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Potential coaching candidates to replace Art Briles at Baylor

Finding a new head football coach at Baylor will obviously be a distant second to getting the culture changed, but whomever that new coach is will play a big part in that change. Art Briles had won big at Baylor, but at a horrifying cost as laid out in a nine-month investigation by an outside firm the school hired in the wake of a series of sexual assault allegations involving Bears football players. As we wrote Thursday, some victims and their families felt a sense of relief when they learned Briles had been ousted.

So, what is next in Waco?

Expect more terminations, I'm told, in the athletic department over the coming weeks as Baylor begins to sort out the findings from Pepper Hamilton, the Philly law firm it hired last September to conduct the investigation. There are more disturbing allegations in the pipeline. There are lawsuits Baylor needs to respond to. There will be more discovery, more depositions, more allegations. Also, more victims likely will come forward now that action has taken place. And possible NCAA violations to weed through.

"This will really spider into all sorts of directions," an industry source well-versed in collegiate crisis management told FOX Sports on Thursday night.

As we reported, defensive coordinator Phil Bennett is getting consideration for an interim head coaching role. Discussions are ongoing, but will the school be able to retain Bennett -- and many other assistants -- in light of the Pepper Hamilton investigation and make it through the 2016 season? Or even to the start of the 2016 season?

It's possible Baylor could opt to go in a completely different direction with fall camp a little more than two months away.

Does it scramble to get a new head coach in place, one intrigued by the program's talented roster that had many seeing this as a top 15 team? Not to mention the school does have impressive new facilities and strong local recruiting base.

Does it go for a short-term hire to try to stabilize the place while patching together whatever staff is left?

I doubt Baylor brass will try to tab an old Briles protege who is now at a different program, and I highly doubt Houston's Tom Herman -- as much as some Baylor folks would love to have him -- would give this job any serious consideration.

If Baylor can hold off on conducting its search till after the 2016 season, it'll likely have a little better sense of the landscape the new head coach will have to deal with.

Here are some of the coaching options I think could be in play for Baylor. As you'll see, they fall into some unique categories:

The caretakers

Mack Brown: The former Texas head coach is 64 and has been out of coaching for more than two seasons. Yes, the latter years of his tenure at UT were shaky, but he did lead the Longhorns to six top 5 finishes and a national title. He's also extremely well-regarded around the state and in coaching circles. Keep in mind there are going to be a lot of tough press conferences for the new face of Baylor football to navigate. That'd be a tall order for an interim guy, especially one linked to the Briles tenure. There's probably no one more suited to dealing with that than Brown. Baylor brass would have to be completely clear up front with him that he'd not be viewed as the long-term solution but more as a guy riding in to help stabilize a program in chaos for just one or two seasons. Brown knows there's plenty of talent already in place. Of course, this would create additional challenges in recruiting.

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Mike Singletary: The greatest player in Baylor history was an NFL legend. He's 57 now and after a decade of NFL coaching, he's been out of the game since 2013. He actually made a run at the BU head coaching job 14 years ago but Guy Morriss ended up getting it, and then he was in the mix for it a few years later. Singletary does have some head coaching experience with the 49ers. A protege of former Baylor coach Grant Teaff, Singletary is deeply religious and is a big name from the Bears' past. Like Brown, he doesn't have a real connection to the Bears' offensive scheme, and also like Brown, his presence could be a big asset as Baylor football tries to wade through a turbulent time looking for a new face of its program.

The Texas guys

Larry Fedora: The UNC coach is a College Station native and knows Baylor well. He spent six seasons as a Bears assistant two decades ago. Fedora is coming off a top 15 season last year and should have another good team in 2016. Would Fedora be inclined to wait and see if some bigger coaching jobs in the state of Texas come open this winter? Probably. Don't forget, though, that Fedora has been operating under a dark NCAA cloud at Chapel Hill in the wake of an academic scandal that he had nothing to do with. Last fall, Fedora told FOX Sports that about 95 percent of the time when talking to recruits, he and his staff get asked about it. Would he want to walk into another turbulent situation?

Sonny Dykes: The son of former Texas Tech coach Spike Dykes, Sonny knows the state of Texas -- and its high school coaches -- very well. He's a good offensive coach and has done a very nice job straightening up a messy Cal program that had all sorts of issues off the field and in the classroom. The support at Cal is pretty sketchy, and my hunch is he could be tempted by Baylor.

