Jump to content
Search In
  • More options...
Find results that contain...
Find results in...

UCLA week press conferences (Updated Wednesday 09/10, Vance Bedford)


Juan
 Share

Recommended Posts

IMHO... This tearing down pictures nonsense is absolute bs... Why would KIDS tear down something that the coaches put up as motivation?! Why?! I wouldn't... It's more impactful to see it every single day and have it burn in and fire you up! Tearing it down is the easy way out! So tired of hearing this nonsense... It's a stupid game and now you're just playing psychological games with kids.

 

 

Disagree. I would have been the one who tore it down. I would have wadded it up and thrown it at the trash can across the room. I would have stopped everyone and made them watch me do it, then tell them why.

 

Then let coach Strong call me in if he thinks he needs to. If I have to go to the Pit over that, fine.

 

If Charlie Strong is the one who put it up, then there's nothing "easy" about tearing it down. But sometimes, you have to sacrifice for the good of all and make a statement all can understand.

 

It's not a game. You're looking for that spark. That sense of ownership in this team. Where's it going to come from? I love Diggs, but I'm sick of him being the only voice in that crowd.

 

In Strong's career, I've never seen him pull a "cop out." If he says the team wasn't ready, then I'm thinking the team wasn't ready. The defense was certainly more ready than the offense, but to what degree necessary is something Charlie must determine. If he expects more than what he saw, I'm totally ok with that.

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

so far, this team has bought in to all the suspensions and discipline, but if he keeps throwing them under the bus, he's going to lose this locker room.

 

tough love is fine, but there's a limit to it, i think.

Couldn't agree more... You're not gonna unite the locker room for the long term if you keep saying wholly derogatory things about the team... IMO, keep them to yourself and voice them to the team... There is a time for public embarrassment as a tool, week 2 is not it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Couldn't agree more... You're not gonna unite the locker room for the long term if you keep saying wholly derogatory things about the team... IMO, keep them to yourself and voice them to the team... There is a time for public embarrassment as a tool, week 2 is not it.

 

 

Going to disagree here, too. When Charlie is asked why the game went the way it did, I expect him to give an honest answer. If the players don't like it, let the players change it. But I don't want Charlie making stuff up on the fly. 

 

IMO, the monitoring of derogatory things said is something akin to what we just left behind. The days of worrying about feelings and self esteem are over. Let the kids create their own self esteem through hard work and success. If it ain't there, it ain't there. Don't sugarcoat it for their sake. Be honest for their sake.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Disagree. I would have been the one who tore it down. I would have wadded it up and thrown it at the trash can across the room. I would have stopped everyone and made them watch me do it, then tell them why.

 

Then let coach Strong call me in if he thinks he needs to. If I have to go to the Pit over that, fine.

 

If Charlie Strong is the one who put it up, then there's nothing "easy" about tearing it down. But sometimes, you have to sacrifice for the good of all and make a statement all can understand.

 

It's not a game. You're looking for that spark. That sense of ownership in this team. Where's it going to come from? I love Diggs, but I'm sick of him being the only voice in that crowd.

 

In Strong's career, I've never seen him pull a "cop out." If he says the team wasn't ready, then I'm thinking the team wasn't ready. The defense was certainly more ready than the offense, but to what degree necessary is something Charlie must determine. If he expects more than what he saw, I'm totally ok with that.

I get get your point... Though I still, personally, would be more impacted by having to see the images through the week rather than one symbolic act. But that's just me.

 

I am all about him expecting more... But as has been mentioned on this thread, the comment about not being ready... But the first half was a completely different game then the second half. So they were moreso ready for the first half than the second. BYU adjusted at half, we did not. At all.

 

I agree, I love Diggs but if he's the only outspoken leader then we're in trouble. There has to be more. I think the weakness of the online is going to continue to hurt the entire team.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I get get your point... Though I still, personally, would be more impacted by having to see the images through the week rather than one symbolic act. But that's just me.

 

I am all about him expecting more... But as has been mentioned on this thread, the comment about not being ready... But the first half was a completely different game then the second half. So they were moreso ready for the first half than the second. BYU adjusted at half, we did not. At all.

