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Sir you really think he's ours do you know something I don't know. I sure hope you are right.

 

 

Well, like I said. His last visit was to UT. He just had Charlie Strong in his home right before he moves his timeline up.

 

Yes, I think he's a Horn.

 

 

And SHA, isn't speaking as a Horns Homer. He's been calling Malik to A&M for around two weeks or so. I agree with SHA, I think we have a strong chance here given how the past week has gone before he shut down his recruitment. 

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Well, like I said. His last visit was to UT. He just had Charlie Strong in his home right before he moves his timeline up.

 

Alright, I'll go with that thank you Sir. Just been hearing this other stuff about this Steve dude talking to his dad and saying it's Ole Miss and Tennessee. My first thought it was Texas.

 

Yes, I think he's a Horn.

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The staff feels like he's a Horn, according to a very good source.

 

That's Hager, Cherry and Kirkland for the middle.

 

I'll say this – I've said Malik to aggy for a while now. However, I don't underestimate Charlie's ability to flip this guy. The strategy being used is effective, I'm told. Sumlin showed up with no clue on a DC. Wasn't received well. Charlie has charted all the defenses that Sumlin has produced and shows all the DCs he's been through in such a short time span. It's, uh, working. Is it enough though?

 

 

 

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The staff feels like he's a Horn, according to a very good source.

 

That's Hager, Cherry and Kirkland for the middle.

 

I'll say this – I've said Malik to aggy for a while now. However, I don't underestimate Charlie's ability to flip this guy. The strategy being used is effective, I'm told. Sumlin showed up with no clue on a DC. Wasn't received well. Charlie has charted all the defenses that Sumlin has produced and shows all the DCs he's been through in such a short time span. It's, uh, working. Is it enough though?

 

To take this a step further, Bedford laid out the lack of development of defensive players under Sumlin dating back to his time at Houston through his time as the aggy HC. It's apparent that their plan of attack was to show Jefferson what he would be stepping into if he went there using cold hard facts.

 

It's one thing for a coach to sit there and say he's going to develop you better, but it's completely different when Bedford and to an even greater extent Strong can sit here and rattle off player after player after player that they have signed and developed into an NFL draft pick when their competition hasn't done it anywhere he's been.

 

I still don't think that Jefferson commits to us Friday. I think Sumlin has brainwashed him to an extent as being the guy who's going to turn around the aggy defense. But the fact that Strong and Co have gotten us back as close as we are in a relatively short amount of time tells me all I need to be told. These guys can recruit and they're going to be hell come 2016 and beyond when coaches like Sumlin don't have a relationship advantage like they've had this year.

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The staff feels like he's a Horn, according to a very good source.

 

That's Hager, Cherry and Kirkland for the middle.

 

I'll say this – I've said Malik to aggy for a while now. However, I don't underestimate Charlie's ability to flip this guy. The strategy being used is effective, I'm told. Sumlin showed up with no clue on a DC. Wasn't received well. Charlie has charted all the defenses that Sumlin has produced and shows all the DCs he's been through in such a short time span. It's, uh, working. Is it enough though?

 

Sumlin says hey that's not fair, he's using facts. I would have loved to have seen that exchange.  From the articles I've read about Malik, relationships seems to be the most important part of his decision. Sumlin had a recruiting head start on Malik since Coach Strong was at Louisville. MJ also has a good relationship with the aggie LB coach, plus his friends and his girlfriend are at A&M.

 

If Malik makes this a football decision, Texas is much better choice as far as getting the best of Malik's ability and helping him go to the NFL Coach Strong's first recruiting class at Louisville had two NFL defensive players that went in the first round and they were both three star recruits.

 

 

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No, but is close with someone on the staff. He's drinking, but IMO that just makes him feel he can say more. lol

 

I'd be comfortable saying 3-4 in two weeks. If Malik chooses Texas, then the guy might be

 

drinking the right kind of bourbon.

If you are drinking with him load him up and keep the info rolling. Then we will consult in a few weeks and see if he was worth the drinks you bought!

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Sumlin says hey that's not fair, he's using facts. I would have loved to have seen that exchange.  From the articles I've read about Malik, relationships seems to be the most important part of his decision. Sumlin had a recruiting head start on Malik since Coach Strong was at Louisville. MJ also has a good relationship with the aggie LB coach, plus his friends and his girlfriend are at A&M.

