big game. Texas also has the incentive to launch next year's season now with a big time win over a big time program. This would send expectations for next year through the roof.

Georgia 34

Texas 32

 
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