GAME THREAD: Texas Longhorns @ West Virginia Mountaineers

[DMAC]

Your best post today.  PK had a great resume, but sometimes you don’t get to see what a coach can do unless he sees change.  I believe his system would fare better if he had the type talent needed to employ it.  Fitting square pegs into round holes don’t work though.  If he doesn’t have the right kind of pegs, he should adapt to use the ones he has.  He wasn’t able to do such.  And his back end was left hung out to dry.  Soft cushion, poor safety help and no pressure up front killed Texas defensively.  
 

i wasnt real excited especially after they decided to let Chris Ash go.  After seeing the defensive progress with the talent on hand it only made sense to me for him to be asked to stay.  Sark didn’t like him so here we sit, 4-7, poor scheme for the personnel, lack of adjustment

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I agree PK defense isnt working.  I would like a reporter to ask why he insists on running it every week.  Rumor is Sark is making changes this off season we shall see.

I saw some improvement from the Ash defense but statistically speaking it wasnt much better than Orlandos.  I think total defense went up 2 or 3 ranks nationally between Orlandos last year and Ashes first year.

 

[Drb522]

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I agree PK defense isnt working.  I would like a reporter to ask why he insists on running it every week.  Rumor is Sark is making changes this off season we shall see.

I saw some improvement from the Ash defense but statistically speaking it wasnt much better than Orlandos.  I think total defense went up 2 or 3 ranks nationally between Orlandos last year and Ashes first year.

chocolate chip

Improvement is improvement.  Fundamentals was the most noticeable under ash.  I’d also rather has these same players in Ash’s second year being utilized in a better fit than what we are seeing now

 

[DMAC]

Improvement is improvement.  Fundamentals was the most noticeable under ash.  I’d also rather has these same players in Ash’s second year being utilized in a better fit than what we are seeing now

Agree when it comes to PK but the players have not played their best either.  Its pretty evident.  Some will blame the coaches for that and that is their job to get this team ready but I am sick of watching players go through the motions with what appears to be a half ass effort, yawning on the sidelines, laughing on the team bus after getting asses kicked.  Some of these guys dont give a shit if we lose.  No pride, no heart, whatever you want to call it.  If they are not buying into the coach then leave and let him get guys that buy into it.  So yea I put a lot of this on the players.

 

[DMAC]

I wonder if Sark has tried the fat little girlfriends tactic. ?

 

[Sirhornsalot]

I have seen worse Horns team 65+ years ago( listened on radio ). 

got damn you're old. lol Did you meet Dana Bible? lol

 

[MBHORNSFAN]

Hoping for the best but we all know how this ends. I suspect November 2023 will be the end. Hope I'm wrong. 

 

[Mac-7]

Texas is not every team. Our senior and junior classes took losses that no other school did. So yea, Texas is a big exception.

Agree, the OL cost us dearly.

But to put a number on it and think it proves one thing or another is just nonsense. What if the number were 6? Or 5? Where's your line?

There shouldn't be because the number doesn't tell the story.

We don't have a good team. We're not talented. And we have some prima donnas who don't play hard. Outside of putting on a uniform and taking the ball himself, I'm not sure why a number points to a coaching situation.

I wouldn't hold your breath on Sark proving anything to you. He has enough skins on the wall to not have to. A second-half coaching problem when thats never happened before? Thats not coaching, thats a player problem.

Sark's not perfect by any stretch, but we don't have a bench with players who are better than who is starting. We're more or less stuck with this situation until the next game is over.

“We don't have a good team.”

I agree

but we cant blame 0-7 all on the players

 

[Sirhornsalot]

“We don't have a good team.”

I agree

but we cant blame 0-7 all on the players

Can you spin straw into gold? Is the spinning machine broke because it can't make gold from straw?

 

[Mac-7]

I wouldn't hold your breath on Sark proving anything to you. He has enough skins on the wall to not have to.

Thats uncalled for

its true that one person’s opinion - mine for instance - means nothing to a man who is guaranteed to walk away with millions of dollars whether he meets or does not meet expectations

but reputation does matter

the entire Longhorn nation is watching and most are not as patient as you 

 

[Mac-7]

Can you spin straw into gold? Is the spinning machine broke because it can't make gold from straw?