 

If Malik makes this a football decision, Texas is much better choice as far as getting the best of Malik's ability and helping him go to the NFL Coach Strong's first recruiting class at Louisville had two NFL defensive players that went in the first round and they were both three star recruits.

 

 

Yea, those nasty facts.

 

Sumlin tells Malik that doesn't matter that there's no DC, position coach will remain the same. Oh, is that right? lol

 

So now aggy has to hire a DC that will agree to that?

 

I should have edited my previous post on this. It was actually Vance Bedford who did the charts and info collection. I hear it was impressive. Showed how Sumlin's defenses have done, how many that were supposed to go to the league did not. Showed how many DCs he goes through. THEN - showed how Charlie has put guys in the league, consistently. Showed how well Charlie's defenses have done and how players were developed.

 

Yea, Malik has a strong relationship with Sumlin. But that presentation had to make him think twice, if he's a thinking man.

 

We'll see how it plays out.

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Yea, those nasty facts.

 

Sumlin tells Malik that doesn't matter that there's no DC, position coach will remain the same. Oh, is that right? lol

 

So now aggy has to hire a DC that will agree to that?

 

I should have edited my previous post on this. It was actually Vance Bedford who did the charts and info collection. I hear it was impressive. Showed how Sumlin's defenses have done, how many that were supposed to go to the league did not. Showed how many DCs he goes through. THEN - showed how Charlie has put guys in the league, consistently. Showed how well Charlie's defenses have done and how players were developed.

 

Yea, Malik has a strong relationship with Sumlin. But that presentation had to make him think twice, if he's a thinking man.

 

We'll see how it plays out.

Based on your post...and your posts are solid...I am liking our chances with Malik.  With Strong and his coaching

staff, Texas IS going to win big again and put those who are capable into the NFL. It's inevitable. 

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Defensive Players Drafted in NFL Coached Under Sumlin: (3)

 

Texas A&M | Damontre Moore - DE - 2013 3rd Round 

Texas A&M | Sean Porter - LB - 2013 4th Round

Houston | DJ Hayden - CB - 2013 1st Round

 

Defensive Players Drafted in NFL Coached Under Strong: (45)

 

