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On 7/6/2022 at 12:24 PM, TFloss32 said:

 

You don't say, Phil?

Or what? You'll stop sponsoring SEC and B1G teams with the Swoosh and Jumpman? Purchase fewer commercials on FOX and ESPN?

10 hours ago, Sirhornsalot said:

I heard if ND goes Big 10, WV wants to be the "other team" that goes with them.

That right there is some aggie-level delusion. Too funny

49 minutes ago, dssl said:

Financially and geographically the B1G makes way more sense. Also being locked in until 2036 may be a problem. 

On the other hand it doesn't sound like money is the only factor so it wouldn't be too shocking if they joined the ACC,  and by adding Notre Dame the ACC may be able to get a better TV deal which could reduce the money difference. 

I know WVU fans are hoping ND joins the ACC as full members bc they're convinced they'll be #16. But, who knows?

1 hour ago, Big Daddy Cane said:

They used to play almost yearly for about 40 years until recently, so I'm sure they could stomach it. The move to the acc prevented them from continuing the rivalry 

ND vs Michigan

Played a total of 43 times since their first game in 1887 with many gaps in the storied rivalry. That's not to say it wouldn't be marquee as conference mates in a revamped B1G. I won't be surprised if ND stays in the ACC, though.

7 minutes ago, Sirhornsalot said:

Have no idea why Deloss thought they'd come to the Big 12.

 

Delusion? Senility?

1 hour ago, dssl said:

When you look at the fact that NBC only pays them 15 million a year for their home games you would think joining the B1G would be a no brainer, but then you realize that if was strictly a financial decision they would already be in the B1G. 

It turns out it's a more complicated decision then it would seem. 

Yeah, now we find out how committed ND is to Catholicism.  

But, seriously, Michigan and the B1G have a long, early history of banning ND. It's complicated. ND half-assed "joined" the ACC in the first place bc most of their alumni are on the east coast.

Who's next for B1G expansion? 

Long story short, IF Notre Dame wants to or can get out of their ACC contract, they're #1 on the list. If not, we may see Cal, Stanford, UW, and UO in the B1G soon. So long, Pac. 

OSU and Wazzu to the MWC.

AZ, ASU, CU, and Utah to the Big 12 (16).

17 minutes ago, Sirhornsalot said:

If I were a betting man, I'd say at some point you'll see some sort of alliance between the Big 12 and Pac 10. The Big 12 really doesn't offer anything for the west coast schools to move. And the Pac 10 really doesn't offer anything to Big 12 schools. Its a push. IMO, they have to do something so some sort of scheduling alliance may be a result.

The Pac 10 won't budge as long as Oregon and Washington are still around. But adding a San Diego State or Boise State does nothing to help them.

SDSU gives them games in SoCal, but another poster recommended just leasing SoFi in LA for big games. So you're right, neither will grow the Pac's revenue pie. Hopefully, whatever "alliance" the Big 12/Pac form will entail more than a "gentlemen's agreement".

We've seen how that turned out.

2 minutes ago, dssl said:

It almost seems like it would make more sense for a new conference to form, that way it could be made up of the 16 teams that make the most sense, and not be constrained by keeping all the existing or promised members of either conference. 

I'd love to be a fly on the wall for these meetings.

I don't know how some teams are valued these days with "TV market size" and "cable subscribers" not being the main drivers any longer. What makes USC + UCLA worth $140MM+ annually to FOX and the B1G? For example, Rutgers never has and doesn't deliver the NYC metro to the B1G. Now they're getting an equal share of the biggest revenue pie?

Does not compute.

12 minutes ago, TFloss32 said:

This will be fun to watch as IT is reporting this morning that the Pac-12 is going to attempt to grab as many as five teams from the Big XII.

Pac-12 has nothing to sell if any more of their teams bail for the B1G.

UW, UO, Cal, and Stanford are prospects, depending on who you read. Which 5 are the Pac targeting? I don't subscribe to IT.

Honestly, I don't care if the Pac grabs 5 Big12 teams bc that means we definitely get out of our GOR and this contract sooner.

10 hours ago, dssl said:

This would certainly shake things up. If this happens it's even harder to imagine TX and OU remaining in the BIG12 for 2024.

Yep, that's why I'm hoping it happens stat. Big 12 needs to be proactive. Helluva first week on the job for the new commish, Brett Yormark.

But, what will the new Big 16 pods/permanent rivals look like?

Texas: Tech, TCU, BU, UH

West: AZ, ASU, Utah, BYU

Central: CU, KU, KSU, OSU

East: Iowa St, WVU, CIN, UCF

Use the same 3+6, 9-game league scheduling format and everybody plays home & homes every 4 years. Not a bad schedule.

20 hours ago, Sirhornsalot said:

So we end up with 25 teams in two conferences, which will split into pods, which will then give us the very same thing we have right now.

I listened today to ESPN, which was pitching an SEC with Tech, Okie state, Colorado, AZ and AZ State along with Texas and OU – in a pod of the SEC.

That doesn't excite me and makes me think this entire charade brings us back to something we already had.

Agreed - that sucks

We've got no history with the Arizonas. I'd rather play Tennessee, Bama, FL, and UGA twice every two years.

ESPN has the ACC locked in at a discount rate until 2036.

They've got no motivation to subsidize SEC expansion with ACC teams. With that said, my hope is the SEC remains at 16 teams for the short-term and we play 0u, aggy, and Arky every year regardless of what happens with more realignment. I don't care as long as we play those 3 annually. I like the idea of a 3+6 schedule where UT plays every SEC team twice in 4 years. Good match-ups.