Chad Morris: He, too, was a wildly successful former Texas high school coach. Morris had a very impressive run as Clemson's offensive coordinator before taking over at SMU. He seems to have the Mustangs back on track and should have a much better year than his 2-10 debut season. If he can get SMU to a bowl game in 2016 -- and I wouldn't bet against that happening -- Morris will be on a lot of schools' radars.

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Todd Graham: Like Briles, the 51-year-old from Mesquite is a former Texas high school coach. Graham got off to a fast start at Arizona State, winning 28 games in his first three seasons, and brought some discipline to a program that lacked it. But he's coming off a 6-7 season. He's also a guy who has been known to rub a lot of folks the wrong way.

Blake Anderson: Technically, he was born in Arkansas, but he grew up in Texas and he played in college at Baylor and Sam Houston State. He worked under Fedora before taking over at Arkansas State and has won 16 games in his first two seasons.

Doug Meacham: The 51-year-old TCU offensive coordinator has done a superb job for Gary Patterson. Meacham is an Arlington, Texas, native and should be in line for some decent head coaching vacancies this winter.

Lincoln Riley: The Oklahoma offensive coordinator is a Mike Leach protege but is mature beyond his years. He's going to get a pretty good head coaching opportunity sooner than later. He's already turned down shots at mid-level FBS head coaching gigs. Riley, 32, will be choosey. I'm not sure he would make the big jump for a program in this position.

Sonny Cumbie: Like Riley, he's Leach disciple from the Texas Tech tree. The 34-year-old from Abilene is very young and he's very well compensated at TCU, where he's the co-offensive coordinator and QB coach.

The wild-card guys

Troy Calhoun: For a program in need of a culture change, Calhoun, a former Air Force QB and now that academy's coach, would make some sense and he'd fit in with the group of other more straight-arrow types. The 49-year-old Calhoun also is not the traditional service academy coach in scheme. He's actually a former Houston Texans offensive coordinator and runs one of the more intricate systems in the college game. His Air Force teams are 18-9 the past two years and have beaten Boise State twice and No. 21 Colorado State (in 2014).

 
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Jeff Brohm: Talk to lots of college coaches about a rising star in their industry and the third-year Western Kentucky guy's name is often the first one they mention. He's 20-7 at WKU, and the personable former Louisville QB probably is going to have his pick of a handful of decent jobs this winter.

Matt Wells: I've always thought Wells, 42, is one of those pretty rare coaches who would be a decent fit just about anywhere. The Oklahoma native has done very well at Utah State since taking over, going 25-16 in three seasons despite all sorts of injuries at QB. In 2014, he led his team to 10 wins despite starting four different quarterbacks. Since he took over, the Aggies are 3-3 against ranked opponents after going 2-50 before he got the job.

Brian Polian: The son of Pro Football Hall of Famer Bill Polian got his masters degree at Baylor. He's a former GA in Waco who also spent a season on Kevin Sumlin's Texas A&M staff. Polian took over a tricky job following Nevada legend Chris Ault and has done pretty well. He is coming off consecutive winning seasons and gaining some momentum in Reno. He was always known as a terrific recruiter and is very organized. With a strong 2016, Polian figures to be on some athletic directors' lists.

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/baylor-bears-art-briles-fired-new-coach-mack-brown-mike-singletary-fedora-dykes-morris-052716

 
If you were a coach with any kind of a future in mind would you walk into a situation like what is current at baylor? You will have to deal with attrition, decommits, guys wanting releases from their LOI, transfers and all the recruiting problems you will face in light of the scandal. Besides all that you will be measured against Briles' record, however tainted it will be. I think they will be lucky to even get a guy like Larry Coker.

 
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there were probably 300 people at baylor who knew what was going on and many of them aided and abetted.  how many people have been let go so far?  that's right: one.

one.

if you walked in there as coach, every kid you wanted would hear that all day long from other programs.  they'd ask the kid if he knows where he wants to go when you get canned.

 
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If you were a coach with any kind of a future in mind would you walk into a situation like what is current at baylor? You will have to deal with attrition, decommits, guys wanting releases from their LOI, transfers and all the recruiting problems you will face in light of the scandal. Besides all that you will be measured against Briles' record, however tainted it will be. I think they will be lucky to even get a guy like Larry Coker.
It depends on what sanctions, if any, the NCAA hands down to BU.