Louisville | Calvin Pryor - FS - 2014 1st Round 

Louisville | Marcus Smith - DE - 2014 1st Round 

Louisville | Preston Brown - LB - 2014 3rd Round 

Louisville | Greg Scruggs - DE - 2012 7th Round 

Louisville | Johnny Patrick - CB - 2011 3rd Round

Florida | Ahmad Black - SS - 2011 5th Round

Florida | Joe Haden - CB - 2010 1st Round

Florida | Jermaine Cunningham - LB - 2010 2nd Round

Florida | Carlos Dunlap - DE - 2010 2nd Round

Florida | Brandon Spikes - LB - 2010 2nd Round

Florida | Major Wright - DB - 2010 3rd Round

Florida | Derrick Harvey - DE - 2008 1st Round

Florida | Jarvis Moss - DE - 2007 1st Round

Florida | Reggie Nelson - DB - 2007 1st Round

Florida | Ray McDonald - DE - 2007 3rd Round

Florida | Marcus Thomas - DT - 2007 4th Round

Florida | Joe Cohen - DL - 2007 4th Round

Florida | Brandon Siler - LB - 2007 7th Round

Florida | Jeremy Mincey - DE - 2006 6th Round

Florida | Dee Webb - DE - 2006 7th Round

Florida | Channing Crowder - LB - 2005 3rd Round

Florida | Reynaldo Hill - DB - 2005 7th Round

Florida | Keiwan Ratliff - DB - 2004 2nd Round

Florida | Guss Scott - DB - 2004 3rd Round

Florida | Bobby McCray - DE - 2004 7th Round

Florida | Clint Mitchell - DE - 2003 7th Round

South Carolina | Langston Moore - DT - 2003 6th Round

South Carolina | Corey Jenkins - LB - 2003 6th Round

South Carolina | Kalimba Edwards - LB - 2002 2nd Round

South Carolina | Sheldon Brown - DB - 2002 2nd Round

South Carolina | Andre Goodman - DB - 2002 3rd Round

South Carolina | Willie Offord - DB - 2002 3rd Round

South Carolina | John Stamper - DE - 2002 6th Round

South Carolina | John Abraham - DE - 2000 1st Round

South Carolina | Arturo Freeman - DB - 2000 5th Round

Notre Dame | Reynaldo Wynn - DE - 1997 1st Round

Notre Dame | Bertrand Berry - DE - 1997 3rd Round

Notre Dame | Kinnon Tatum - LB - 1997 3rd Round

Notre Dame | Paul Grasmanis - DT - 1996 4th Round

Notre Dame | Shawn Wooden - DB - 1996 6th Round

Notre Dame | Bobby Taylor - DB - 1995 2nd Round

Notre Dame | Oliver Gibson - DT - 1995 4th Round

Florida | William Gaines - DT - 1994 5th Round

Florida | Tony McCoy - DT - 1992 4th Round

Florida | Clifford Charlton - LB - 1988 1st Round

 

 

So yeah, if I'm a defensive recruit with serious NFL aspirations, I know which direction I'm swinging. Strong had as many defensive players drafted in the last draft as Sumlin has had his entire coaching career. 

 

 

In addition, I did entirely too much research for this post.

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Defensive Players Drafted in NFL Coached Under Sumlin: (3)

 

Texas A&M | Damontre Moore - DE - 2013 3rd Round 

Texas A&M | Sean Porter - LB - 2013 4th Round

Houston | DJ Hayden - CB - 2013 1st Round

 

Defensive Players Drafted in NFL Coached Under Strong: (45)

 

Louisville | Calvin Pryor - FS - 2014 1st Round 

Louisville | Marcus Smith - DE - 2014 1st Round 

Louisville | Preston Brown - LB - 2014 3rd Round 

Louisville | Greg Scruggs - DE - 2012 7th Round 

Louisville | Johnny Patrick - CB - 2011 3rd Round

Florida | Ahmad Black - SS - 2011 5th Round

Florida | Joe Haden - CB - 2010 1st Round

Florida | Jermaine Cunningham - LB - 2010 2nd Round

Florida | Carlos Dunlap - DE - 2010 2nd Round

Florida | Brandon Spikes - LB - 2010 2nd Round

Florida | Major Wright - DB - 2010 3rd Round

Florida | Derrick Harvey - DE - 2008 1st Round

Florida | Jarvis Moss - DE - 2007 1st Round

Florida | Reggie Nelson - DB - 2007 1st Round

Florida | Ray McDonald - DE - 2007 3rd Round

Florida | Marcus Thomas - DT - 2007 4th Round

Florida | Joe Cohen - DL - 2007 4th Round

Florida | Brandon Siler - LB - 2007 7th Round

Florida | Jeremy Mincey - DE - 2006 6th Round

Florida | Dee Webb - DE - 2006 7th Round

Florida | Channing Crowder - LB - 2005 3rd Round

Florida | Reynaldo Hill - DB - 2005 7th Round

Florida | Keiwan Ratliff - DB - 2004 2nd Round

Florida | Guss Scott - DB - 2004 3rd Round

Florida | Bobby McCray - DE - 2004 7th Round

Florida | Clint Mitchell - DE - 2003 7th Round

South Carolina | Langston Moore - DT - 2003 6th Round

South Carolina | Corey Jenkins - LB - 2003 6th Round

South Carolina | Kalimba Edwards - LB - 2002 2nd Round

South Carolina | Sheldon Brown - DB - 2002 2nd Round

South Carolina | Andre Goodman - DB - 2002 3rd Round

South Carolina | Willie Offord - DB - 2002 3rd Round

South Carolina | John Stamper - DE - 2002 6th Round

South Carolina | John Abraham - DE - 2000 1st Round

South Carolina | Arturo Freeman - DB - 2000 5th Round

Notre Dame | Reynaldo Wynn - DE - 1997 1st Round

Notre Dame | Bertrand Berry - DE - 1997 3rd Round

Notre Dame | Kinnon Tatum - LB - 1997 3rd Round

Notre Dame | Paul Grasmanis - DT - 1996 4th Round

Notre Dame | Shawn Wooden - DB - 1996 6th Round

Notre Dame | Bobby Taylor - DB - 1995 2nd Round

Notre Dame | Oliver Gibson - DT - 1995 4th Round

Florida | William Gaines - DT - 1994 5th Round

Florida | Tony McCoy - DT - 1992 4th Round

Florida | Clifford Charlton - LB - 1988 1st Round

 

 

So yeah, if I'm a defensive recruit with serious NFL aspirations, I know which direction I'm swinging. Strong had as many defensive players drafted in the last draft as Sumlin has had his entire coaching career. 