An alleged offensive guru like Sark should be able to do better than 0-7

and next season I hope he does much better to justify all the money and the hype

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Thats uncalled for

its true that one person’s opinion - mine for instance - means nothing to a man who is guaranteed to walk away with millions of dollars whether he meets or does not meet expectations

but reputation does matter

the entire Longhorn nation is watching and most are not as patient as you 

Totally called for. It was your arrogance, not mine.

It just seemed a little hopeless if you truly thought Sark would prove anything to you. Sark has forgotten more about football than you and I combined will ever know. So I don't think he would feel compelled to answer to you or me. He can make millions anywhere he goes. So its not about money. It's just why would he listen to you and I?

I'm not a patient person. I think it was our fault for thinking he'd just walk in and we'd contend for titles. We're seemingly not learning this, but it showed how little we knew about the shape of this program. I simply began tempering my expectations as I saw what was unfolding, and how it was unfolding.

Let them fire Sark. lol To this point, we've already dug our grave. We might as well just crawl right in. Our head coaching job will be a revolving door that few will care to enter. We can't just money-whip people anymore.

Sark did have some idea that this was a project. This is why he held off taking the job until after he had an agreement from our admins/alumni brass that they would let him rebuild this the right way.

To now, we've just never realized what that meant or how bad this is.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

An alleged offensive guru like Sark should be able to do better than 0-7

and next season I hope he does much better to justify all the money and the hype

Not if you're trying to spin straw into gold.

I think we can drop the "alleged" term here. Sark is the author of the best offense in college football history. lol Alleged. lol

Sark didn't put this program in the crapper. That was done before he got here. But go ahead, fire him. The nation isn't laughing hard enough.

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

Hoping for the best but we all know how this ends. I suspect November 2023 will be the end. Hope I'm wrong. 

Yeah, we've seen this movie before and it doesn't end well. But, we know it'll probably be at least two more years. In the meantime, I hope Sark weeds out the prima donnas and malcontents for both his and the program's sake. My guess is PK and a couple of defensive coaches will be sacrificed. Perhaps the whole defensive staff if Sark hires a big time DC and gives him total control?

What a disappointing season. I saw very little to get excited about, other than Bijan and Xavier. Maybe flashes from Casey when 100%. Nothing from the defense. 

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Yeah, we've seen this movie before and it doesn't end well. But, we know it'll probably be at least two more years. In the meantime, I hope Sark weeds out the prima donnas and malcontents for both his and the program's sake. My guess is PK and a couple of defensive coaches will be sacrificed. Perhaps the whole defensive staff if Sark hires a big time DC and gives him total control?

What a disappointing season. I saw very little to get excited about, other than Bijan and Xavier. Maybe flashes from Casey when 100%. Nothing from the defense. 

What TFB is saying is that there are probably two defensive coaches who will be replaced. They don't think PK will be one of them. They also say that nobody has made any type of demand of Sark to fire anybody. So this will be entirely his thing. If PK is fired, this team will see its fourth DC in four years.

Casey was decent back when his hand wasn't injured. But he really stunk up the place the last two games. Some of that was decision-making, not a hurt thumb.

Card had one good pass today that I saw, the TD to Worthy.

So I don't think our QB is on the roster right now. I think Sark will explore the portal. He really should.

Bijan needs an OL, bad. Imagine the type of season he would have had with a decent OL? Sark needs at least three OL from the portal – solid, proven guys, and to bring home at least two OL from recruiting class who are good enough to start. Banks comes to mind for one.

Sark puts together a very good portal class filling needs, and does the same with recruiting, things can change for the better sooner rather than later.

And the DL . . . need at least one difference maker on the interior. We also need a pass rusher who can cause chaos similar to how Joseph Ossai did.

I would start over at safety. Worse pair we've had in some time.

CBs coming up should work for us. Barron and the kid from Cali are very talented. We're not very good there right now though.

We have some basic parts to work with. Sark needs to infuse some real talent and hunger over the off season.

 

[Mac-7]

Sark didn't put this program in the crapper. That was done before he got here. But go ahead, fire him. The nation isn't laughing hard enough.

You are becoming way too emotional

I’ve made it clear that I’m not calling for Sark to be fired 

that would be crazy

but to expect more from Sark and his staff than we’ve seen so far?

you betcha

 

[Sirhornsalot]

You are becoming way too emotional

I’ve made it clear that I’m not calling for Sark to be fired 

that would be crazy

but to expect more from Sark and his staff than we’ve seen so far?

you betcha

Fair enough. I think most of the error is in the early perception we all had of this team, and perhaps Sark was guilty of the same thing.

