*****Game Thread: #20 Texas Longhorns vs #11 Oklahoma State Cowboys*****

[Johnny Depp]

3-17 on 3rd down today. 

That's our offensive guru genius your are talking about.

 

[Eastexhorn]

I guess you've been wrong a million times. Did you see Red arguing with Ewers over only throwing to Worthy? He wanted to win so bad he was willing to stand up for it. 

It's the coaching.

Worthy is having an off year compared to last year. Maybe he had better passers last year. Maybe not.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

They scored 34 points while sucking.  A defense sucks and they give up points.  

This is true. To have as bad of a game as we had and to come that close to beating the #11 team in the nation at their place isn't anything to panic about.

I think Ewers just had his worst day as a QB. He got into a funk. We'll see if it spills over to the next game. But I don't think he ever thought he could have that bad of a day.

We'll see how he responds.

 

[Hiwood]

Worthy is having an off year compared to last year. Maybe he had better passers last year. Maybe not.

IMHO XW is not a disciplined route runner, he was targeted 16 times by QE and had only 4 receptions, and one of those was the touchdown where OSU blew the coverage and he was wide open.....so of the 12 misses how many were his fault and how many were QE fault, hard to tell some of the misses looked like he ran the wrong route and the one were he tripped in the end zone, that ball should have been caught

 

[Hiwood]

That's our offensive guru genius your are talking about.

I will stick up for Sark on this one, if Texas was 3-17 on 3rd down how many of those were because  Sark called the wrong play vs someone not executing the play properly, or missing an assignment. He called all the right plays  on the touchdowns they scored or guys executed the play the way it was designed

 

[Johnny Depp]

I will stick up for Sark on this one, if Texas was 3-17 on 3rd down how many of those were because  Sark called the wrong play vs someone not executing the play properly, or missing an assignment. He called all the right plays  on the touchdowns they scored or guys executed the play the way it was designed

Excuses. Stats are stats. You are who your record says you are. 

Sark is 10-10

7 of those losses we had double digit leads. All 3 this year. We are being outcoached.

 

[Sunkist]

What a letdown…especially when most thought maybe we turned the corner 

- how the hell can we play this sloppy with all of those penalties?  We shot ourselves in the foot so many times

- QE3 - WTF!  Arrogant?  Jittery feet?  Young?  O-line def wasn’t blocking well.  So many Missed throws but so many if not just as many bad WR routes ran.  Did these guys even practice?

-  TEs - please f-in block especially you billingsley

- RBs - every single one of you are studs.  We’d be shit without you

- WRs - not sure what routes y’all are running.  Your QB didn’t have a good day but he also threw some amazing balls that you didn’t seem to care to catch or adjust to. 

- Defenese - please learn to tackle and please safeties close the damn plays out even if you think one of the other guys may have their man down because they probably don’t.  Bench Jamison ASAP.   d-line and LBs held up well generally but that secondary is trash. 
 

The talent is there to be a top 10 team.  We are so close yet so far to being a very good team.   For every great play there is a dumb play and we just can’t win enough games playing this way. 
 

Play calling on O wasn’t amazing but it was definitely enough to win.

D - play calling was good enough to win but we have some knuckleheads on defense not finishing plays, bad tackling technique, bad angles.

another wasted year.  Such is the Texas football story,

 

[Drb522]

Some one posted Dabo went to a freshman QB and preserved he victory.

When freshman QB went in they were behind, he won the game.

I posted that, I also posted sark didn’t have the balls to pull Ewers.    But Ewers was not the same after Cobb hit him in the chest.  He was antsy and throwing the ball way before the route called for.  He didn’t get over the hit and felt pressure when there wasn’t any.  I believe dark was scared he’d be criticized for benching card to start with.  Ewers is the better QB, but he had a terrible day today.  

 

[Johnny Depp]

Their QB outplayed our QB. That was the game.

 For those still thinking this was an rare deal, that's QE's game. He throws before people are open, and if the D bumps the player off the route it's a total whiff. Sure it's a quick release, but that's how you get 3 int's. There is more where this came from.

 

[Drb522]

Dabo has stated he going withstarting QB. At least till he messes up again.

He also stated that the starter had a bad day, and sometimes the backup has the good day.  He claimed a team win.  Sark took another loss.  He could’ve tried card, and he still has PK calling the defense and passing game schemes.  This defense will get really sorry when Coburn and Sweat leave.  They’re the only two playing like they should…..and Ford.  Overshown is a flash, then a whiff.  36 should never see the field, 43 either.  21 and 28 better get their shit together in coverage, they are terrible.  Sorrel is solid, he’s progressing.  O goof Oo?  Is average.  We lack talent in places but really suck in scheme on the back end.  8-4 may be a stretch now.

 

[Drb522]

This is true. To have as bad of a game as we had and to come that close to beating the #11 team in the nation at their place isn't anything to panic about.

I think Ewers just had his worst day as a QB. He got into a funk. We'll see if it spills over to the next game. But I don't think he ever thought he could have that bad of a day.

We'll see how he responds.

Cobb drilled him on that one play.  Ewers stood and delivered the ball and took it, but after that hit he had antsy feet and was rushing throws.  When Bijan went on the wheel route it’s a TD if he waits one second to throw.  Instead he just flung it and missed.  Bijan wasn’t expecting the ball that soon.  It happens to young qbs sometimes.  He got rattled.  That’s when you bring in the older guy to settle things in and Taylor the rest of the game to his strengths.  You can affirm the starter is still the guy moving forward (Ala Dabo) and not create a controversy.  Sark showed no humility as a coach today during the game.  I haven’t watched the post game presser yet, but I’m sure he has a reason why he didn’t go to card if the media even has the nads to ask.  

