It's a credit to Strong that we won 6 games

[dillohorn]

maybe, but arkansas is the greatest 6-loss team in collegiate history. just ask SHA or cheese.

Arky was a bad match for the Horns. Thanks to the powers that let sec pick and choose.

 

[GBT]

I can pick a few teams I'd rather not play than Arkansas.....ND, Bama, Oregon, tOSU, Stanford ...dear Lord...Stanford...Did you see them last night ? I could add to the list but I won't.

 

[streettopeschel]

you'd have rather played bama or oregon than arkansas. i'm sure that would have gone well. 

 

[LHornjack]

Agree. The Pigs shut out two very good teams in LSU and Ole Miss. They should have beat Bama and aggy.

Arkansas stands a decent chance of winning the SEC West next year.

How good are LSU and Ole Miss looking today? 

 

[North Texas Golfer]

Not getting why everyone thinks Arkansas was so damn good? They were frigging 6-6 for the regular season!

Even giving them the benefit of the doubt, they were slightly above average at best.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

With all due respect, that is sarcasm, right? "Could beat anyone in the country right now and will contend for the SEC West next year?" I think this is complete crazy talk... If youre serious, I would be willing to bet contrary to your prediction... ANY AMOUNT! Please name it. Ill be hanging around here to collect next year, dont worry, Ill be easy to find. hahaha...

They had one decent win beating a spiraling Ole Miss team! The rest of their wins are all to joke teams and a LSU team that is not very good. They had some close losses as well, and while I know there is usually way more to a game than the final score, they still lost 6 games! Arky has some very good elements to their team(RB's, good Oline, 3 standout defenders) but they are by no means a power and it seems a bit premature to grant them that type of hype after a 7-6 season where they just won their first conference game in nearly 3 years. We left our D on the field for 41+ mins... That has a huge part to do with the final score. The other huge factor, Swoopes. I am not trying to talk us up, we are bad right now. But as ridiculous as it is to talk us up right now, its just as ridiculous to talk up a 7-6 Arky team. Ahahaha... Citing the fact they beat the SEC east champ also has to be a joke. The Hoosiers also beat them. Arky is a Texas Tech type of team for the SEC... Meaning, they are good enough to destroy your season on any Saturday but not good enough to actually make a serious run. Better than their record, maybe. But they lost to Aggy by giving up a 2 TD lead with less than 5 mins left. Are they good, yeah. A national force, nah. IMO.

Lemme know what youre willing to wager. Hahaha... ;-)

No, not sarcasm at all.

Did 31-7 not show you a thing? Did blanking two top 10 teams (something we can't dream of doing) not tell you a thing?

The OL we faced in Arkie is bigger than any OL on planet earth right now, including any found in the NFL.

"Nearly 3 years" means absolutely nothing. The past two years are not in play, they don't matter. Otherwise, are you willing to lump in the last two years to this year's Texas team? And if so, why on earth would you? It means NOTHING.

I don't want to take your money, but if you suggesting Arkie won't contend for the West title next year, I suppose it would at least teach you something. Let me know what you're willing to part with.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Not getting why everyone thinks Arkansas was so damn good? They were frigging 6-6 for the regular season!

Even giving them the benefit of the doubt, they were slightly above average at best.

I don't get why it's so tough to understand. It's like you folks thought you were playing little sisters of the poor.

There's a reason we were so thoroughly and completely beaten up and down the field. It wasn't because Arkansas was an average team.

Perhaps you should On-Demand the Arkansas games and see for yourself. Or just listen to what practically every college football expert will tell you.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

How good are LSU and Ole Miss looking today? 

Could Texas beat either?

Ole Miss has their starting WRs out for this game.

Was OU all that because they beat Bama? Well, no. OU sucked.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Several years ago, a little 4A school that had never won anything finished their regular season at 6-4. Just two more wins than losses. Nothing special, right?

That team, Tyler Chapel Hill, won the 4A state title.

How did this happen? Did every opponent in the playoffs just let them win? Was the entire state 4A class a fraud?

No, Chapel Hill put it together late in the season, despite having lost to some weak opponents in the first part of the season. When the season ended, they were the best in Texas class 4A.

Look it up.

 

[streettopeschel]

never said they were the little sisters of the poor. just that they were a last place sec-west team. weren't you the guy who kept saying in the 'sec bias' thread how overrated the league was? now, their last place team is the shit? 

yes there's a reason they smoked us. there's also a reason we lost 4 other games by 20+ points.

we didn't have 100 yards of offense. we're not good.

 

[tejasrulz]

Didn't this Ol Miss team beat the #1 team in the universe earlier this year? So if Ol Miss can get worse as the year went on, why couldn't Arkansas get better?

 

[Sirhornsalot]

never said they were the little sisters of the poor. just that they were a last place sec-west team. weren't you the guy who kept saying in the 'sec bias' thread how overrated the league was? now, their last place team is the shit? 

yes there's a reason they smoked us. there's also a reason we lost 4 other games by 20+ points.

we didn't have 100 yards of offense. we're not good.

Sure you did. And you just did it again.