An up-and-coming young coach who is committed to being there a few years can do well, IMO. I think they need another offensive innovator who likes living and coaching in TX. Somebody like Major Applewhite or Sonny Cumbie would be a good choice.

On the plus side, the expectations will be taken down a notch because the next HC will be expected to "play by the rules" and be subjected to a helluva lot more scrutiny. And justifiably so.

 
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there's actually a thread on baylor fans where they are discussing grant teaff supposedly having approached mack regarding a one-year opportunity to ooze his goo in bear dens (of iniquity).

many don't like the idea at all, but some seem to like the goodwill, etc it might purchase.  after all, mack is spotless in this matter.

do we flip to see who gets to tell them about cleve?

 
another question:  anybody know where maddog is and whether he can still stand up?  baylor may need some of his puffball magic.

 
another question:  anybody know where maddog is and whether he can still stand up?  baylor may need some of his puffball magic.

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IMO, Singletary matches the criteria for what Baylor needs in their next head coach. He's a disciplinarian, instills dedication and the other things that Baylor's program has been missing. No funny business would happen under his watch, thats for sure. And his players will love him.

He's a defensive mind, so he'll need to have what would ideally be a Briles disciple at OC.

He's also OF Baylor. For a while, he was the face of Baylor. There is no candidate with more connection to the school than him.

 
I had to repost this for you all

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Anonymous HS Coach's opinion of Briles......not good

by ATX89

Saw this from a poster on another site and thought I'd share. This isn't from a mod on that site for what it's worth so not mod generated premium content. Pretty damning for Art.

"There are endless things to say about the ongoing developments at Baylor, and with many facts still missing, it’s hard to say anything utterly definitive, but I felt like it was worth sharing a quote from a former high school football coach that claims to have known Art Briles on a personal level for decades:

'This day has been decades in the making. All the shady, vile, amoral attitude and behavior of Art Briles' "win at any cost" philosophy has finally caught up to him. He's been racking up a debt against Karma for years and now the bill has finally come due. You reap what you sow, Art. You reap what you sow. This day is for the high school kids you tacitly encouraged to inject poison into their bodies. This day is for the high school kids whom you openly encouraged to play dirty in order to intimidate the opposition. This day is for the high school kids who suffered severe dehydration and needed hospitalization because you prevented air conditioning in the visitor's locker room in order to gain a competitive advantage. This day is for the high school coaches who had to put up with game film missing entire offensive series of your teams so you'd have a competitive advantage. This day is for the high school coaches who you refused to shake hands with after they upset you and ended your winning streak. This day is for the college coaches who had to put up with your false allegations of recruiting violations when you didn't get the kid you wanted. This day is for the college kids who you blocked their transfer when they wanted to be closer to their ailing parents and siblings. This day is for the college kids whom you enabled to continue to do bad things at the expense of learning accountability and integrity so you could continue to win games. But mostly, this day is for the young women whose lives were destroyed by your lack of morality, humanity, and decency. This day is the end of your career on the sidelines. And if you stop to listen, you can hear above the anguished cries of self-righteous indignation from your cult of Baylor fans in Waco the sweet, melodious chorus of justice from heaven's angels. May their anthems ring in your ears for eternity.'

So with that, to all the Baylor people that continue to blindly defend Art Briles, I say shame on you. And to all the Baylor fans that are patting themselves on the back and self-congratulating Baylor for “doing the right thing,†shame on you too. The right thing to do was to fire Briles last August when this dumpster fire of pure evil finally came to light. Instead, Baylor and its fans chose to defend Briles at the most disgusting levels. They screamed that this was all a conspiracy and that people were just jealous of their success. Well guess what Baylor? The only conspiracy were the sickos at your "Christian" school going to criminal lengths to cover up rape. As it appears, the Baylor Board of Regents only fired Briles because Ken Starr threatened, and still does, to go public with what the external investigation found. Starr refused to be a scapegoat, leaked that he told the regents to release the full external report, and left the regents no choice but to fire Art Briles. Just a few days ago, after getting the Pepper Hamilton external report, the regents were planning on canning Starr and doing everything they could to keep Briles. So now Baylor wants people to celebrate them for making the hard decision and “doing the right thing†after actively harboring a Rape Enabler for years? Give me a break Baylor. You didn’t chose to “do the right thing.†You were pinned into a corner and forced to."

