GAME THREAD: Texas Longhorns @ West Virginia Mountaineers

[J.B. TexasEx]

His mistakes were in game coaching.  How do you fix that with recruiting and spring ball?  Defensively can be fixed, but PK will need to study multiple schemes to utilize

The fact we're talking about how our $1MM DC needs to "study" multiple schemes is concerning. Shouldn't he already know how to best utilize his personnel as an expert in his field? This defense was atrocious much of the season. Yeah, the many 3 & outs on offense didn't help 'em, either. 

 

[Johnny Depp]

Sark is the author of the best offense in college football history

You spelled Saban wrong.

 

[NEOkHorn]

10 hours ago, DMAC said:

I wonder if Sark has tried the fat little girlfriends tactic. ?

Not sure we can use the fat girlfriend in today's culture but maybe we could lock a few in the ice house or wherever he was supposed to have put Craig. 

Did I say that in my outside voice?

 

[Eastexhorn]

got damn you're old. lol Did you meet Dana Bible? lol

No on Bible Yes on beeing old thats why my patinence is getting thin with coaches.Any can coach Alabama type players. But takes real coaching to beat another coach then take his players and beat yours!

First year coaches have to take what they have and adapt. This year the defensive coaches did not do this, so here we are.

Agtee on some one saying no way to turn roster around in one year. Better chance however since you get an extra 7 spots.

Next two or so months should provide food for boards to hash over. Hookem.

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

You spelled Saban wrong.

Now you're being argumentative just for the sake of being a contrarian. 

Even casual football fans know Saban's expertise is as a defensive coach. Sark was and is a fine offensive coordinator. Especially with a talent advantage. Unfortunately, we don't have one.

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

No on Bible Yes on beeing old thats why my patinence is getting thin with coaches.Any can coach Alabama type players. But takes real coaching to beat another coach then take his players and beat yours!

First year coaches have to take what they have and adapt. This year the defensive coaches did not do this, so here we are.

Agtee on some one saying no way to turn roster around in one year. Better chance however since you get an extra 7 spots.

Next two or so months should provide food for boards to hash over. Hookem.

Bum Phillips said this about Don Shula, "He can take your'n and beat his'n and take his'n and beat your'n."

 

[Johnny Depp]

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After the last two TD drives for Texas, the outcome of this game may matter less than Hudson Card getting comfortable and finally looking like the No. 2 dual-threat QB in the 2020 class.



 


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[Johnny Depp]

 

[Johnny Depp]

Now you're being argumentative just for the sake of being a contrarian. 

Even casual football fans know Saban's expertise is as a defensive coach. Sark was and is a fine offensive coordinator. Especially with a talent advantage. Unfortunately, we don't have one.

Saban won before Sark, and he's winning after him. Major Applewhite says hello.

 

[Drb522]

The fact we're talking about how our $1MM DC needs to "study" multiple schemes is concerning. Shouldn't he already know how to best utilize his personnel as an expert in his field? This defense was atrocious much of the season. Yeah, the many 3 & outs on offense didn't help 'em, either. 

Very concerning 

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Sark had the best talent in college football that money could buy at Bama.
 

Texas wasn’t in the crapper with Herman.  It wasn’t a great place, but it wasn’t in the crapper.  Sark has coached this team to 4-7, most likely 4-8.  There’s no way around it.  He’s here, he’s responsible.  
 

When Manny Diaz’ defense was getting gutted by a 7th year qb with 3 knee braces in Provo, His head coach couldn’t give him advice on how to adjust the defense.  Mack Brown was clueless on defense.  This is the same situation we’re seeing this year.  Your head coach should be able to step in and make suggestions to his DC if they are struggling.  Obviously sark knows little about defense or chose to just let PK figure it out.  Either way it didn’t get fixed and you see square pegs and round holes still.  
give me a HC that is based in defense.  You have to be able to stop somebody first and foremost.  Then they can use their expertise to help the OC if the need arises. 
 

im willing to give sark next  year to show he can adjust.  There’s no way he can flip the roster in one recruiting class enough to have “his” guys to be able to do what he and PK want.  There will need to be adjusting their philosophy and coaching style even next year.  If they can’t, then it’s restart or wait til they completely flip the roster, which will be year 4.  Can you guys handle losing 6-8 games for a couple more years?   
 

listen, I wasn’t expecting 10-2 this year.  I was actually skeptical of the sark hire.  But after watching the game he called against ULaLa I thought this could be ok.  He worked around the OL and set the offense up for success.  Then Arkansas happened.  He had some Charlie string blank stares that night.  His OL was exposed for all of college football.  He rebounded nicely with an easy rice game and by the time OU came around it looked like the offense was clicking.  Til the second half when he leaned on the atrocious OL for the entire 3rd qtr, which is where the spiral started.    This team could easily be 8-4/7-5 at worst with just a few adjustments.  Don’t take your foot off the gas first and foremost.  Casey plays with much more obtuse Cw when the offense is aggressive and not in game management situation.  
 

im kind of tired of talking about this honestly. 

lol, well, that was a lot to digest (or a lot to type). 

As I've said for weeks and weeks, the ULa win was fool's gold. They narrowly escaped Nicholls State the very next week . . . at home.

Arkansas is a solid, well-coached team with seasoned veterans sprinkled throughout. That is precisely where we want Texas to be. Due to what has happened to the 2018 and 2019 classes, we don't have anything close to that. I agree Arkie exposed us (OL in particular) and so will Bama when we play them early next season if we don't do something about it. I think Sark understands the major, major issue this is.