 

I agree, I love Diggs but if he's the only outspoken leader then we're in trouble. There has to be more. I think the weakness of the online is going to continue to hurt the entire team.

 

Recalling the days when I was in a locker room, that one act would have led to other acts by other players. And that's the point. Something like that sets the tone for the whole week, the whole season sometimes. Letting that stay stuck on the wall is like a fungus on your feet. Just get rid of it because as far as you're concerned, you're not letting that fungus happen (sorry for the stinky analogy).

 

While you and I saw a first half that we were "satisfied" with, Charlie is the one who is captaining the ship. He's so good we sought him out - meanwhile you and I sat here idle but ready to answer the call if Patterson had dialed us up. So I'm willing to ignore my own opinion on this in favor of his since I sit here in Denton County and don't see what he sees every day. He knows where he wants this to go and how to get it there. I do not.

 

We had four straight turnovers to open the second half. That's not a BYU adjustment. That's incredible pressure put on your defense, who answered those situations in the first half. I understand that sooner or later, the defense breaks when put under that kind of pressure. 

 

You have to inspire someone to be a leader in many cases. Tearing that down, IMO, tells other leaders it's time to step up. And 9 times out of 10, they do.

 

I respect your opinion and you're right to have it. I do see what you're saying and everyone is different that way. But this is how I saw/see it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Going to disagree here, too. When Charlie is asked why the game went the way it did, I expect him to give an honest answer. If the players don't like it, let the players change it. But I don't want Charlie making stuff up on the fly.

 

IMO, the monitoring of derogatory things said is something akin to what we just left behind. The days of worrying about feelings and self esteem are over. Let the kids create their own self esteem through hard work and success. If it ain't there, it ain't there. Don't sugarcoat it for their sake. Be honest for their sake.

Haha and I disagree with your disagreement... I believe in escalation of force and I think public embarrassment is further down in that progression. I would prefer CFS say nothing to the media and hammer the boys. I know we love getting info but it's tough to feel like a family when right after the family goes through something the parents are pointing fingers, and that's exactly what happened. I understand the mess they inherited. But they do also... They didn't show up yesterday and this isn't their first coaching jobs. At this point the players are well aware that the current coaching staff did not recruit them... I think there's a fine line there. IMO.

 

I'm a fairly insensitive person myself... But what I have learned over the years while leading is that sometimes you have what you have(as Wickiline said). Kicking around and being pissed off about it does absolutely no good if you have no other recourse... Culture build for years doesn't change in less than a year. Hell we've been in Afghanistan for 12 and haven't changed anything about their culture. Haha I love what Charlie is doing but I would prefer more of it stay in house. That's how you build trust and alliances. Not feeding the media and fans needs. IMHO.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Recalling the days when I was in a locker room, that one act would have led to other acts by other players. And that's the point. Something like that sets the tone for the whole week, the whole season sometimes. Letting that stay stuck on the wall is like a fungus on your feet. Just get rid of it because as far as you're concerned, you're not letting that fungus happen (sorry for the stinky analogy).

 

While you and I saw a first half that we were "satisfied" with, Charlie is the one who is captaining the ship. He's so good we sought him out - meanwhile you and I sat here idle but ready to answer the call if Patterson had dialed us up. So I'm willing to ignore my own opinion on this in favor of his since I sit here in Denton County and don't see what he sees every day. He knows where he wants this to go and how to get it there. I do not.

 

We had four straight turnovers to open the second half. That's not a BYU adjustment. That's incredible pressure put on your defense, who answered those situations in the first half. I understand that sooner or later, the defense breaks when put under that kind of pressure.

 

You have to inspire someone to be a leader in many cases. Tearing that down, IMO, tells other leaders it's time to step up. And 9 times out of 10, they do.

 

I respect your opinion and you're right to have it. I do see what you're saying and everyone is different that way. But this is how I saw/see it.

You are 100% correct. We don't have the view he has and he is in a much better position to do as he sees fit.

