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Officiating

I'm not an official. From the ones I see on Friday night, they mostly seem to be there to collect a check bc they aren't very good at calling the games. 
Do you cut 'em some slack upon further review of the game film? Or does that just reinforce your poor opinion of the OSSAA officials? Do your OK crews work 5-man or 7-man?

When I worked the sidelines and knew I was right, I'd tell the HC "You'll see it on film, Coach". I'd be polite and responsive to the assistants, too, unless they pissed me off. Then I'd give 'em the, "I'm only talking to the HC tonight". And if the HC was an asshole, I'd give him, "Do you have a question, Coach? Otherwise, I'm not gonna respond to you."

 
I usually just politely ask them to watch for holding on my def ends and stuff like that since I realize they have a lot to try and see with only 5 man crews. Some of them really do seem to care about the quality of the game and doing their best. Some as I mentioned don't seem to care about much more than getting paid at the end of the evening. When the calls are blatant, it is frustrating watching the film but mostly I focus on how we can improve and avoid the officiating from having as big an impact.

Unfortunately the OSSAA found very few takers a couple years ago when they offered a type of scholarship program to entice younger people to learn the officiating craft.  

 
I usually just politely ask them to watch for holding on my def ends and stuff like that since I realize they have a lot to try and see with only 5 man crews. Some of them really do seem to care about the quality of the game and doing their best. Some as I mentioned don't seem to care about much more than getting paid at the end of the evening. When the calls are blatant, it is frustrating watching the film but mostly I focus on how we can improve and avoid the officiating from having as big an impact.

Unfortunately the OSSAA found very few takers a couple years ago when they offered a type of scholarship program to entice younger people to learn the officiating craft.  
With OH (offensive holding), an official has to ask himself, "did the hold affect the play?" in a split-second. Some holds are obvious, but we were trained to describe the action, "grab & restrict", "hook & turn", "takedown", etc. Some nights, we've got assistant coaches screaming for a hold on damn near every play. Needless to say, that can get annoying for the flank officials.

The best thing you can do as a coaching staff to improve officiating is to share your HUDL game film with your local OSSAA chapter. I assume yours is in Tulsa. The officials who are serious about getting better will review their games every week. Those that aren't, won't, so maybe you can "scratch" the really poor, lazy, or ineffectual crews.

The key is hustle. Crews are gonna miss a few calls with only 5 guys. But, y'all should encourage those who show up on time, prepared, and are hustling on film. You know who they are and I'll bet your local 6A schools request them every week.

 
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Thanks for the insight J.B. I do realize it is a difficult task at best but sometimes forget that in the heat of Friday night's

 
Thanks for the insight J.B. I do realize it is a difficult task at best but sometimes forget that in the heat of Friday night's
Understood

It's the heat of the moment, I get it, but take a deep breath before chewing out an official. Easier said than done, I know. The best coaches, in my experience, focus more on building up their players versus tearing down the officials.

 
I watched that game and could not believe the non-call. I took your previous advice though and didn't throw my remote at the tv. lol

 
I watched that game and could not believe the non-call. I took your previous advice though and didn't throw my remote at the tv. lol
You're welcome to PM me with your team's plays with questionable officiating if you want honest feedback. I'd have to review the differences between NFHS and NCAA rules briefly, but they don't vary too much. Fun fact - TX and MA are the only two states who play by NCAA rules.

Does OSSAA have many exceptions to the national rule book?

 
You're welcome to PM me with your team's plays with questionable officiating if you want honest feedback. I'd have to review the differences between NFHS and NCAA rules briefly, but they don't vary too much. Fun fact - TX and MA are the only two states who play by NCAA rules.

Does OSSAA have many exceptions to the national rule book?
That would be awesome. I may take you up on that if I'm still coaching next season. 

I do not think there are many exceptions but I'm not exactly sure how they differ.

 
Edinburg player ran off the sideline and hit the ref in tonight’s game after being ejected for roughing the passer.




 
10 hours ago, J.B. TexasEx said:

Edinburg player ran off the sideline and hit the ref in tonight’s game after being ejected for roughing the passer.


One of our coaches shared this last night. Is it any wonder people are not lining up to be officials at the high school level. This is nuts.

 
11 hours ago, J.B. TexasEx said:

Edinburg player ran off the sideline and hit the ref in tonight’s game after being ejected for roughing the passer.


Kid should face charges. If not, all TASO refs should boycott future games.

 
Isn't that the referee's decision? I'd press charges if I were him.
True however didn't this happen before where 2 players hit a ref then later they said it was a coach who told them to do it and nothing was done (in SA maybe?)? If they don't act now, this will continue to happen. Seeing that just pisses me off!

 
Just read on Fox News that this same kid was suspended from the 2019-20 soccer season because of a similar incident during a match. Wow, why is the kid playing any sport at all? And we wonder why some athletes feel like Gods?

 
True however didn't this happen before where 2 players hit a ref then later they said it was a coach who told them to do it and nothing was done (in SA maybe?)? If they don't act now, this will continue to happen. Seeing that just pisses me off!
No, those kids were suspended and the Jay coach was either reassigned or fired. Here's that video. Assault occurs during the game @ :25.

 
No, those kids were suspended and the Jay coach was either reassigned or fired. Here's that video. Assault occurs during the game @ :25.
Thanks, glad I was wrong on that. For some reason I thought they got off.

Edit note: The one kid who is still in HS should never be allowed to play again in any UIL sanctioned sport.

 
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10 hours ago, J.B. TexasEx said:

Yes, by rule


According to the rule about using the crown of the helmet, yes. Not a fan of the call but also not a fan of his tackling technique. We always preach to our kids to see what they hit. If the tackler had led with either his facemask or shoulder pads, he quite possibly inflicts even more pain and definitely remains in the game. 

 
According to the rule about using the crown of the helmet, yes. Not a fan of the call but also not a fan of his tackling technique. We always preach to our kids to see what they hit. If the tackler had led with either his facemask or shoulder pads, he quite possibly inflicts even more pain and definitely remains in the game. 
The good news for you is most HS officials won't call that at game speed. They don't have the benefit of super slo-mo instant replays from multiple camera angles. I called Targeting once in my 10-year TASO officiating tenure.

 
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