CROSSFIRE with McPhaul - NEW YEAR’S DAY EDITION

[Juan]

Darrell I have a question for you for all of HornSports Family. HAS MAD DOG, BIG DOG LEFT OR BEEN RETIRED OR FIRED. This Guy has to be gone. Please find out for us......Please
We do not need MAD DOG around at all. HOOK'EM

We all know how Old Yeller ended

 

[Dude65]

Unfortunately that's about where I figured things were at. It's a much longer, slower process than what most of us had thought it would be or had hoped for. Oh well, good things come to those who wait. Thanks again Darrell

 

[SlickStreet]

Why is that a problem? It is a fraternity, and they should have access.

Because too much of such and you get some of the same problems that occurred under Mack. It led to a harder time to remove him, because there were a number of heavy hitters who loved the easy access to Mack and the inner program.

There's a line that's probably not easily determined, but I suspect that Mack allowed it to be crossed too much into the familiar and easy.

I don't want a Mackovic either, though, but that kind of atmosphere can be forgiven if you win huge; he obviously didn't, which made it a lot simpler to remove him.

 

[SlickStreet]

This report is nonsense. None of those guys are going to be the next UT coach..

so what's the answer, mr insider?

 

[orangeflow]

So Harbaugh has a super bowl ring-Remember Charlie Weis- ND-He had 4 super bowl rings-how did he do as a college coach-Harbaugh has been in the NFL for 16 years dealing basically with grown men- Not 17-20 year old kids - or the recruiting trail. That is why Patterson needs to hang his hat on a proven current college head coach. I like Saban for a quick instant fix....Fisher provides long term improvement in defense and offense-top 5 in both catagories nationally and is only 48 years old. Briles has shown great offense and recruiting but his defense has always been suspect.

 

[Clan Fraser]

Not because of the work load, I think it's more a case of dealing with flighty, unpredictable 18 years olds, and that group seems to get more convinced of their own importance every year.

Good point. However, this is where Harbaugh's HC experience is a huge plus, imo. There's no shortage of entitled, self-centered and even unstable divas in the NFL.

 

[SlickStreet]

Watch Baylor tonight and see if Briles defense is something you want at Texas

I don't think you can make that comparison without making some really big adjustments in thinking. Most notably, the talent level at Texas should be much greater defensively for a Briles if he were to come. Secondly, and perhaps most importantly, BU's defense was enormously improved this year. It wasn't until they started sustaining a lot of key injuries on D that it suffered some, and even then overall was pretty stout except for the OSU game, where everything came crashing down around the whole team after Petty inexplicably fell down before scoring.

I'm not wholly sold that our D would be elite, but I think it would be very good, and that's likely going to be good enough considering the monster offense we'd have.

That said, Briles isn't my first choice, but I think we can do a whole lot worse, to say the least!

 

[LongviewLobo01]

Great stuff Darrell.

A few thoughts on who I think we need to hire:

1. Saban - He's the GOAT. There's really nothing else that needs to be said. He gets the first offer and we go from there.

2. Jimbo Fisher - If we can't get Saban, let's go get the nearest guy to him. Fisher worked with Saban and has assistants that are Sabans guys. He runs his program like Saban and has built Florida State into a powerhouse just like Saban has built Alabama. The biggest difference between Fisher and Saban is that Fisher is an offensive guy. The fact that he followed a legend at FSU in Bowden when he took that job makes me feel better about him coming here. The LSU donors and alums that I work with swear by Fisher.

3. John Harbaugh - I don't care that he doesn't have any ties to college. His brother and father do. All he has to do is call his brother Jim to get help when it comes to recruiting and the like. The fact that the guy won a Super Bowl says all you need to know about him as a coach. They don't just give those trophies away. Getting a guy like Harbaugh would give us the best coach on the field in pretty much every game that we play.

4. Art Briles - I wouldn't mind him, but I'd rather have other guys before him. First of all I don't think he'd come. Second, he doesn't have the personality you need to be the head coach at Texas. He doesn't want to deal with boosters or the media. He can definitely coach offense and their defense has improved this year. At least with Briles you know he's going to have good offenses.