 

I would have gladly answered Paterson's call! Haha

 

I love the D and the potential there but they can not do it all. OLine OLine OLine... All starts and ends there. Gonna be a headache for us all year. But I'm happy with the big boys Wickiline is bringing in.

 

As I respect your opinion...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I don't think you build trust off coddling your players. I think you literally sink this ship if that shit shows up. You lose the team right there. At that point, they're convinced you're just a black Mack Brown.

 

SSDD.

 

I agree, kicking around and just being pissed off helps nothing. And perhaps if you're inclined to do that, you'd be one of the dismissals.

 

Myself, I responded favorably to what Strong is doing. Had he called me out, I would have taken it personally and responded to the criticism. Not with talking to the media. Not with getting my feelings hurt and wondering where "trust" is when it was my performance that damaged that trust in the first place. No, I would have responded by working harder to improve, but studying film, by listening harder. Dennis Alexander once employed the same approach and I watched while myself and others worked our tails off to remove the criticism. And we did.

 

Picked dead last in our district by DCTF, we won the title. We had no business doing that. But he made us believe we should, so we did. We had one player weighing over 200 lbs at a 4A school.

 

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Haha and I disagree with your disagreement... I believe in escalation of force and I think public embarrassment is further down in that progression. I would prefer CFS say nothing to the media and hammer the boys. I know we love getting info but it's tough to feel like a family when right after the family goes through something the parents are pointing fingers, and that's exactly what happened. I understand the mess they inherited. But they do also... They didn't show up yesterday and this isn't their first coaching jobs. At this point the players are well aware that the current coaching staff did not recruit them... I think there's a fine line there. IMO.

 

I'm a fairly insensitive person myself... But what I have learned over the years while leading is that sometimes you have what you have(as Wickiline said). Kicking around and being pissed off about it does absolutely no good if you have no other recourse... Culture build for years doesn't change in less than a year. Hell we've been in Afghanistan for 12 and haven't changed anything about their culture. Haha I love what Charlie is doing but I would prefer more of it stay in house. That's how you build trust and alliances. Not feeding the media and fans needs. IMHO.

 

Sometimes you have what you have (as Wickline said). Kicking around and being pissed off about it does absolutely no good if you have no other recourse.

 

Unfortunately this is a pretty accurate assessment of where Texas football currently stands. The coaches have what they have and the change options are severely limited.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I don't think you build trust off coddling your players. I think you literally sink this ship if that shit shows up. You lose the team right there. At that point, they're convinced you're just a black Mack Brown.

 

SSDD.

 

I agree, kicking around and just being pissed off helps nothing. And perhaps if you're inclined to do that, you'd be one of the dismissals.

 

Myself, I responded favorably to what Strong is doing. Had he called me out, I would have taken it personally and responded to the criticism. Not with talking to the media. Not with getting my feelings hurt and wondering where "trust" is when it was my performance that damaged that trust in the first place. No, I would have responded by working harder to improve, but studying film, by listening harder. Dennis Alexander once employed the same approach and I watched while myself and others worked our tails off to remove the criticism. And we did.

 

Picked dead last in our district by DCTF, we won the title. We had no business doing that. But he made us believe we should, so we did. We had one player weighing over 200 lbs at a 4A school.

Don't mistake my opinion to keep team business in-house as coddling... I'm not the coddling type. Both parties rely on the other for success, pure and simple. I am a self motivated person and I'm motivated by a combination of hate for losing and love for winning. If we had persons in the locker room that shared our feelings about success, and the drive for it, we would likely not be in the position we are in now. But we don't. And since he is still in the "learning the team" process he may want to keep some of the big guns in storage for mid and late season. If your team doesn't respond to public criticism then it's time to change strategies, plain and simple. We will see this week if all the finger pointing and calling out has any effect.

 

I love what Strong brings to the table as much as anybody else and want him to continue... But if we get shit talking the team every week until the roster is all their boys then it's gonna be a long and interesting year.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I don't think you build trust off coddling your players. I think you literally sink this ship if that shit shows up. You lose the team right there. At that point, they're convinced you're just a black Mack Brown.