You emphasize "last place" or just include some of the more creative descriptive words you've chosen to use because this was your point. They were nothing short of little sisters of the poor according to your own posts. Shall I go back and quote them all for you?

So how did we beat West Virginia so thoroughly? We're not good, remember? WV hung with aggy pretty close, but that's probably because of the reason only you can explain?

When two teams that are not good meet – you don't end up with a one-sided score. When one team is very good and the other is not, you end up with 31-7.

Again, this is why when the announcement was made that Arkansas would be our opponent - I didn't want to play them and said so in that thread. There was a reason why and you just experienced it, whether you realize it or not.

 

[streettopeschel]

Didn't this Ol Miss team beat the #1 team in the universe earlier this year? So if Ol Miss can get worse as the year went on, why couldn't Arkansas get better?

they can and apparently did. wish we had. 

i'm not disputing they didn't improve as the season wore on. but those acting like we got throttled by a world beater are ignoring our problems. jmo.

 

[streettopeschel]

so, they weren't last place?

 

[North Texas Golfer]

I don't get why it's so tough to understand. It's like you folks thought you were playing little sisters of the poor.

There's a reason we were so thoroughly and completely beaten up and down the field. It wasn't because Arkansas was an average team.

Perhaps you should On-Demand the Arkansas games and see for yourself. Or just listen to what practically every college football expert will tell you.

Never said anything about them being little sisters of the poor.

But the reason we were so thoroughly and completely beaten up and down the field had far more to do with how bad we are on offense then how good Arkansas was. Texas literally had little or no chance against anyone who had any semblance of a decent defense all year.

And I don't have to On-demand anything to see what their record was and who they played and what our record was and who we played. And I don't have the time nor the desire to listen to what all the so-called college football experts will tell you about this team or that team.

Again, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say they are slightly above average. But I'll ask this question. If Arkansas wasn't an average team, then why didn't they win more than half of their regular season games? If you are better than average, then you should win more games than you lose and they didn't.

 

[North Texas Golfer]

they can and apparently did. wish we had. 

i'm not disputing they didn't improve as the season wore on. but those acting like we got throttled by a world beater are ignoring our problems. jmo.

This! SOP is absolutely right.

We did not get throttled by a world beater!

 

[Sirhornsalot]

so, they weren't last place?

STP, you're smarter than this.

They were 6-6, same as we were. They were LAST PLACE in a division that we would have unseated them in had we been there.

The SEC West

LSU

BAMA

OLE MISS

MISS STATE

AGGY

Which one of those teams does Texas beat? Humor me.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Never said anything about them being little sisters of the poor.

But the reason we were so thoroughly and completely beaten up and down the field had far more to do with how bad we are on offense then how good Arkansas was. Texas literally had little or no chance against anyone who had any semblance of a decent defense all year.

And I don't have to On-demand anything to see what their record was and who they played and what our record was and who we played. And I don't have the time nor the desire to listen to what all the so-called college football experts will tell you about this team or that team.

Again, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say they are slightly above average. But I'll ask this question. If Arkansas wasn't an average team, then why didn't they win more than half of their regular season games? If you are better than average, then you should win more games than you lose and they didn't.

Read my post more carefully. I never said you said it. I said you thought it. And obviously, you're hung up on "last place" while seemingly ignoring the SEC West thing.

In your first graph, you admit we can't beat a decent defense. Yet, you also argue that Arkansas is lousy. Which will it be? Are they decent or are they lousy? They hung 31 on what you think is a good defense. Riddle me that, will ya?

Could Texas finish 6-6 had they had to play in the SEC West? Yea, I think Arkansas is way better than average. They'll compete with Bama for the SEC West title next year. They only lost to Bama by 1. Aggy lost by 59.

They were better than we were, before - during - and after that bowl game. If Texas isn't at least average, then we had no business being in a bowl at all.

 

[LHornjack]

STP, you're smarter than this.

They were 6-6, same as we were. They were LAST PLACE in a division that we would have unseated them in had we been there.

The SEC West

LSU

BAMA

OLE MISS

MISS STATE

AGGY

Which one of those teams does Texas beat? Humor me.

Think you are missing STP's point.....he is not saying Texas could beat anyone...just that Arkansas is a decent, but not great team.

I think even today that for sure if they were in the Big 12 they would lose to TCU, Baylor, and KSU...and then would likely lose 1-2 more games, because 2 of those others would score a bunch and force them out of their comfort zone and make them play catch up.

Right now, the way they are playing I think the only sure victory for Texas would be Kansas...anything else would be a toss up at best.

 

[streettopeschel]

STP, you're smarter than this.

They were 6-6, same as we were. They were LAST PLACE in a division that we would have unseated them in had we been there.

The SEC West

LSU

BAMA

OLE MISS

MISS STATE

AGGY

Which one of those teams does Texas beat? Humor me.

i doubt we beat any of them. maybe aggy is we got them in austin. 

but that's my point...we're not very good. and my larger point which i made in this and other threads is that instead of improving as the season went along (like arky clearly did) we regressed and were arguably playing our worst ball at seasons end. to me THAT is on charlie.