The spiral started when two things happened – 1) Thompson injured his thumb and wasn't the same after that, and 2) Denzel Okafor was lost for the season. After those two things happened, our offense just fell apart. Now, Okafor is from Lewisville, where I reside. I like the kid but don't view him as even average OL. But we certainly changed there once he was gone.

I enjoyed your post. And no, you don't have to respond if you don't want to. lol

 

[Sirhornsalot]

You spelled Saban wrong.

No, you just didn't realize Saban is a defensive coach before you commented. He played DB at Kent St. and was a DC before he came to be a HC.

 

[DMAC]

Interesting tidbits on PK.  So far this year his defense is ranked 107th.   Like I said earlier though how does someone who has had success and ranked top 15 defenses consistently throughout different rosters all of a sudden forget how to coach and prepare defenses?  This just defies all logic. 

There are countless stats and anecdotes that support Kwiatkowski’s resume as one of the best defensive coordinators in the sport. In his seven years as the Husky DC, he has had the #1 defense in the Pac-12 five times. In his 11 years as a DC (at UW or Boise St.), he has had defenses ranked in the top-15 nationally eight times. Even in an offense-first era in college football, his defenses have an active steak of 75 straight games without giving up more than 35 points. He is not known as a top-end recruiter, but he has still sent 10 defensive players to the NFL in the first two rounds of the draft during his UW tenure.

https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2021/1/20/22241034/the-end-of-the-pete-kwiatkowski-era-washington-huskies-football

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Saban won before Sark, and he's winning after him. Major Applewhite says hello.

What does any of that have to do with what @North Texas Golfersaid or was talking with you about? You seem to change subjects on a dime every time somebody corrects you. You might simply check what you're about to say, before saying it instead of the rabbit chasing.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

The bad play you cite might have something to do with coaching. Otherwise why pay millions for a coaching staff if they’re so inconsequential?  I get what you’re saying.... but I think we have a little better talent than 4-8.  

Rather than scattershooting, why not just drop your number? What record would have fit this roster in your mind?

Saban was the highest paid coach when he started at Bama. He went 6-6. I'm sure they were better than a 6-6 team to MANY Bama fans. They should have let him go, you know, and save the millions. lol

 

[General Hooker]

Interesting tidbits on PK.  So far this year his defense is ranked 107th.   Like I said earlier though how does someone who has had success and ranked top 15 defenses consistently throughout different rosters all of a sudden forget how to coach and prepare defenses?  This just defies all logic. 

https://www.uwdawgpound.com/2021/1/20/22241034/the-end-of-the-pete-kwiatkowski-era-washington-huskies-football

I know we need to give Sark and his coaches at least another year, probably 2 more. I also know we need to give Manny Kwiatkowski another year to recruit and implement his defense. But it is very concerning that he was unable to fix the run defense even against piss poor competition. Was there a team that didn't drive through, or fly through this defense at critical times in the fourth quarter? I guess we held UL and Rice at bay. Even Kansas was able to cut through the defense for critical TD's in the 3rd and 4th quarter, and OT. Yes it doesn't make sense that MK forgot how to coach D. It make no sense that he can't coach this team to beat even crappy competition. I find his performance this year to rate an F grade. He needs to show us something by holding Alabama below 60 next year. Hell, hopefully he can hold UTSA below 60 next year.

 

[83Dee]

Rather than scattershooting, why not just drop your number? What record would have fit this roster in your mind?

Saban was the highest paid coach when he started at Bama. He went 6-6. I'm sure they were better than a 6-6 team to MANY Bama fans. They should have let him go, you know, and save the millions. lol

Every time you respond to me, you seem to be under the illusion that I think Sark should be fired.  I have not said that nor do I think it.

I hope there’s a master plan.  I hope Sark becomes Saban-like here at Texas. 
 

To answer your question directly, the talent on this roster should clearly win 4.2 games out of 12. 

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Every time you respond to me, you seem to be under the illusion that I think Sark should be fired.  I have not said that nor do I think it.

I hope there’s a master plan.  I hope Sark becomes Saban-like here at Texas. 
 

To answer your question directly, the talent on this roster should clearly win 4.2 games out of 12. 

lol, 4.2? Does NTG know you're trying to take over nerd status here? lol

I think there is a master plan. I think thats why Sark met with a group of admins/alums before accepting the job, laying out what may be ahead and asking them to agree to a long-term plan. They did. He accepted.

I think Sark evaluated the program well but clearly didn't see the mudslide that the OL would be.

 

[DMAC]

It make no sense that he can't coach this team to beat even crappy competition.

WV is ranked last in rushing offense in the Big 12 but you couldnt see that Saturday.  Whatever the reasons are we seem to cure the other teams offensive woes.   Its frustrating.

 

[dillohorn]

I know we need to give Sark and his coaches at least another year, probably 2 more. I also know we need to give Manny Kwiatkowski another year to recruit and implement his defense. But it is very concerning that he was unable to fix the run defense even against piss poor competition. Was there a team that didn't drive through, or fly through this defense at critical times in the fourth quarter? I guess we held UL and Rice at bay. Even Kansas was able to cut through the defense for critical TD's in the 3rd and 4th quarter, and OT. Yes it doesn't make sense that MK forgot how to coach D. It make no sense that he can't coach this team to beat even crappy competition. I find his performance this year to rate an F grade. He needs to show us something by holding Alabama below 60 next year. Hell, hopefully he can hold UTSA below 60 next year.

The UT bench is loaded with a bunch of crappy players. Jesus couldn't salvage this season.