 

SSDD.

 

I agree, kicking around and just being pissed off helps nothing. And perhaps if you're inclined to do that, you'd be one of the dismissals.

 

Myself, I responded favorably to what Strong is doing. Had he called me out, I would have taken it personally and responded to the criticism. Not with talking to the media. Not with getting my feelings hurt and wondering where "trust" is when it was my performance that damaged that trust in the first place. No, I would have responded by working harder to improve, but studying film, by listening harder. Dennis Alexander once employed the same approach and I watched while myself and others worked our tails off to remove the criticism. And we did.

 

Picked dead last in our district by DCTF, we won the title. We had no business doing that. But he made us believe we should, so we did. We had one player weighing over 200 lbs at a 4A school.

This year of football, that you mentioned you played, did you guys win the title?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This year of football, that you mentioned you played, did you guys win the title?

 

 

Yes, we did. Did I mention we won the title? lol

 

I played QB for much of that year, until I broke three fingers on the passing hand in the middle of the season. The next week, I was playing LB. They called me "Flipper" because the trainer had taped a knee pad on each side of my hand to protect my fingers. I know, you had to be there.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

We can say that the team has bought into CS and his methods, but it is very obvious that while some may have, the team most certainly has not. This game proved that on so many levels, the Mack Brown mentality is still prevalent throughout this team.

 

To be honest it is not all that shocking that buy in is not across the board as some would like to think. You can't just flip a switch from country club to the pit and think everyone will truly change.

 

The process of getting these guys mentally in line with CS has really just begun.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

This season and next season will be tough to watch but we need to give CS time to change the culture. After losing Ash and Espy and working with a half stocked pantry, We are going to have some lousy 2nd halves with the defense wearing down from spending too much time on the field. Hopefully Watson opens up the offense regardless of the consequences to see who can perform. CS needs to play as many of the younger players as he can to see how they progress. Plan for the future. Mack's last few recruiting classes pretty much insured that this years team, with our schedule would be equivalent of going to a gunfight with only a knife. Give CS time and it will get better!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

so far, this team has bought in to all the suspensions and discipline, but if he keeps throwing them under the bus, he's going to lose this locker room.

 

tough love is fine, but there's a limit to it, i think.  

 

 

He didn't throw them under the bus.  He is a straight shooter.  They know it, and they appreciate it.  When you work with teenagers, every day, like I do, you quickly discover that they can handle the truth, if they know you are always going to tell the truth.  What they cannot handle is someone they perceive as unfair or biased.  Parents can be a different story.  

 

For Strong to say his team wasn't ready to play is not an indictment of anyone except himself.  A coach is responsible for getting his team ready to play.  Do I believe he was at fault for the loss?  No, I believe the cupboard was not only bare, but bereft in critical spots due to Brown's poor management.

 

Lose the locker room?  Not a chance.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

As a sophmore on JV, the varsity thought they would tape 10-0 on all our helmets. . . .we had lost to a rival 10-0 the year before. . .

 

In the middle of practice I ripped my off, balled it up and threw it at the huddle. . .

 

"if you need this. . . we're f***ed anyway" .. . . .

 

 

Way to go, cheese.  You pass.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Administrators

Shawn Watson Presser Updates

 

Tuesday, September 9, 2014

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
 Share


  • 2021 Texas Football Schedule

    Week
    Opponent
    W/L
    9/4
    Louisiana
    W 38-18
    9/11
    @Arkansas
    L 21-40
    9/18
    Rice
    W 58-0
    9/25
    Texas Tech
    W 70-35
    10/2
    @TCU
    W 32-27
    10/9
    Oklahoma
    L 48-55
    10/16
    Oklahoma State
    L 24-32
    10/30
    @Baylor
    L 24-31
    11/6
    @Iowa State
    L 7-30
    11/13
    Kansas
    L 56-57 OT
    11/20
    @West Virginia
    L 23-31
    11/27
    Kansas State
    W 22-17

Our Affiliation

USATDP_Logo.png

Quick Links

×
×
  • Create New...