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Tired of hearing the argument of coaching vs players vs talent.  IMO a football team is a reflection of the men that are leading and teaching them, the coaches.  Texas has talent, not Bama talent, but not Kansas talent.  Talent alone does not win games as we have just seen.  Coaching is the difference.  Why do you think Bama has been elite for so long.  That's right Nick Saban's coaching.  Everything you see from Alabama is what Saban has instituted.  You could say the same of Urban Meyer minus his dubious ethics.  So IMO it is coaching because it is their responsibility for the scheme, development, depth chart, discipline, culture, etc...  As the head goes so goes the entire body.  
Well said again. Pretty sure that Bama had talent when Saban took over as well. Maybe not Bama talent of today but still pretty good talent. It wasn't until Saban remade the culture at Bama that they became the team we all know today. Granted we will not reach the 7 wins he did in his first year but it could be argued that this Texas culture has been a dumpster fire longer than Bama was when he took over. 

 
You are correct, neither Saban or Meyer wanted the job.  I will say that an absurd amount of money could have possibly lured them here but its likely an amount that the admin could not live with as I don't think they are as concerned about winning as the fans are.  My only point was that we needed to make every effort to hire a HC that has won a natty as a HC and not an assistant.  It seems that this has never worked out for us.  Who knows maybe a Dave Aranda type is out there and could be successful.  Yes, I guess it is a crap shoot at best but I do think that you can better your odds by going with someone that has done it. 

The biggest criteria in my mind beside the natty is that coaches ability to command the room.  To bend the will of others to his.  That is what I think we need.  Charlie, Tom, and not even Sark appear to have that trait.  Am I wrong?

 
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You are correct, neither Saban or Meyer wanted the job.  I will say that an absurd amount of money could have possibly lured them here but its likely an amount that the admin could not live with as I don't think they are as concerned about winning as the fans are.  My only point was that we needed to make every effort to hire a HC that has won a natty as a HC and not an assistant.  It seems that this has never worked out for us.  Who knows maybe a Dave Aranda type is out there and could be successful.  Yes, I guess it is a crap shoot at best but I do think that you can better your odds by going with someone that has done it. 
Please list your top 3 coaches that have won national titles and you think could come to Texas.

I mean, maybe we should've hired Mack away from UNC... It worked the last time didn't it ?!

 
Okay I get the sarcasm.  There are currently 5 head coaches with a natty.  Of those 5 there are 2 that you would have to hold your nose on hiring because of their ethics.  Of the 3 remaining I believe that we could find 1 that could be bought given enough money.  

No one on this board or even the smartest minds in college football can guarantee that any coach will win a natty.  I am going with those that don't have to prove they can because they already did.  If we cannot get one of those coaches then you go with the coach that has a proven record of winning conference championships.  

At the time of the Sarkesian hire there might not have been a better choice but this goes back to Charlie and Herman as well.  Texas has always had issues finding the right head coach minus a couple of good ones.  

 
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Sark saying he sees a path for 33 new scholarship players next season.

Almost 40% of the roster turned over.
A necessary move. My only question about this (which I don't think anyone has asked) is why didn't he do this last season?

Did he just want a chance to see everyone play for a year to see what we had? He couldv'e gone back and watched game tape, but maybe he wanted a chance to coach them all himself. 

 
At the time of the Sarkesian hire there might not have been a better choice but this goes back to Charlie and Herman as well.  Texas has always had issues finding the right head coach minus a couple of good one
Hard to believe this has proven so accurate for such a prestigious university but it sadly true.

A necessary move. My only question about this (which I don't think anyone has asked) is why didn't he do this last season?

Did he just want a chance to see everyone play for a year to see what we had? He couldv'e gone back and watched game tape, but maybe he wanted a chance to coach them all himself. 
Not sure he had time when he took over to turn that much of the roster over and still field a team that could compete with Kansas...wait, we still can't.?

 
Sark has lost the locker room long ago. He lost the fans. Even the forums are quiet. Social media and Youtube are full of Sark dirty laundry. 

 These players see things with the same eyes we do. They have the same doubts about schemes and play calls  and personnel moves as we do.

 I'd imagine Sark might finish out of the top 10 if he had a online football tournament against his players. They aren't stupid. They see we have been outcoached.

 
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They see we have been outcoached.
 
The way I see this.  There are obviously 3 choices.  Coaches fault, players fault, or Both.

If its the coaches then Strong, Herman, and Sark all suck.  This is definitely plausible.  So its all on the coaches for the Kansas game?  I remember Acho saying a few years ago there was absolutely no excuse for letting Kansas score 48 points in DKR.  That was a different coach as well.  To be fair different players too.  He also mentioned the players didnt come out ready to fight they just went through the motions.  Kansas is the only team that has scored 48+ at DKR twice.  OSU didnt even come close.  What does that tell you?

This team packed it in after OSU loss.  Its Sark's responsibility bottom line but because our LT Jones cant block and directly responsible for 2 turnovers does that mean Flood sucks too? 

