Longhorns -> SEC

[Soldierhorn]

34 minutes ago, Billybass said:

LMAO !!!

Hopefully we can leave as Big 12 champs. But you know these crooked ass morons are going to try to prevent that

agree... I think the Bama game will be the key for how the B12 will treat Texas.

IMO, Texas is the best chance for the B12 to get a team in the CFP in 2023.  If Texas can beat Bama in Tuscaloosa or make it close again, then Texas will have the B12 inside track to the CFP.  I dont think the B12 is going to sabotage all the extra money and exposure just to be petty (I hope).

If Texas doesnt have a chance at the CFP, then I think the B12 will not want Texas or okiehoma to be in the CCG. The worst scenario for the B12, IMO, is to have both UT and 0U competing in the CCG but neither considered for CFP.  

[Soldierhorn]

 

 

[Baron]

4 hours ago, TB14 said:

Let's use this as the alignment. Your 2024 schedule could be this gauntlet:

Week 1: Colorado State (They're terrible)

Week 2: @ Michigan (Obviously tough game)

Week 3: UTSA (Traylor has them rolling. Only getting tougher)

Week 4: @ Alabama

Week 5: Arkansas

Week 6: Oklahoma (Cotton Bowl)

Week 7: Florida

Week 8: @Kentucky

Week 9: @ LSU

Week 10: Ole Miss

Week 11: South Carolina

Week 12: @ Texas A&M

And it will be similar to this year after year! LFG!

Surely they wouldn't make us play at Bama two years in a row.

[Soldierhorn]

7 hours ago, dssl said:

Yes, my understanding is a 9 game SEC schedule is a done deal with 3 annual match ups.

 

This schedule was posted a while ago. I suspect it's close to what the schedule will be, ignore the annual match up with TT.

 

I dont see okiehoma agreeing to pathetic Mizzy and then east coast UF

[Soldierhorn]

15 hours ago, BWilk55 said:

Apparently divisions are likely out. And the 1 permanent opponent with 7 rotating games doesnt work well for multiple reasons - like Texas can't play A&M and OU every year, etc...

Yeah, divisions are probably out if they go to a 9 game schedule.  I prefer the divisions with round robin format. I think it is the fairest. 

a 9 game 3-6 format is inherently going to be unfair.  Using Texas as an example, Horns will be required to play three tough rivalry games every year; whereas, someone is going to play the Miss St, Miss, Vandy or UK.  

[Soldierhorn]

I dont think Okiehoma would agree to either one of these list...

 

 

[Baron]

My version

Bama - Aub, Tenn, Ole Miss

A&M - LSU, Ole Miss, Miss St.

Arky - Mizz, UT, Vandy

Aub - Bama, UGa, Fla.

Fla - UGa, S Car, Aub

UGa - Fla, S Car, Aub

Ken - Tenn, S Car, Vandy

LSU - A&M, Miss St, 0u

Mizz - Arky, 0u, UT

Miss St - Ole Miss, LSU, A&M

Ole Miss - Miss St, Bama, A&M

0u - UT, Mizz, LSU

S Car - UGa, Fla, Ken

Tenn - Bama, Vandy, Ken

UT - 0u, Arky, Mizz

Vandy - Tenn, Ken, Arky

 

 

[dssl]

10 minutes ago, Baron said:

My version

A&M - LSU, Ole Miss, Miss St.

UT - 0u, Arky, Mizz

 

I don't have a clue of exactly how they will determine the match ups. But you would think it would be based mostly on fan interest and money. You would also expect them allow the marquee programs like UT,ut,Bama, Georgia,lsu, Florida,aggy and 0u more say in the match ups.

I think aggy and 0u are a given for us, and I would be surprised if arky isn't the 3rd team. 

 

[Baron]

8 minutes ago, dssl said:

I don't have a clue of exactly how they will determine the match ups. But you would think it would be based mostly on fan interest and money. You would also expect them allow the marquee programs like UT,ut,Bama, Georgia,lsu, Florida,aggy and 0u more say in the match ups.

I think aggy and 0u are a given for us, and I would be surprised if arky isn't the 3rd team. 

 

When I put this together I tried to keep everything either regional and/or traditional as in rivalry. All except Texas - A&M. They spit in our face and gave us the middle finger on their way out of the Big XII. They can bite me!

But there's this.

If you have an IT membership or maybe just an On3 you can go to this link to hear what Sankey had to say:

https://www.on3.com/news/greg-sankey-details-sec-scheduling-division-models-with-addition-of-texas-oklahoma/

For those of you who don't I'll try to paraphrase.