I think if he'd known how bad we really were along the OL, he'd done something in the portal.

 

[Mac-7]

Fair enough. I think most of the error is in the early perception we all had of this team, and perhaps Sark was guilty of the same thing.

I think if he'd known how bad we really were along the OL, he'd done something in the portal.

He will have a chance to correct his mistakes during the next 8 months

but he cant get by with 6-4, followed by 7-5, followed by 8-4 without getting booed out of Austin

 

[J.B. TexasEx]

What TFB is saying is that there are probably two defensive coaches who will be replaced. They don't think PK will be one of them. They also say that nobody has made any type of demand of Sark to fire anybody. So this will be entirely his thing. If PK is fired, this team will see its fourth DC in four years.

Casey was decent back when his hand wasn't injured. But he really stunk up the place the last two games. Some of that was decision-making, not a hurt thumb.

Card had one good pass today that I saw, the TD to Worthy.

So I don't think our QB is on the roster right now. I think Sark will explore the portal. He really should.

Bijan needs an OL, bad. Imagine the type of season he would have had with a decent OL? Sark needs at least three OL from the portal – solid, proven guys, and to bring home at least two OL from recruiting class who are good enough to start. Banks comes to mind for one.

Sark puts together a very good portal class filling needs, and does the same with recruiting, things can change for the better sooner rather than later.

And the DL . . . need at least one difference maker on the interior. We also need a pass rusher who can cause chaos similar to how Joseph Ossai did.

I would start over at safety. Worse pair we've had in some time.

CBs coming up should work for us. Barron and the kid from Cali are very talented. We're not very good there right now though.

We have some basic parts to work with. Sark needs to infuse some real talent and hunger over the off season.

I doubt we're gonna find any real difference-makers on the DL from the portal, but I hope I'm wrong. The guys we got this year - Thornton and Davis - are JAGs. 

 

[Drb522]

Not if you're trying to spin straw into gold.

I think we can drop the "alleged" term here. Sark is the author of the best offense in college football history. lol Alleged. lol

Sark didn't put this program in the crapper. That was done before he got here. But go ahead, fire him. The nation isn't laughing hard enough.

Sark had the best talent in college football that money could buy at Bama.
 

Texas wasn’t in the crapper with Herman.  It wasn’t a great place, but it wasn’t in the crapper.  Sark has coached this team to 4-7, most likely 4-8.  There’s no way around it.  He’s here, he’s responsible.  
 

When Manny Diaz’ defense was getting gutted by a 7th year qb with 3 knee braces in Provo, His head coach couldn’t give him advice on how to adjust the defense.  Mack Brown was clueless on defense.  This is the same situation we’re seeing this year.  Your head coach should be able to step in and make suggestions to his DC if they are struggling.  Obviously sark knows little about defense or chose to just let PK figure it out.  Either way it didn’t get fixed and you see square pegs and round holes still.  
give me a HC that is based in defense.  You have to be able to stop somebody first and foremost.  Then they can use their expertise to help the OC if the need arises. 
 

im willing to give sark next  year to show he can adjust.  There’s no way he can flip the roster in one recruiting class enough to have “his” guys to be able to do what he and PK want.  There will need to be adjusting their philosophy and coaching style even next year.  If they can’t, then it’s restart or wait til they completely flip the roster, which will be year 4.  Can you guys handle losing 6-8 games for a couple more years?   
 

listen, I wasn’t expecting 10-2 this year.  I was actually skeptical of the sark hire.  But after watching the game he called against ULaLa I thought this could be ok.  He worked around the OL and set the offense up for success.  Then Arkansas happened.  He had some Charlie string blank stares that night.  His OL was exposed for all of college football.  He rebounded nicely with an easy rice game and by the time OU came around it looked like the offense was clicking.  Til the second half when he leaned on the atrocious OL for the entire 3rd qtr, which is where the spiral started.    This team could easily be 8-4/7-5 at worst with just a few adjustments.  Don’t take your foot off the gas first and foremost.  Casey plays with much more obtuse Cw when the offense is aggressive and not in game management situation.  
 

im kind of tired of talking about this honestly. 

 

[Drb522]

He will have a chance to correct his mistakes during the next 8 months

but he cant get by with 6-4, followed by 7-5, followed by 8-4 without getting booed out of Austin

His mistakes were in game coaching.  How do you fix that with recruiting and spring ball?  Defensively can be fixed, but PK will need to study multiple schemes to utilize