There is an argument that has been mentioned here many times.  I guess all these coaches forgot how to coach once they got to Texas.  Flood spent 2 years at Alabama but somehow its either his doing that Jones cant block anyone or maybe just maybe Jones sucks at pass blocking or maybe Jones doesnt care to block anyone and isnt afraid of the bench.  You pick one

 
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Sark has lost the locker room long ago. He lost the fans. Even the forums are quiet. Social media and Youtube are full of Sark dirty laundry. 

 These players see things with the same eyes we do. They have the same doubts about schemes and play calls  and personnel moves as we do.

 I'd imagine Sark might finish out of the top 10 if he had a online football tournament against his players. They aren't stupid. They see we have been outcoached.
I don't think Sark has lost anyone that matters. Yeah, you have some players who probably need to exit stage left. That is painfully obvious. So I don't think fans hold that against Sark. He played the hand that was dealt to him.

The locker room – who cares? They SUCK. They lost to Kansas. They gave up the season back at halftime of the OU game.

Those who are worth their salt and worth our future will stick around. The problems, hopefully, will just leave.

I know you've been wanting to fire Sark for a couple of months now. I'm not going to repeat the same logic over and over again to you. So you know the reasons. They haven't changed.

 
Okay, I confess, its my fault!! It dawned on me this morning that I still have the blowU polo hanging on my closet door that I borrowed to fulfill my obligation after losing a bet in the RRR game. It had not crossed my mind before now that simply having it hanging in my house was creating a cloud of bad juju over the Longhorns. I'm sorry and am willing to enter the fan portal the rest of the season as penance.
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Okay, I confess, its my fault!! It dawned on me this morning that I still have the blowU polo hanging on my closet door that I borrowed to fulfill my obligation after losing a bet in the RRR game. It had not crossed my mind before now that simply having it hanging in my house was creating a cloud of bad juju over the Longhorns. I'm sorry and am willing to enter the fan portal the rest of the season as penance.
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Sark has lost the locker room long ago. He lost the fans. Even the forums are quiet. Social media and Youtube are full of Sark dirty laundry. 

 These players see things with the same eyes we do. They have the same doubts about schemes and play calls  and personnel moves as we do.

 I'd imagine Sark might finish out of the top 10 if he had a online football tournament against his players. They aren't stupid. They see we have been outcoached.
If the players see things with the same eyes that we do then they know that they've been outplayed over the last 5 games and that we haven't lost one game solely because of coaching, any player with doubts about that may want to go back and watch game film to take a look their effort/execution in games/practice.  If you can't see that were getting outplayed then your not looking hard enough, are not watching the games or are getting your info off of social media and/or YouTube.  We all knew at the beginning of the season that we had depth issues on both sides of the ball, especially with the O and D lines, and that we were going into the season without a great deal of experience at QB...Sark had nothing to do with any of that and little to no time to address that problem in the 2021 class recruited by Hermann to fit his schemes.  A new offense and new defense with same problems and players that he inherited from the previous coach, only an idiot (no offense...) would believe that he'd be able to turn that around in less than a year without a chance to get the players he needs. 

Sark may have lost a fan or two over the season but I doubt that they were real Longhorns to begin with...they were probably more along the lines of aggy 2%ers, sound familiar?

 
Okay I get the sarcasm.  There are currently 5 head coaches with a natty.  Of those 5 there are 2 that you would have to hold your nose on hiring because of their ethics.  Of the 3 remaining I believe that we could find 1 that could be bought given enough money.  

No one on this board or even the smartest minds in college football can guarantee that any coach will win a natty.  I am going with those that don't have to prove they can because they already did.  If we cannot get one of those coaches then you go with the coach that has a proven record of winning conference championships.  

At the time of the Sarkesian hire there might not have been a better choice but this goes back to Charlie and Herman as well.  Texas has always had issues finding the right head coach minus a couple of good ones.  
The point is there is no good formula for finding the next great HC. I don't think Texas' record at doing so is any better or worse than other big time programs who have fallen on hard times. Just look at USC, Notre Dame, Nebraska, etc. We forget how bad Alabama was before Saban got there for a long time. Of course ou made some really bad hires in the 80's and 90's before Stoops. Michigan was asking a lot of the same questions we are prior to Harbaugh, and have spent the rest of the time questioning Harbaugh.

All these schools could money whip coaches if needed, yet went through multiple bad HCs before finding another good one. 

So does USC have a culture problem, or Notre Dame, or... you see where I'm going with this. All these schools went through the same cycles. Maybe Texas isn't unique in that aspect at all. Maybe it's just really difficult to find good coaches who are in the right situations. 

 
The point is there is no good formula for finding the next great HC
 Sark is the 1st "name" coach we have hired. We whiffed.

 When Texas hire's a coach it should be a name that is familiar to all the fans, not someone you have to google to find out who it is.

 
Who do you think we could have realistically hired instead of Sark that would have us undefeated right now?
 That premise is all wrong. You don't fire a winning coach until you have your next HC locked and loaded.

Nobody said undefeated 13-0. If you pull the trigger you better be damn sure you are getting an upgrade, not a flood damaged car.

 
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