12 Team Playoff

[BWilk55]

In 2008 we were in a 3 way tie, and lost to the 5th tiebreaker which was BCS standings. Part of that input was the coaches poll.
The coaches were biased as hell, and we got shafted.
Luckily zero u got their clock cleaned in the championship game.
But BCS was not an accurate way to declare a winner.
We beat them and were tied. Head to head should have been first tiebreaker, as it is in most worlds.

Head to head was the first tiebreaker - but you can't use head to head in a 3 way tie situation where each team beat one of the other two.

 

[hookemhorb]

This past week help clarify the muddy picture.

Assuming we have 0 or 1 loss teams in the P4 conference playoffs. I think we will see all 8 teams in the playoffs. We get 1 team from the group of 5 so that leaves 3 open spots. With that said...

In the SEC:
Kentucky is out
Ole Miss is on the outside looking in. They will need help if they stand a chance
Georgia - win or lose this week and the pollsters will keep them in the top 10, but they will need to win out to make it.
Bama, Tenn, LSU, Missouri - They will settle this between themselves
Texas and aggies are sitting in catbird seat. Texas can afford 1 loss and still make the CFP.

In the ACC:
Clemson, Pitt, SMU - They will settle this between themselves
Miami, Duke, Syracuse - They will settle this between themselves
A 3rd team making the CFP? slim chance

In the Big 10:
Oregon - sitting in the catbird seat, need to go 1-1 against Illinois and Michigan. very doable.
Penn St - Buckeyes are the only big game left. Can lose that game and still make the playoffs.
Indiana, Nebraska, Illinois - will settle this between themselves.
OSU - need to win out, but a loss to Penn St only, can still squeak in, pollsters will keep them close.
Michigan - on the outside looking in. Must win out for a chance.

In the Big 12:
Iowa St and BYU - sitting in the catbird seat. If both are undefeated going into the championship game, will be tough for 3 Big 12 teams to make it to CFP. A loss to one of the 3 teams below and could possibly be the 3rd Big 12 team to make the CFP.
Kansas St, TTech, Arizona St - Need to win out.

Lots of games left and subject to change. It's hard to predict how the pollsters will take late or unexpected losses.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

I think you need to put Miami in that ACC top tier. They are undefeated.

 

[hookemhorb]

I think you need to put Miami in that ACC top tier. They are undefeated.

what I meant to say was that Miami, Duke and Syracuse play each other so 1 team will come out of those 3 and another team out of the other group since they play each other.

 

[Baron]

The Big10 likely has three teams right now that will qualify for the playoff, Ore, Oh St. and Penn St.
The SEC as well.
The ACC depends on how the season plays out. Two teams max. Clemson, Miami, Pitt or SMU. SMU only makes it if they win the CCG.
Big 12 gets one entry. The conference champion.
Boise for the G5 team.
Two spots left to be determined.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

The Big10 likely has three teams right now that will qualify for the playoff, Ore, Oh St. and Penn St.
The SEC as well.
The ACC depends on how the season plays out. Two teams max. Clemson, Miami, Pitt or SMU. SMU only makes it if they win the CCG.
Big 12 gets one entry. The conference champion.
Boise for the G5 team.
Two spots left to be determined.

It's possible that the Big 12 winner has two losses. That conference has parity now.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

The Big10 likely has three teams right now that will qualify for the playoff, Ore, Oh St. and Penn St.
The SEC as well.
The ACC depends on how the season plays out. Two teams max. Clemson, Miami, Pitt or SMU. SMU only makes it if they win the CCG.
Big 12 gets one entry. The conference champion.
Boise for the G5 team.
Two spots left to be determined.

I've heard sports pundits say that if Army keeps winning they think they could be put into the CFP. It's a stretch, but if you watch that team play you might agree. They are awesome this year.

 

[Baron]

It's possible that the Big 12 winner has two losses. That conference has parity now.

My answer to parity is
I watched it destroy the NFL.

 

[hookemhorb]

I've heard sports pundits say that if Army keeps winning they think they could be put into the CFP. It's a stretch, but if you watch that team play you might agree. They are awesome this year.

Army plays ND. If they win out, they deserve to be in the CFP. They'll have also beaten (possibly) an undefeated Navy team too.

 

[PTA]

It's possible that the Big 12 winner has two losses. That conference has parity now.

Which should be a good thing considering, but is actually sad in this case.

 

[Baron]

If you use this weeks AP poll the seeding would be:
1. Texas
2. Oregon
3. Miami
4. Iowa St
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12. Boise @ 5. Penn St
11. Tenn @ 6. Ohio St
10. Clemson @ 7. Georgia
9. LSU @ 8. Alabama

 

[hookemhorb]

This past weekend helped clarify the picture a bit and this upcoming weekend will help a little more. Of course, the polls will decide it in the end.