The single division model seems to be the choice.

Rotating teams more quickly through the schedule so 12 years don't elapse before a home and home is completed.

Using a 1+7 or 3+6 model.

Balance and fairness of the scheduling considering a single division while trying to preserve as many traditional rivalries.

The goal is to make these decisions as soon as possible before the Destin meetings.

[dssl]

10 minutes ago, Baron said:

When I put this together I tried to keep everything either regional and/or traditional as in rivalry. All except Texas - A&M. They spit in our face and gave us the middle finger on their way out of the Big XII. They can bite me!

But there's this.

If you have an IT membership or maybe just an On3 you can go to this link to hear what Sankey had to say:

https://www.on3.com/news/greg-sankey-details-sec-scheduling-division-models-with-addition-of-texas-oklahoma/

For those of you who don't I'll try to paraphrase.

The single division model seems to be the choice.

Rotating teams more quickly through the schedule so 12 years don't elapse before a home and home is completed.

Using a 1+7 or 3+6 model.

Balance and fairness of the scheduling considering a single division while trying to preserve as many traditional rivalries.

The goal is to make these decisions as soon as possible before the Destin meetings.

My guess is they will give lip service to "fairness of the scheduling", but at the end of the day fan interest which translates to money will mostly drive the process. 

It's interesting he is still giving lip service to the 7-1 model. Maybe that's about negotiations with ESPN or certainschools, but 6-3 is the way to go.

[Soldierhorn]

29 minutes ago, Baron said:

When I put this together I tried to keep everything either regional and/or traditional as in rivalry. All except Texas - A&M. They spit in our face and gave us the middle finger on their way out of the Big XII. They can bite me!

But there's this.

If you have an IT membership or maybe just an On3 you can go to this link to hear what Sankey had to say:

https://www.on3.com/news/greg-sankey-details-sec-scheduling-division-models-with-addition-of-texas-oklahoma/

For those of you who don't I'll try to paraphrase.

The single division model seems to be the choice.

Rotating teams more quickly through the schedule so 12 years don't elapse before a home and home is completed.

Using a 1+7 or 3+6 model.

Balance and fairness of the scheduling considering a single division while trying to preserve as many traditional rivalries.

The goal is to make these decisions as soon as possible before the Destin meetings.

This is going to be interesting.  I think the 3-6 will be inherently unfair. If  Texas has three tough rivals (aTm, Arkie, 0U), somebody else will have a weaker permanent matchups with Miss, MSU, Vandy, etc. 

I think one permanent matchup is the best option.  In this regard, 0U should be Texas' permanent rival. aggy can have LSU. 

[BWilk55]

33 minutes ago, dssl said:

It's interesting he is still giving lip service to the 7-1 model. Maybe that's about negotiations with ESPN or certainschools, but 6-3 is the way to go.

They want ESPN to pay more for the 9th conference conference. Probably why 7-1 keeps getting talked about. 

[BWilk55]

1 hour ago, Baron said:

When I put this together I tried to keep everything either regional and/or traditional as in rivalry. All except Texas - A&M. They spit in our face and gave us the middle finger on their way out of the Big XII. They can bite me!

But there's this.

If you have an IT membership or maybe just an On3 you can go to this link to hear what Sankey had to say:

https://www.on3.com/news/greg-sankey-details-sec-scheduling-division-models-with-addition-of-texas-oklahoma/

For those of you who don't I'll try to paraphrase.

The single division model seems to be the choice.

Rotating teams more quickly through the schedule so 12 years don't elapse before a home and home is completed.

Using a 1+7 or 3+6 model.

Balance and fairness of the scheduling considering a single division while trying to preserve as many traditional rivalries.

The goal is to make these decisions as soon as possible before the Destin meetings.

One thing to keep in mind with schedules in 2024 going forward, with the 12 team playoff coming online there is a lot more wiggle room to lose several games and still have a chance at the end of the year.

This last seasons CFP rankings had 2 teams with 3 losses in the top 12, and teams 13-15 all had 3 losses as well. 

I think there will be a lot more freedom for marquee matchups in non-conference and in conference as well. 

[dssl]

28 minutes ago, Soldierhorn said:

This is going to be interesting.  I think the 3-6 will be inherently unfair. If  Texas has three tough rivals (aTm, Arkie, 0U), somebody else will have a weaker permanent matchups with Miss, MSU, Vandy, etc. 

I think one permanent matchup is the best option.  In this regard, 0U should be Texas' permanent rival. aggy can have LSU. 

