Sirhornsalot Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Dallas Cowboys have agreed to a deal with Oakland Raiders TB Darren McFadden (arkansas). I'm not thrilled. http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/ap-source-mcfadden-agrees-to-contract-with-cowboys/ar-AA9Jnjl?ocid=ansspap11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirhornsalot Posted March 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 IRVING, Texas -- The Dallas Cowboys cast their vote with their offensive line in allowing DeMarco Murray to depart via free agency. By signing Darren McFadden to a two-year deal on Friday, we’ll be able to judge just how good the offensive line is. The Cowboys’ faith in the offensive line is warranted. Tyron Smith is one of the top three left tackles in football and a two-time All Pro. Right guard Zack Martin was named to the Pro Bowl as a rookie, and became the first Cowboys rookie to earn All-Pro honors since 1969. Center Travis Frederick was named to the Pro Bowl as well. Right tackle Doug Free and left guard Ronald Leary are solid starters as well. The Cowboys were one of the top destinations for free-agent running backs. Who wouldn’t want to run behind that line, have Tony Romo at quarterback, Dez Bryant at wide receiver and Jason Witten at tight end? All of that should make life easier for a running back. Like Murray, McFadden has battled injuries. Like Murray, he played his first 16-game season in 2014. He has one 1,000 yard season to his credit (1,157 yards in 2010). But in Oakland, McFadden hasn’t had an offensive line to run behind like he will have in Dallas. This is a low-risk chance for the Cowboys after losing out on Murray in a big-money game with the Philadelphia Eagles. The addition of McFadden will not stop the Cowboys from selecting a running back in the early parts of the upcoming draft. What the addition of McFadden does is allow said rookie -- Todd Gurley, Melvin Gordon or Tevin Coleman -- to not have to be the guy right away. While the transition to the NFL at running back is easier than other positions, it’s still a lot to ask a rookie to fill in for the NFL’s leading rusher. Murray had 392 carries for the Cowboys in 2014, a franchise record. It’s clear that record will be safe in 2015. The Cowboys know they will need a committee approach at running back. In 2009, they ran for 2,103 yards and 14 touchdowns as a team with Marion Barber, Felix Jones and Tashard Choice as their top rushers. They went 11-5 and won a playoff game with an offensive line that had Pro Bowlers in Andre Gurode and Leonard Davis. The runners will be different in Dallas in 2015, but that doesn’t mean the running game will change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etex Horn Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Don't watch NFL personnel moves so much anymore...but there were rumors of possibly A. Peterson joining the Cowboys. Is that no longer a possibility? Any chance that could still happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worster1 Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 I am not thrilled either... think about this pick for 10 seconds. Where did he play college ball? Where did Jerrah play his college ball? Seriously. Is this the best the Cowboys could do or was this a Jerrah mercy pick to get an fellow hawg out of that hell - hole of a team in Oakland? We will see. popdaddy and J.B. TexasEx 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streettopeschel Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 I know cowboy fan wants to believe any back would rack up big numbers behind that line, but if DAL doesn't have another move this is a big downgrade at RB Agmaniacmike and java 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popdaddy Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 There were so many years of joy, disappointment but always pride after my Daddy and I decided we were Dallas Cowboy fans over the Dallas Texans. I cherish my history of being the Dallas Cowboy fan wherever I lived across America among other fan bases in the 70's and 80's. Then came Jerrah, such a douche bag from Arkansas. I coped with his management when Jimmy Johnson was running the team in the early 90's. But, of course, Jerrah couldn't stand success attributed to anyone but him. I've pretty much given up on the NFL because of Jones destruction of America's Team. java, bcherry168 and bill_ut75 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFlonghorngirl Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Of the free agent RBs, would you rather have McFadden, Spiller, or Bush? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streettopeschel Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Spiller signed with NO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etex Horn Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Spiller signed with NONo chance for Peterson? Personally, I don't like Peterson. Asked about him earlier on this thread, got no reply. Like him or not, Peterson is talented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streettopeschel Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 No chance for Peterson? Personally, I don't like Peterson. Asked about him earlier on this thread, got no reply. Like him or not, Peterson is talented. he's not a free agent so they'd have to trade for him. And pay him. And they didn't want to pay Murray. So who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Aaron Carrara Posted March 14, 2015 Administrators Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 As a Dallas fan, I'm incredulous that Jerry Jones let the league's leading rusher get away. Murray had 500 yards more than any back in the league last year. And I hope the McFadden signing had nothing to do with him being an Arkansas guy but it probably did. There is no modus ponens to this deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bry-Man81 Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 I think one important thing here is that Murray is getting 20 mil guaranteed from Philly, and we're paying 6 mil total (not sure how much is guaranteed) for McFadden. That's money saved that will help pay Dez for a long term deal next year, and may signify the beginning of money smart decisions that will help us to have the money to keep our young offensive lineman when the time comes to pay them. McFadden is a low risk signing that has potential to pay big dividends. Then we draft a talented RB this year, and if McFadden doesn't work out, maybe that back can fill the role. I think if we draft a talented back, he could be our next Murray: a talented back that has potential to be serviceable for 4 - 5 years. If he can stay healthy, maybe he can be better over more seasons. bcherry168 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirhornsalot Posted March 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 From what I've heard up here in DFW, the plan is to let McFadden see what he can do behind a quality OL WHILE a 1st round TB draft pick gets eased into the system. Its a transition to get from one place to another. STP is right on AD. He's under contract with another team. He would have to be traded. Not that Jerrah is afraid to make a trade, but saving money was supposed to be the gist of this deal with the thinking that Murray has seen his best days already. This is Jerrah doing the same thing he did with Marion Barber, anticipate the twilight years of a career. There were some ticked off folks up here when he let Marion Barber go. I like Bush but I don't view him as an every down back. If McFadden can stay healthy, maybe we do see a different back behind this OL. We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
java Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 SHA, I believe you are right about anticipation. The same was said when Jerry let ES go to the Cards. As much as I hate to admit it, Jones was right when it came to Smith. His best days were behind him. Running backs only have so many hits in them. Please note, however, that I still think Jerrah is a buffoon that is undeserving of our Cowboys. He's an 'idoit'! Sirhornsalot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drgilbert Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 I don't have a problem with the signing of McFadden, when he was healthy he had some speed and ability. I think Bry-man brought up a lot of good points that I agree with. Now on drafting a RB in the first round I don't agree with. We need a pass rusher a lot more than we need a RB. We have the o- line to dominate, so yes we can be like Denver used to be and just plug and play RB's. I also think Dez is more important to the team than Murray. The Bry-Man81 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillohorn Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 The reason is......Arkansas. Jones is an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echeese Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Good lord . . .. some of you are letting your Jerrah hate overwhelm your thinking. Great signing. . . . . .very low cost ($200,000 signing bonus). . .no risk and if he's healthy, HUGE upside. He's not a replacement, he's a part. Da Boys have a good track record with reclamation projects. . . . if it doesn't work. . . bye bye . . .no cap hit. Financially signing Murray to the numbers he got (and i don't blame him for taking it) is what got them in cap hell. They made Murray an excellent offer but Philly overpaid. . . Over under on Murray next year is 1250, I'm taking the under. Sirhornsalot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echeese Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 I am not thrilled either... think about this pick for 10 seconds. Where did he play college ball? Where did Jerrah play his college ball? Seriously. Is this the best the Cowboys could do or was this a Jerrah mercy pick to get an fellow hawg out of that hell - hole of a team in Oakland? We will see. Not to rain on your conspiracy but JJ has actually brought more Horns to Dallas than Pigs. . . . yep, count'em up. . . . Wane McGarity (drafted) Tony Hills Derrick Dockery Henry Melton Chris Whaley Roy Williams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.B. TexasEx Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Not to rain on your conspiracy but JJ has actually brought more Horns to Dallas than Pigs. . . . yep, count'em up. . . . Wane McGarity (drafted) Tony Hills Derrick Dockery Henry Melton Chris Whaley Roy Williams Don't mess with Chuck when it comes to the Cowboys! Good list. I remember being pissed off at Jerrah when he didn't draft Keenan Robinson and took some other scrub LB from Wake Forest. IMO, the 'Boys did the right thing this time. IF McFadden stays healthy, it's a great move! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotime73 Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 so let me ask this question..just out of curiosity..if you was the head coach of the cowboys..what player or playerSSS doesn't matter whether it's offense or defense would you like to pick up..???. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.B. TexasEx Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 so let me ask this question..just out of curiosity..if you was the head coach of the cowboys..what player or playerSSS doesn't matter whether it's offense or defense would you like to pick up..???. It's not really as simple as "who I'd like to pick up" because of the salary cap. Personally, I'd love to keep Murray and sign Ndamukong Suh at DT but it's fiscally irresponsible. shotime73 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primal defense Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 The Cowboys made the right choice, the Eagles overpaid. There are two RBs that are suppose to go in the first round Gurley and Gordon. In the mock draft I looked and there were four RBs slated to go in the second round. If the Cowboys choose the correct RB in the draft then he should be able to contribute next year at a cheaper price. echeese 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echeese Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 so let me ask this question..just out of curiosity..if you was the head coach of the cowboys..what player or playerSSS doesn't matter whether it's offense or defense would you like to pick up..???. I'll give a salary cap answer. . . Greg Hardy DE. . . .instant upgrade to our pass rush. . . .would be my #1 target for the right contract Other DE's to consider: Jarvis Jenkins or resigning Spenser. . . I'm a homer but Justin Blaylock looks like a nice backup OG Kendric Lewis as a potential S or Lewis Delmous or Dawan Landry DT prospects in FA: Ahtyba Rubin DT from the Browns or CJ Mosley or Kevin Williams who was on Seattle's squad last year. I would not be shocked to see Dallas land at least one from each group plus another LB or two. . . . DocHorn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agmaniacmike Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Murray for 5 years just wasn't worth it. 2 years, $12 million would have been fair and something both sides would have been able to agree with IMO. McFadden signing is cheap and like others, I believe the Cowboys will target a RB in the 2nd or 3rd round. I do believe that they would have preferred to keep Murray for the sake of continuity, but the price was too steep for a team that has a small window to win (assuming Romo has 2-3 years left). Cowboys fans can be grateful that their front office wasn't irresponsible during free agency like the Jags and Giants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocHorn Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 The reason is......Arkansas. Jones is an idiot. Not really, this has Stephen Jones all over it. They evaluated the situation, they like Murray a lot but not at the price he got. They think Murray is a good back, not a great one, and that what they had last yr was mainly a result of career yr for Murray and a fantastic O line. Stephen thinks McFadden still has some gas, and lets face it, he was an outstanding college runner. He is a low risk and klikely temporary guy. I suspect they will get a good back out of the draft and go from there. The Cowboys are finally doing this right, they are not overpaying for guys they do not believe to be elite or positions they do not believe warrant it. I hate to see DeMarco go but think about it, Kelly got rid of McCoy, an argurable better or at least equal back to Murray. In addition, Murray is quite possibly about to hit the wall for running backs after such a heavy load last season. I wish he were coming back, but I understand why they decided not to go to the 21 million guaranteed point. If it were up to JJ, he would have paid it, Stephen is the cap master for them and they finally seem to be doing things right, stay young, buiold in the drafte and a few FA signings, stay out of cap hell. The Bry-Man81 and J.B. TexasEx 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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