 

 

In addition, I did entirely too much research for this post.

 

 

Yep, that's impressive. How can you not look at that and 

 

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Defensive Players Drafted in NFL Coached Under Sumlin: (3)

 

Texas A&M | Damontre Moore - DE - 2013 3rd Round

Texas A&M | Sean Porter - LB - 2013 4th Round

Houston | DJ Hayden - CB - 2013 1st Round

 

Defensive Players Drafted in NFL Coached Under Strong: (45)

 

Louisville | Calvin Pryor - FS - 2014 1st Round

Louisville | Marcus Smith - DE - 2014 1st Round

Louisville | Preston Brown - LB - 2014 3rd Round

Louisville | Greg Scruggs - DE - 2012 7th Round

Louisville | Johnny Patrick - CB - 2011 3rd Round

Florida | Ahmad Black - SS - 2011 5th Round

Florida | Joe Haden - CB - 2010 1st Round

Florida | Jermaine Cunningham - LB - 2010 2nd Round

Florida | Carlos Dunlap - DE - 2010 2nd Round

Florida | Brandon Spikes - LB - 2010 2nd Round

Florida | Major Wright - DB - 2010 3rd Round

Florida | Derrick Harvey - DE - 2008 1st Round

Florida | Jarvis Moss - DE - 2007 1st Round

Florida | Reggie Nelson - DB - 2007 1st Round

Florida | Ray McDonald - DE - 2007 3rd Round

Florida | Marcus Thomas - DT - 2007 4th Round

Florida | Joe Cohen - DL - 2007 4th Round

Florida | Brandon Siler - LB - 2007 7th Round

Florida | Jeremy Mincey - DE - 2006 6th Round

Florida | Dee Webb - DE - 2006 7th Round

Florida | Channing Crowder - LB - 2005 3rd Round

Florida | Reynaldo Hill - DB - 2005 7th Round

Florida | Keiwan Ratliff - DB - 2004 2nd Round

Florida | Guss Scott - DB - 2004 3rd Round

Florida | Bobby McCray - DE - 2004 7th Round

Florida | Clint Mitchell - DE - 2003 7th Round

South Carolina | Langston Moore - DT - 2003 6th Round

South Carolina | Corey Jenkins - LB - 2003 6th Round

South Carolina | Kalimba Edwards - LB - 2002 2nd Round

South Carolina | Sheldon Brown - DB - 2002 2nd Round

South Carolina | Andre Goodman - DB - 2002 3rd Round

South Carolina | Willie Offord - DB - 2002 3rd Round

South Carolina | John Stamper - DE - 2002 6th Round

South Carolina | John Abraham - DE - 2000 1st Round

South Carolina | Arturo Freeman - DB - 2000 5th Round

Notre Dame | Reynaldo Wynn - DE - 1997 1st Round

Notre Dame | Bertrand Berry - DE - 1997 3rd Round

Notre Dame | Kinnon Tatum - LB - 1997 3rd Round

Notre Dame | Paul Grasmanis - DT - 1996 4th Round

Notre Dame | Shawn Wooden - DB - 1996 6th Round

Notre Dame | Bobby Taylor - DB - 1995 2nd Round

Notre Dame | Oliver Gibson - DT - 1995 4th Round

Florida | William Gaines - DT - 1994 5th Round

Florida | Tony McCoy - DT - 1992 4th Round

Florida | Clifford Charlton - LB - 1988 1st Round

 

 

So yeah, if I'm a defensive recruit with serious NFL aspirations, I know which direction I'm swinging. Strong had as many defensive players drafted in the last draft as Sumlin has had his entire coaching career.

 

 

In addition, I did entirely too much research for this post.

Have you already forwarded this to Malik, Kirkland, and Cherry? If not get on that my friend!

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