 

[UT1983]

Their QB outplayed our QB. That was the game.

 For those still thinking this was an rare deal, that's QE's game. He throws before people are open, and if the D bumps the player off the route it's a total whiff. Sure it's a quick release, but that's how you get 3 int's. There is more where this came from.

OSU’s QB is a senior; UT’s a freshman. That’s worth noting. 
 

And yes, Card should have been given a shot to see how the offense would have performed with him having the reins. 

 

[Drb522]

OSU’s QB is a senior; UT’s a freshman. That’s worth noting. 
 

And yes, Card should have been given a shot to see how the offense would have performed with him having the reins. 

Spencer Sanders is 4-0 against UT.  That means he won as a freshman, sophomore, junior and senior.  Noted.

agree with your second paragraph 157%

 

[Johnny Depp]

OSU’s QB is a senior; UT’s a freshman. That’s worth noting. 

Nobody gets a pass for being young or inexperienced. Yes there is a benefit to having a 3-4 year starter.

Our 1st priority is a Big 12 title. Sark pissed that away today.

 

[Johnny Depp]

Does this team quit again after playing ugly and snatching defeat from the jaws of victory? 

What is left to play hard for?

 

[texbound]

Spencer Sanders is 4-0 against UT.  That means he won as a freshman, sophomore, junior and senior.  Noted.

agree with your second paragraph 157%

I don't think that is correct.  I know he lost one game.  I remember Joseph Ossai sacking on the final play in OT to win the game in Stillwater. That would've been his Sophomore year.

 

[texbound]

I completely understand and agree that the best thing Sark could've done to win the game was try and change it up with Card.  However, I kind of get what Sark was doing.  Had the Horns been down a couple of TDs then you go with Card.  The Horns we're still in this until the final play.  It appeared to me that Sark was trying to let Quinn figure it out and learn from it.  

It sucks that it cost them the game, but I believe it was a true growing pain that Quinn needed to experience.  Can you dig deep when things are going wrong and find a way? In all honestly, that is exactly what Quinn did on that final drive.  He made great passes and that last pass was right on the money.  Sucks it didn't end up better.  

Had Sark pulled Quinn, then the only thing he would've learned was that when things aren't going well you will get pulled.  Then he would be constantly looking over his shoulder everytime he makes a mistake.

Colt McCoy went through that, VY went through that and Sam went through that (also against OkSt). Call me a homer or whatever you want, but I believe it will pay off down the road.  I really do.  It really does suck that they lost, but you have break some eggs to get the omelet in the end.

Some others on here say that if this team didn't win out then it was not a successful season.  I don't believe that.  I wanted a split with Iowa St/OkSt and I want a 3-1 after the bye. That is 8-4 and I'm happy with that because they're growing.  I'm still not happy with the defense though, but O didn't help them out today in the 2nd half.  Ok, tell me how stupid I am and that i'm settling. 

On a personal note, I went through something similar in my coaching life when I had young players that needed to learn.  Sure, we took some lumps but it turned out good in the long game.  Not saying that is what will happen, but I get it.  Yes, we suck until we don't.  Ok, now tell me how stupid I am and that I'm settling.

 

[MBHORNSFAN]

The data is becoming clear that Sark is probably not going to make it. 

 

[Drb522]

I don't think that is correct.  I know he lost one game.  I remember Joseph Ossai sacking on the final play in OT to win the game in Stillwater. That would've been his Sophomore year.

Yes, you are correct.  I just read that somewhere and can’t find it now.  It said he won by 6, 7, and 8 points the last 3 years against Texas.  
 

being a freshman isn’t the excuse.  165 rushing yards in the first half and you abandon the run game because mason made an adjustment.  Can dark not counter an adjustment in the fly?

 

[Drb522]

I completely understand and agree that the best thing Sark could've done to win the game was try and change it up with Card.  However, I kind of get what Sark was doing.  Had the Horns been down a couple of TDs then you go with Card.  The Horns we're still in this until the final play.  It appeared to me that Sark was trying to let Quinn figure it out and learn from it.  

It sucks that it cost them the game, but I believe it was a true growing pain that Quinn needed to experience.  Can you dig deep when things are going wrong and find a way? In all honestly, that is exactly what Quinn did on that final drive.  He made great passes and that last pass was right on the money.  Sucks it didn't end up better.  

Had Sark pulled Quinn, then the only thing he would've learned was that when things aren't going well you will get pulled.  Then he would be constantly looking over his shoulder everytime he makes a mistake.

Colt McCoy went through that, VY went through that and Sam went through that (also against OkSt). Call me a homer or whatever you want, but I believe it will pay off down the road.  I really do.  It really does suck that they lost, but you have break some eggs to get the omelet in the end.

Some others on here say that if this team didn't win out then it was not a successful season.  I don't believe that.  I wanted a split with Iowa St/OkSt and I want a 3-1 after the bye. That is 8-4 and I'm happy with that because they're growing.  I'm still not happy with the defense though, but O didn't help them out today in the 2nd half.  Ok, tell me how stupid I am and that i'm settling. 

On a personal note, I went through something similar in my coaching life when I had young players that needed to learn.  Sure, we took some lumps but it turned out good in the long game.  Not saying that is what will happen, but I get it.  Yes, we suck until we don't.  Ok, now tell me how stupid I am and that I'm settling.

If you pull a kid and that’s all he learns that is a coaching issue.  Watch Dabo yesterday.