*****Game Thread: #20 Texas Longhorns vs #11 Oklahoma State Cowboys*****

[hookemhorb]

Honestly, I would have pulled Ewers and inserted Card at the beginning of the 4th. I understand a QB can be off one day. Maybe Card isn't off and can get us some points.

That is what I would have done. 

Maybe there is a good reason I've never been a coach, though. Sark did what he thought best.

If I had a 3 year or 4 year QB with more experience, I may have pulled Ewers even though we were still winning, but we don't. Card has shown he can play but how has he faired in a hostile environment? How many away games has he won? How much more playing experience does he really have than Ewers? a couple of quarters, if that much.

I can see why Sark stuck with Ewers. I may not agree with it but I can see why he stuck with Ewers. What I don't understand is the play calling.

 

[Johnny Depp]

If I had a 3 year or 4 year QB with more experience, I may have pulled Ewers even though we were still winning, but we don't. Card has shown he can play but how has he faired in a hostile environment? How many away games has he won? How much more playing experience does he really have than Ewers? a couple of quarters, if that much.

I can see why Sark stuck with Ewers. I may not agree with it but I can see why he stuck with Ewers. What I don't understand is the play calling.

Conference play over 50 attempts

Name       completions   PE rating     TD  INT  %   

Card  UT         71.9%       182.8            5     1   20%

Smith TT         69.4%      137               5     2  40%

Shapen BU     68.4%       163.6           8     4  50%

Duggan TCU  65.2%       166              11     1  .09%

Gabriel OU     63.9%       156.7            6     1  .16%

Dekkers IS     63.3%        127              5     4   80%

Morton TT     62.6%        128.4           4     1   25%

Martinez KS  62.2%        128.4           3     0    0%

Bean KAN      60%           173.6           9     3    33%

Daniels WV    56.6%        138.8           3     0    0%

Sanders OSU 55.1%         117              5     3    60%

Ewers UT        53.8%        136.1          9     4    44%  

 

[Baron]

Good Lord, you really are up to your nose in this QB pretend battle, aren't you.

By the way, its "tune" not "toon."

He's not my boy and yes he was horrendous and given he wasn't on I have no idea why we chose to pass 49 times.

There's nothing Card can do that Ewers can't do better, from what I've seen. That keeps you up at night. Not me. I just want to win.

Rec'd for tune over toon.

 

[Baron]

The mistake that was made in Stillwater, imho, was not leaning on our running game more.  However, when the chips were down, and we had 3 minutes to get downfield, Ewers was spot on. 
 

If Sanders catches that last pass, he should have a direct path to the end zone with his strength. 
 

Hook ‘em! 

You are correct. Out of 42 offensive plays in the second half only 13 were called runs. Why would Sark commit to the passing game so heavily when it was obvious Quinn was having an bad day?

 

[Baron]

So Card wasn't competing to be the starting QB? Seriously? He was just going through the motions? Where did you hear this?

I think drb means during the season like last year. I could be wrong though.

 

[Drb522]

So Card wasn't competing to be the starting QB? Seriously? He was just going through the motions? Where did you hear this?

During summer camp maybe.  But sark named Ewers the starter in fall camp.  To lose something, you had to have it first.

 

[Johnny Depp]

 

[Sirhornsalot]

During summer camp maybe.  But sark named Ewers the starter in fall camp.  To lose something, you had to have it first.

So if an opponent leads from start to finish, we don't really lose because we were never leading. It that how it works? lol

Two people competed for a job. One won the job, the other lost.

 

[UTfish]

Question for you, SHA. If the qb's index finger on his throwing hand is significantly injured, wouldn't that affect his feel for the ball?

Ewers said that the injury was not to blame for the high throws, but he didn't want to make excuses. If the injury was bad enough to lose the entire nail, I would think it would affect his grip, even if it is numbed up.

 

[Johnny Depp]

Question for you, SHA. If the qb's index finger on his throwing hand is significantly injured, wouldn't that affect his feel for the ball?

Ewers said that the injury was not to blame for the high throws, but he didn't want to make excuses. If the injury was bad enough to lose the entire nail, I would think it would affect his grip, even if it is numbed up.

Look at the picture on the video above, pretty sure he has a band aid on the finger?

 

[Drb522]

So if an opponent leads from start to finish, we don't really lose because we were never leading. It that how it works? lol

Two people competed for a job. One won the job, the other lost.

