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Is that PK or Akina? Secondary was pretty good last year.
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Is that PK or Akina? Secondary was pretty good last year.
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Wasn't this a complaint last year as well? Hell, I'm getting to old to remember some things.
I don't think so. I'd say our secondary was a strength last year with Baron, Mukuba and Taafe as well as continuity with the secondary coaches.
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It probably doesn't help losing a 1st and a 2nd round draft pick to the NFL. Barron and Mukuba.
I didn't know what to expect as far as the game. The most disappointing thing for me is the lack of accountability. It looks like the same errors are happening and many times by the same players.
I didn't know what to expect as far as the game. The most disappointing thing for me is the lack of accountability. It looks like the same errors are happening and many times by the same players.
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Someone is responsible for this bend but don't break abomination. Ten yard cushions and only a three man rush. They run that about 25% of the time.
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It was not the secondary coverage that killed us as much as the linebackers not being able to cover the crossing routes and TE's, UGA utilized their TE's to perfection against our defense, the RPO and play action had our linebackers out of whack. 10 out of the 24 receptions made were by TE's and in the backfield, PK runs zone most of the time to prevent the big play over the top. The Defense cannot be on the field all game like they were on Saturday, the game was close until the offense started sputtering again and getting off the field quickly, you could have an NFL defense play and lose this game if they are on the field as long as our defense was in the 2nd half
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We should not be complaining about the Defense as much as why the offense was 0/6 on third down in the first half and 2/6 in the second half, guys the defense cannot win this game by itself, we have a solid Defense, our offense and special teams let us down, we had 23 rushing yards to their 128. Without an offense who can stay on the field and keep TOP closer to 50/50, the defense cannot do much
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Coach Akina didn't exactly set the world on fire in this inaugural season of his return to Austin. That was a cluster-fudge of blown assignments. What the heck??
While I'm on the defense - which has been really good under Coach K... someone's going to have to please explain the idea of playing so far off the receivers that if the other team is willing to march down the field on 7-10 yard passes, it is granted to them without any resistance. Georgia took what was being gifted them and we basically spotted them a 14 point lead. I even remember a 3rd and 10, where Georgia completed an 11 yard pass IN FRONT OF OUR COVERAGE!!!! Did it not cross anyone's mind that they might want to throw it just past the 1st down markers??? After it was 14-3 I noticed some Einstein must have suggested "let's take away the short pass" and BOOM! They punted like 5 times in a row. I'm telling you I just don't understand the logic!! This seems to be Coach K's proclivity.... I remember Gary Patterson calling this one thing out in his season in Austin. Coach K is a very good DC, but secondary seems to be his kryptonite. When we struggle on D, this seems to be where it takes place (blown assignments / miscommunication and loosie-goosey coverage).
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YES YES YES!!!! See my post above. Great minds....
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Well, we are now known for two things - thanks to a gleeful Kirk Herbstriet who loves to point these things out:
1. Very undisciplined. "The worst team in the country at getting penalized." -- he said.... or something close to that. If this isn't a coaching problem, then I don't know what is... I hate to say that.
2. Bend but don't break defense. This is a great reputation to have. I'm sure it sells wonderfully on the recruiting trail. But, I can't say it is unearned.
1. Very undisciplined. "The worst team in the country at getting penalized." -- he said.... or something close to that. If this isn't a coaching problem, then I don't know what is... I hate to say that.
2. Bend but don't break defense. This is a great reputation to have. I'm sure it sells wonderfully on the recruiting trail. But, I can't say it is unearned.
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I always thought Akina was a very good secondary coach. But he had a bad year... I think that is a fair statement.
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None of us a collegiate coaches, if we were, we would not be professional Keyboard coaches like we are. My guess is that, in this scheme, playing off the WR does a few things:
1. Keeps eyes on a QB who is obviously mobile, yes you can run tight man to man but then have to have a spy and that takes a player away from either putting pressure on the QB or losing an extra cover man, if you don't get to Gunnar, he will pick you apart and if we had run straight man to man tight coverage, he can run (pick your poison)
2. It protects against the deep ball, we were in this game till the ladder part of the game, playing tight opens up the downfield throws, it becomes a high-risk risk high-reward defense for us, if you lose, you lose big (see Texas defenses under Manny Diaz and Carl Reese), if Texas would have given up big plays earlier, we are looking at one of those insane 63-13 (2003 OU) and 55-17 games (2011 OU)
3. It keeps eyes on the backfield, although we got gashed on Defense, we accomplished one goal and that was we limited UGA on the ground, we did force some stops in the first half that were critical
1. Keeps eyes on a QB who is obviously mobile, yes you can run tight man to man but then have to have a spy and that takes a player away from either putting pressure on the QB or losing an extra cover man, if you don't get to Gunnar, he will pick you apart and if we had run straight man to man tight coverage, he can run (pick your poison)
2. It protects against the deep ball, we were in this game till the ladder part of the game, playing tight opens up the downfield throws, it becomes a high-risk risk high-reward defense for us, if you lose, you lose big (see Texas defenses under Manny Diaz and Carl Reese), if Texas would have given up big plays earlier, we are looking at one of those insane 63-13 (2003 OU) and 55-17 games (2011 OU)
3. It keeps eyes on the backfield, although we got gashed on Defense, we accomplished one goal and that was we limited UGA on the ground, we did force some stops in the first half that were critical
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Here's what my degree in keyboard coaching and officiating tells me:
A) Georgia marched down the field for two quick scores - primarily with a steady diet of passes in front of our coverage. B) Then, we clearly started lining up closer to the WRs and playing tighter coverage. C) Georgia punted on the next several posessions.
We have a very good group of DL and LBs. And it's for not when you gift the other team free 7 yard passes. I think your assessment is probably very accurate. But I exercise my keyboard rights to say that I can't stand this method of defense. And furthermore, it ought to be reserved for the directional type schools that don't have the level of athletes that we do.
We've seen this from PK so much that the soft coverage has to be by design to see what the offense is going to do and then to adjust from there. It's also his bend don't break mentality. It's very frustrating and I'm not sure why more opponents haven't taken advantage of this but this isn't the biggest issue with the team. A lot of times, I feel like it does end up giving 7 or more points to the talented opposing teams then adjustments are made.
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I agree it's not the biggest issue with the team. The defense has been better than that offense since Sark arrived in town (sans the first season which we had noone on campus who could rush the passer). Does anyone else find this odd?
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Also.... just think about the concept, "bend but don't break." It's ridiculous in my opinion. I have a few labels I'd like to suggest that I think are better than "bend but don't break defense":
* Death by 1,000 cuts defense.
* Free pass to the red zone defense.
* We won't dominate you defense.
* See you at our 20 defense.
* In your face - you never beat us deep defense.
* Your receivers scare me defense.
* I don't trust our DBs defense.
* Never three and out defense.
These capture what takes place when you gift the other team free yards if they can play catch.
The offensive genius hasn’t looked the part…
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With regard to #1 above, we're not the worst team in the country on penalties. We're the second worst. Get it right Herbstreet!!
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I actually heard on Bobby Burton and the Sunshine boys I think.... that last year we ranked lower than #100 when it comes to penalties (#1 being the least penalized team). This year we're even worse (second to last). This is a trend that is disturbing to say the least. Is there a better description than "undisciplined?" If so, I don't know what it is.
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