Texas' loss to UGA throws the SEC into a bit of chaos. It gives a lot of 1 loss teams hope. Here's something interesting--LSU and the aggies play this upcoming weekend. Both have an out of conference loss but are undefeated in conference. It's possible for the loser to still make the conference championship game. Now that would be interesting.

Bama's loss to Tennessee puts them behind the 8 ball. They're going to need help to get into the CFP.
Michigan, Nebraska, Ole Miss and Louisville are out.

The Navy-ND game is an important one. Loser is probably out of the CFP picture. Although it's possible for a 1 loss Navy team to make it as the highest ranked 5th conference winner but they have to hope Army is still ranked when they play at the end of the season. Right now Boise State is in the driver's seat for this honor.

Syracuse and Pitt play with Syracuse needing to win out or they are out of the CFP picture. Same probably goes for Pitt but if they win out with a loss to Syracuse, they could make the CCG. Pitt has SMU and Clemson on their schedule.

SMU-Duke loser is out of the CFP, winner has to win out to make it. Illinois plays Oregon. Illinois must win or is out.

Lots of football left to play.

 

[Baron]

In regards to the aggy LSU game. The winner has a legitimate shot at the CCG. If LSU wins the only possible stumbling block would be Alabama in Death Valley. If aggy wins Texas has to beat them to have a shot at the CCG, even if aggy loses at S Carolina.

 

[Sunkist]

In regards to the aggy LSU game. The winner has a legitimate shot at the CCG. If LSU wins the only possible stumbling block would be Alabama in Death Valley. If aggy wins Texas has to beat them to have a shot at the CCG, even if aggy loses at S Carolina.

What is our pref? I assume a&m winning so we control our destiny to get into the SEC championship?

Although I love Aggies losing and wouldn’t mind to just have one loss and be in the playoffs.

Still prefer to win the SEC championship!

 

[Sirhornsalot]

What is our pref? I assume a&m winning so we control our destiny to get into the SEC championship?

Although I love Aggies losing and wouldn’t mind to just have one loss and be in the playoffs.

Still prefer to win the SEC championship!

I want aggy to lose no matter what, no matter where, no matter how. Every week from yesterday to eternity.

My hope is that the entire aggy locker room develops severe diarrhea right before game time this week.

There is no situation possible that would entice me to prefer an aggy win.

I hope LSU wins 70-0

 

[dssl]

What is our pref? I assume a&m winning so we control our destiny to get into the SEC championship?

Although I love Aggies losing and wouldn’t mind to just have one loss and be in the playoffs.

Still prefer to win the SEC championship!

If Texas wins out and somehow doesn't make it to the CCG then they will still be in the playoffs and get the first round at home, which is probably a better scenario then having to play in Atlanta for the CCG.

Never root for aggy, not now not ever, and in this case an aggy loss does no harm.

 

[hookemhorb]

In regards to the aggy LSU game. The winner has a legitimate shot at the CCG. If LSU wins the only possible stumbling block would be Alabama in Death Valley. If aggy wins Texas has to beat them to have a shot at the CCG, even if aggy loses at S Carolina.

This is the type of scenario I'm interested in seeing what happens for the CFP. The team that losses will have 2 losses and might not make the CFP depending on how many SEC teams have 1 or 2 losses. How bad does a loss to an unranked team hurt you in the end?

Then you have the case where an undefeated in SEC conference team with 1 loss loses in the CCG. Do they get into the CFP over a 1 loss SEC or Big 10 team that didn't play in the CCG?

Too much football left to play, but this could really get interesting.

What do you do if say Army or Navy beats ND and then losses to the other team in their final game? A 1 loss Army or Navy team that beat ND and is a conference champion versus a 2 loss aggie team that lost to ND. Can you imagine the screaming from little brother if they got bumped for Army/Navy? . What a wonderful Christmas present.

 

[dssl]

Then you have the case where an undefeated in SEC conference team with 1 loss loses in the CCG. Do they get into the CFP over a 1 loss SEC or Big 10 team that didn't play in the CCG?

It will be very interesting to see how they treat the CCG loser, particularly when the score is close.

I know this isn't a popular opinion, but I think they should eliminate the CCG and go to a 16 team payoff.

 

[hookemhorb]

It will be very interesting to see how they treat the CCG loser, particularly when the score is close.

I know this isn't a popular opinion, but I think they should eliminate the CCG and go to a 16 team payoff.

Eliminating the CCG game would make more sense if everyone in your conference played each other. Otherwise how do you really know who is the best team? Especially if one team has a "weaker" schedule.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Eliminating the CCG game would make more sense if everyone in your conference played each other. Otherwise how do you really know who is the best team? Especially if one team has a "weaker" schedule.

I have to agree. The CCG jjust puts the SEC teams at a disadvantage, having to play an additional tough game just before the playoffs begin.

Chances are, you'll get that same matchup in the playoffs at times.

We could conceivably play Georgia three times this year. Thats riidiculous.