Once again, you have to have something to lose it.  I guess by your thoughts Charles Wright lost the starting job too?  Murphy?

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Once again, you have to have something to lose it.  I guess by your thoughts Charles Wright lost the starting job too?  Murphy?

But you have a problem with your logic. You had TWO QBs who were not the starter. They both competed for the same job. Neither had the job. They had to compete for it.

Neither "had something to lose something." So by your logic, neither QB won the job because they did not previously have the job, since neither QB lost the job because neither QB previously had the job.

Now that you've painted yourself in another corner, can we both just laugh at this together?

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Question for you, SHA. If the qb's index finger on his throwing hand is significantly injured, wouldn't that affect his feel for the ball?

Ewers said that the injury was not to blame for the high throws, but he didn't want to make excuses. If the injury was bad enough to lose the entire nail, I would think it would affect his grip, even if it is numbed up.

IMO, no, it would not affect his "feel" of the ball as that would be done by the inside of the fingers/hand. The finger injury comes into play when he grips the ball tightly to make a pass. I would think there is some pain every time he throws. I have had this injury myself before. It may be that he isn't gripping the ball as tightly as before which would explain some of his passes Saturday.

The skin beneath the nail will begin to toughen up and the pain will ease and then go away altogether. 

 

[Drb522]

But you have a problem with your logic. You had TWO QBs who were not the starter. They both competed for the same job. Neither had the job. They had to compete for it.

Neither "had something to lose something." So by your logic, neither QB won the job because they did not previously have the job, since neither QB lost the job because neither QB previously had the job.

Now that you've painted yourself in another corner, can we both just laugh at this together?

I think you’re just wanting to argue. Card should’ve played the 4th quarter saturday.  Or Sark should’ve leaned on the run harder.  Last comment on the subject for me.  Hookem

 

[Steelhammer]

So if an opponent leads from start to finish, we don't really lose because we were never leading. It that how it works? lol

Two people competed for a job. One won the job, the other lost.

SHA:Yes we lead thru all of 1-3 & partt of 4( 2nd half we basically  held on). I also now wander if Ewers really won job after Sark was so stubborn last game & really could make argument against Iwoa  State. I don't  care who starts but as of now Ewers, is not ready as Card wasn't  last year. I am still seeing same as last year,blowing leads in 2nd. I don't  like that Sark didn't  stay for Eyes,he is not good example for  young men.  

 

[Sirhornsalot]

I think you’re just wanting to argue. Card should’ve played the 4th quarter saturday.  Or Sark should’ve leaned on the run harder.  Last comment on the subject for me.  Hookem

I agree on both options. Seven carries in 2nd half doesn't cut it. And I've stated my position on pulling Ewers already.

We just disagree that a QB battle was won and lost. I'm not hung up on that. I did ask if we could just laugh and walk away. I didn't mean to laugh at you, but the tongue twister we had got ourselves into.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

SHA:Yes we lead thru all of 1-3 & partt of 4( 2nd half we basically  held on). I also now wander if Ewers really won job after Sark was so stubborn last game & really could make argument against Iwoa  State. I don't  care who starts but as of now Ewers, is not ready as Card wasn't  last year. I am still seeing same as last year,blowing leads in 2nd. I don't  like that Sark didn't  stay for Eyes,he is not good example for  young men.  

I'm going to disagree with your last sentence. Anyone who overcomes alcoholism and turns their life around is always a good example not only for young men, but society in general.

Sark has a careful line to walk. He doesn't want to cause insecurity and second-guessing. I don't think pulling him at Iowa would have solved much. But definitely think I would have pulled him in the 4th when things really went south against OSU.

Credit to Sark for approaching the subject before anyone else could, in public. That is how you want it to work. I don't like that it happened, but he didn't wait to be asked about it either.

 

[Drb522]

I agree on both options. Seven carries in 2nd half doesn't cut it. And I've stated my position on pulling Ewers already.

We just disagree that a QB battle was won and lost. I'm not hung up on that. I did ask if we could just laugh and walk away. I didn't mean to laugh at you, but the tongue twister we had got ourselves into.

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[java]

btw, Sark said in his pc that he should have called more run plays.

 

[Eastexhorn]

Sark did you considerpulling Ewers?  No!