I think people are over reacting to the fact that guys don't have recruiting ties. We aren't Baylor. Or TCU. Or Oklahoma State. We are Texas. If the coach is winning games recruiting will take care of itself. Mack didn't have any ties to the state and came into a program where the high school coaches hated Texas. The new coach isn't going to have that problem when they take over. True aggy and Baylor are better now than they were 16 years ago, but if Texas starts winning again kids aren't going to be picking Baylor and Briles over Texas no matter what kind of ties he has to the coaching association.

I didn't list Gruden because I don't truly think he's an option, but there are some rumblings on another site that he might be. I would take him over Briles if he actually is an option. And probably over Harbaugh due to the fact that Gruden is a VERY strong offensive 's and O's coach. Gruden is a better coach than Fisher and Briles. He's got a Super Bowl ring. He would need to build a staff of guys with ties to the college game, but Mora showed how easy that can be done when he got hired at UCLA. He has the name recognition to walk into living rooms and recruit without a doubt. He'd be a homerun without a doubt, but I don't think he's actually a guy we could hire.

 

[LongviewLobo01]

So Harbaugh has a super bowl ring-Remember Charlie Weis- ND-He had 4 super bowl rings-how did he do as a college coach-Harbaugh has been in the NFL for 16 years dealing basically with grown men- Not 17-20 year old kids - or the recruiting trail. That is why Patterson needs to hang his hat on a proven current college head coach. I like Saban for a quick instant fix....Fisher provides long term improvement in defense and offense-top 5 in both catagories nationally and is only 48 years old. Briles has shown great offense and recruiting but his defense has always been suspect.

Comparing Weis and Harbaugh is apples and oranges. Weis was an assistant for those titles. He was never the head guy. Also, he was never known as a very personable coach. Ever. Harbaugh was the head coach of a Super Bowl winning team. If we were talking about Belicheck being a college failure that argument might hold water.

 

[roanokehorn]

If you are going to assert yourself like this, you have to supply the reasons why. Otherwise your comment means nothing other than unsupported speculation.

Okay. When you form a committee to help find a coach, you do it for a reason. To help you find the best coach possible for UT. What is the biggest issue at Texas? Lack of OFFENSE. Here's a stat for you..Army has more offensive touchdowns this year than Texas!!!

So the search needs to be a HC that is offensive minded. So out of the possible candidates, that leaves Fisher and Briles. Saban Strong and Harbaugh are defensive minded coaches. Briles is building a new stadium and signed a contract extension and most importantly, his qb is returning. This gives Baylor a shot at a playoff, even with one loss.

Fisher signed an extension, has a heisman winner, is playing in a NC game, and has just flipped 1 gator committ and 98% chance of flipping another one, his son loves Winston too. Not leaving for Texas. He had a chance to leave for Auburn and more money and didn't. He's staying.

Harbaugh-signed an extension in 2013 and hasn't coached in college for 15 years. His name is only being brought up because of a dumb article. Also I live in DC area..no chatter at all about Harbaugh leaving at all.

Saban- too old to start over, he's only 2 months younger than Mack Brown. Saban is also in a unique position, the assistant coaches that he would want to bring with him the most, are the ones that would most likely get promoted if he left. And the ones that left Bama for Texas over money would be persona non grata in Bama, without a familiar staff the rebuilding process becomes longer. A one loss Bama is a shoo in for the play-offs. His ego might want to come to Austin, and it's certainly a great place to live, but he works through the process and stays.

 

[doc longhorn]

So, what you are saying, is that if you were offered more money right now, for doing exactly what you are currently doing, that you wouldn't accept the raise right now? Oh, and despite the fact that you get the raise and security right now, you also have the option later to look around for an even better situation without consequence. Not signing would be a horrendous lack of judgement. Your premise is based off of horrible logic.

Your premise assumes the coach will prostitute himself for money, regardless of his situation? Would you? Would your family agree and, if they didn't, would you care? Besides, do you know their situation or are you just assuming theirs is like yours? You also assume the coach has never been contacted until now. We already know Saban has been contacted and he still chose Bama. How do we know that Fisher hasn't been already contacted? And is HE is in some kind of waiting position as well? Is it the never ending story of waiting for more money? At what point do you give up the ghost and admit it's over? In other words - where is your logic?