 
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Wow! If there are others that have this same knowledge and opinion of Briles, this would be the time to clear their chest. Wonder how many more make it public... A lot of implications with the events of this week, but hopefully, the young ladies hurt by the inactions of the "adults" involved will get justice and closure. An attempt to right the ship doesn't end with this firing, it only begins.

 
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I had to repost this for you all

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Anonymous HS Coach's opinion of Briles......not good

by ATX89

Saw this from a poster on another site and thought I'd share. This isn't from a mod on that site for what it's worth so not mod generated premium content. Pretty damning for Art.

"There are endless things to say about the ongoing developments at Baylor, and with many facts still missing, it’s hard to say anything utterly definitive, but I felt like it was worth sharing a quote from a former high school football coach that claims to have known Art Briles on a personal level for decades:

'This day has been decades in the making. All the shady, vile, amoral attitude and behavior of Art Briles' "win at any cost" philosophy has finally caught up to him. He's been racking up a debt against Karma for years and now the bill has finally come due. You reap what you sow, Art. You reap what you sow. This day is for the high school kids you tacitly encouraged to inject poison into their bodies. This day is for the high school kids whom you openly encouraged to play dirty in order to intimidate the opposition. This day is for the high school kids who suffered severe dehydration and needed hospitalization because you prevented air conditioning in the visitor's locker room in order to gain a competitive advantage. This day is for the high school coaches who had to put up with game film missing entire offensive series of your teams so you'd have a competitive advantage. This day is for the high school coaches who you refused to shake hands with after they upset you and ended your winning streak. This day is for the college coaches who had to put up with your false allegations of recruiting violations when you didn't get the kid you wanted. This day is for the college kids who you blocked their transfer when they wanted to be closer to their ailing parents and siblings. This day is for the college kids whom you enabled to continue to do bad things at the expense of learning accountability and integrity so you could continue to win games. But mostly, this day is for the young women whose lives were destroyed by your lack of morality, humanity, and decency. This day is the end of your career on the sidelines. And if you stop to listen, you can hear above the anguished cries of self-righteous indignation from your cult of Baylor fans in Waco the sweet, melodious chorus of justice from heaven's angels. May their anthems ring in your ears for eternity.'

So with that, to all the Baylor people that continue to blindly defend Art Briles, I say shame on you. And to all the Baylor fans that are patting themselves on the back and self-congratulating Baylor for “doing the right thing,†shame on you too. The right thing to do was to fire Briles last August when this dumpster fire of pure evil finally came to light. Instead, Baylor and its fans chose to defend Briles at the most disgusting levels. They screamed that this was all a conspiracy and that people were just jealous of their success. Well guess what Baylor? The only conspiracy were the sickos at your "Christian" school going to criminal lengths to cover up rape. As it appears, the Baylor Board of Regents only fired Briles because Ken Starr threatened, and still does, to go public with what the external investigation found. Starr refused to be a scapegoat, leaked that he told the regents to release the full external report, and left the regents no choice but to fire Art Briles. Just a few days ago, after getting the Pepper Hamilton external report, the regents were planning on canning Starr and doing everything they could to keep Briles. So now Baylor wants people to celebrate them for making the hard decision and “doing the right thing†after actively harboring a Rape Enabler for years? Give me a break Baylor. You didn’t chose to “do the right thing.†You were pinned into a corner and forced to."
This was pretty much my view of Briles even before this scandal came out. Although I didn't know how much of a douche bag Briles really is.

 
not sure we can do that exactly, but i do think this marks a point of inflection and we need to move away from them.  they'll be fine and so will we.

bu-leeave me.

 
'nother thing.

i see ol' wes over on his site self-flagellating over the sins of baylor.  or rather, offering us up for flagellation, as is his wont.  seems every time someone get his nuts in a crack we have to pay.  i'm getting to where, when i see somebody has done something wrong, i find myself on my knees on the mat, crying: 'hit me.  no, harder.  i must paaaay.'

what is it with him?  doesn't he realize you can't do that every time?  you'll lose your focus.  i learned timing when i was a kid.  when we'd get into rock fights with other kids, at some point i'd pick up two rocks.  throw the first one high in a looping arc.  the other boys would look at that rock and laugh.  'what do you expect to hit with that lob, dork?'  while they looked at the first rock and laughed, i'd throw the second one.  that only works one time, i learned.  save it for when you need it.  with wes it seems like his once-poignant message is becoming a laugher.  ol' wes again.  diluted and deluded.  at some point you begin to wonder if maybe it's he who's in need of some headbolt retorquing.

 
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