With 16 teams, and either 8 or 9 regular season games each year there's always going to be some teams with a harder schedule then others. Hopefully they will use some kind of ranking to determine who gets invited to the SEC championship game,and not just SEC wins/losses.

When you have as many marquee programs as the SEC, 9 games adds lots of value.  With the expanded playoffs an SEC loss or 2 isn't going to knock you out of the playoffs.

[Wayne]

2 hours ago, dssl said:

I don't have a clue of exactly how they will determine the match ups. But you would think it would be based mostly on fan interest and money. You would also expect them allow the marquee programs like UT,ut,Bama, Georgia,lsu, Florida,aggy and 0u more say in the match ups.

I think aggy and 0u are a given for us, and I would be surprised if arky isn't the 3rd team. 

 

aggy has made it clear they don’t want to play us every year. I think they will get their wish. I don’t want to play them at all. I for one haven’t missed the wannabes at all. 

[Bear19]

2 hours ago, Wayne said:

aggy has made it clear they don’t want to play us every year. I think they will get their wish. I don’t want to play them at all. I for one haven’t missed the wannabes at all. 

F aggy. 

[Eastexhorn]

The way I see it is, the powers to be plus every one and his dog wanted to go to SEC.

So take what is given and be happy. The new playoff ( everyone gets a trophy mentality ) will work out till it is expanded again.

[dssl]

43 minutes ago, Eastexhorn said:

The way I see it is, the powers to be plus every one and his dog wanted to go to SEC.

So take what is given and be happy. The new playoff ( everyone gets a trophy mentality ) will work out till it is expanded again.

FWIW my dog was vehemently apposed.

I'm sure everyone will be accepting of whatever 3 annual opponents we get, but until they announce them speculation and opinions are a given. 

[UTfish]

15 minutes ago, dssl said:

FWIW my dog was vehemently apposed.

I'm sure everyone will be accepting of whatever 3 annual opponents we get, but until they announce them speculation and opinions are a given. 

My dog.

[Soldierhorn]

2 hours ago, Eastexhorn said:

The way I see it is, the powers to be plus every one and his dog wanted to go to SEC.

So take what is given and be happy. The new playoff ( everyone gets a trophy mentality ) will work out till it is expanded again.

I agree 100%. People cant say enough is enough. College playoffs will expand until it includes ALL teams with a winning record, just as the Texas high school playoff have. Back in the day all we had were regional patches and nobody thought two wits about it. Today it is out of control expecting single parents to travel all over the state week after week. 

I like the bowl game setup. I could plan my winter vacation (bowl game) throughout the year.  After the regular season, we had 3-4 weeks to get things in line for a bowl game... and that's it. I will not do that for games week after week in a playoff format.  I had better stop... this would be a whole different thread+

[Soldierhorn]

1 hour ago, dssl said:

FWIW my dog was vehemently apposed.

I'm sure everyone will be accepting of whatever 3 annual opponents we get, but until they announce them speculation and opinions are a given. 

 

[Baron]

14 hours ago, BWilk55 said:

They want ESPN to pay more for the 9th conference conference. Probably why 7-1 keeps getting talked about. 

The more I think about it, I like the 1+7 much more. it diversifies the schedule much more in conference and with 4 OOC games.

[Baron]

44 minutes ago, Soldierhorn said:

I agree 100%. People cant say enough is enough. College playoffs will expand until it includes ALL teams with a winning record, just as the Texas high school playoff have. Back in the day all we had were regional patches and nobody thought two wits about it. Today it is out of control expecting single parents to travel all over the state week after week. 

I like the bowl game setup. I could plan my winter vacation (bowl game) throughout the year.  After the regular season, we had 3-4 weeks to get things in line for a bowl game... and that's it. I will not do that for games week after week in a playoff format.  I had better stop... this would be a whole different thread+

The more, the merrier. More quality football. Better than the bowls we see now.

[63_Texas_1]

Question about the future expanded playoffs: Will the regular season be shortened to compensate for the extra games? I don't know a lot about the proposals, but adding weeks to the current number of games seems like a strain on the bodies of players. TIA.

[Soldierhorn]

44 minutes ago, Baron said:

The more, the merrier. More quality football. Better than the bowls we see now.

disagree... on average, the BCS had better NC matchups than the playoffs and I would go so far as to say the major bowls had better matchups before the CFP. The reason is obvious: the major bowls had free market incentives (not mandates) and the BCS was an extension if that mentality with objective computer comparisons (not a unaccountable committee behind closed doors that can change the rules in the last minute)