 

[RealtorHorn]

Watch Baylor tonight and see if Briles defense is something you want at Texas

UT's staff resources > Baylor's

 

[doc longhorn]

Watch Baylor tonight and see if Briles defense is something you want at Texas

I'll answer this. Briles is the head coach, not the defensive coordinator. If you are going to criticize Briles defense, you have to criticize his choice in a DC. I think your assertion is legitimate if you think his DC is crummy and he still brings him to Texas. However, it also takes talent and I have to believe Briles would recruit the talent to Texas - Baylor is still Baylor and Texas is still Texas.

 

[UT Horn]

Thanks, D! Happy New Year.

 

[doc longhorn]

Comparing Weis and Harbaugh is apples and oranges. Weis was an assistant for those titles. He was never the head guy. Also, he was never known as a very personable coach. Ever. Harbaugh was the head coach of a Super Bowl winning team. If we were talking about Belicheck being a college failure that argument might hold water.

Good points, but I am curious Longview. Would you prefer John Harbaugh over Jim Harbaugh?

 

[Clan Fraser]

1. Saban - He's the GOAT. There's really nothing else that needs to be said. He gets the first offer and we go from there.

2. Jimbo Fisher - If we can't get Saban, let's go get the nearest guy to him. Fisher worked with Saban and has assistants that are Sabans guys. He runs his program like Saban and has built Florida State into a powerhouse just like Saban has built Alabama. The biggest difference between Fisher and Saban is that Fisher is an offensive guy. The fact that he followed a legend at FSU in Bowden when he took that job makes me feel better about him coming here. The LSU donors and alums that I work with swear by Fisher.

3. John Harbaugh - I don't care that he doesn't have any ties to college. His brother and father do. All he has to do is call his brother Jim to get help when it comes to recruiting and the like. The fact that the guy won a Super Bowl says all you need to know about him as a coach. They don't just give those trophies away. Getting a guy like Harbaugh would give us the best coach on the field in pretty much every game that we play.

4. Art Briles - I wouldn't mind him, but I'd rather have other guys before him. First of all I don't think he'd come. Second, he doesn't have the personality you need to be the head coach at Texas. He doesn't want to deal with boosters or the media. He can definitely coach offense and their defense has improved this year. At least with Briles you know he's going to have good offenses.

Nailed it. This is my top four as well.

 

[LongviewLobo01]

Good points, but I am curious Longview. Would you prefer John Harbaugh over Jim Harbaugh?

I'd prefer Jim because of what he was able to do at Stanford and is a known quality. Right now that's what we need. And one of the biggest reasons why Briles would be a strong hire. But I think John would be solid because of his brother's success and the fact that he could use Jim as a sounding board in how to coach in the college game.

 

[doc longhorn]

I'd prefer Jim because of what he was able to do at Stanford and is a known quality. Right now that's what we need. And one of the biggest reasons why Briles would be a strong hire. But I think John would be solid because of his brother's success and the fact that he could use Jim as a sounding board in how to coach in the college game.

Yeah, I agree with your choice of Jim. Texas HC being what it is and Texas being Texas, why wouldn't we try to make Jim Harbaugh say no?

 

[LongviewLobo01]

Yeah, I agree with your choice of Jim. Texas HC being what it is and Texas being Texas, why wouldn't we try to make Jim Harbaugh say no? Money whip him, if we have to?

I think we have put feelers out. But the problem with Jim is time. If the 49ers win this weekend and they should, that's another week that we have to wait. And then if he wins the next week, we have to wait even longer. We can't afford to wait. As much as I want Jim, at the same time I don't think we can wait past the end of the dead period to hire a coach. If we waited that long, we better be a 1,000,000 percent sure that Jim is coming because if he were to change his mind we'd be royally screwed. No coach is going to leave his school that late in the process, even for a job like Texas. We just can't risk it.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

So now Orangebloods is buzzing with insiders and Ketch saying a camp is legitimately pushing Gruden. McPhaul, is this new news and can your contacts confirm?

LOL, uh, no.