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12 minutes ago, 83Dee said:

This is a genuine question(s), not an accusation.   Who is our pitching coach?  Is he highly regarded?

Would you all agree that our pitching staff underperformed preseason expectations?

 

Yes

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1 hour ago, 83Dee said:

This is a genuine question(s), not an accusation.   Who is our pitching coach?  Is he highly regarded?

Would you all agree that our pitching staff underperformed preseason expectations?

 

Allen some thik highly of him. Yes.

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34 minutes ago, Mitch Lovell said:

Pitching coach Sean Allen out per Kendall Rogers

There was a lot of regression on the pitching staff.  That said I hate this for the man.  

Coaching is a rough profession... whether it was his fault or not you lose your job when kids underperform as they did this year.  

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1 hour ago, Austin Horn said:

I can’t believe people are shocked by this 

I think the shock is due to the fact that just last year he was assistant coach of the year and a major prospect for head coaching jobs. That was after coaching one of the top pitching staffs in the nation. 

I still don't understand the details of why the pitching staff went south this year but this does seem to indicate Pierce felt that a lot of the blame fell on Coach Allen. He would not make this move lightly as he and coach allen have coached together a long time at multiple universities (11 seasons total).

Coach Allen is not a pitching coach by trade but moved into the role when Tulo came on as the hitting coach. The role seemed to suit Allen just fine last season but things were very different this year. It may have come down to the fact the Allen is best when coaching hitting and Pierce wanted to keep Tulo in that role. Allen will land a good gig elsewhere, curious to see if that is on the hitting side.

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Total speculation here, but the team had their late season turn around after Allen got hit by a foul ball in the dugout and coaching responsibilities had to be shifted around for 1-2 games. I wonder if that was the catalyst for realizing a change needed to be made. If things got better without Allen in the dugout, perhaps he was the source of some of the problems. 

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10 hours ago, Eastexhorn said:

This was on 24/7 A$M batter  singled in 8 th and wasallowed to take second with out athrow.

Can some ho watched the game confirm this. Did team quit after big calledstrike out?

ttt

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43 minutes ago, Eastexhorn said:

Yesterdays Austin vs LA. no brainer.

Todays Austin vs LA would take a lot of money.

Tulo made 163 million during his career. Money probably isn't the major concern for him. Heck, he could coach for free and still live a lavish lifestyle.

This could be a dream job for him. Go back home and rebuild a traditional power while enjoying the LA lifestyle. Not a bad gig.

Hoping we can hold onto him.

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Saw on MLB.com list of top 200 draft prospects that we had 5 players make it. All in the bottom half of the list and predicted to go between the 3-5 rounds. 
 

Ivan Melendez

Pete Hanson

Trey Faltine

Silas Ardoin

Douglas Hodo

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6 minutes ago, TB14 said:

Saw on MLB.com list of top 200 draft prospects that we had 5 players make it. All in the bottom half of the list and predicted to go between the 3-5 rounds. 
 

Ivan Melendez

Pete Hanson

Trey Faltine

Silas Ardoin

Douglas Hodo

Can't imagine Ivan could do much to raise his stock by returning. Not much more he could do in the field or with the bat. 

Faltine, Ardoin and Hodo all probably have something left to prove and could potentially see their stock rise with a good year. Faltine and Ardoin with some inconsistency at the plate. Hodo was pretty solid in the field and batting so he may be pretty maxed out. Baseball is tricky as once you exhaust college eligiblity, your draft stock drops a bit as you have no leverage and no threat of the team losing you back to your college. These guys may make a move to the pros for that reason.

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51 minutes ago, BWilk55 said:

Can't imagine Ivan could do much to raise his stock by returning. Not much more he could do in the field or with the bat. 

Faltine, Ardoin and Hodo all probably have something left to prove and could potentially see their stock rise with a good year. Faltine and Ardoin with some inconsistency at the plate. Hodo was pretty solid in the field and batting so he may be pretty maxed out. Baseball is tricky as once you exhaust college eligiblity, your draft stock drops a bit as you have no leverage and no threat of the team losing you back to your college. These guys may make a move to the pros for that reason.

https://www.burntorangenation.com/2022/6/21/23175091/texas-longhorns-baseball-2023-projections-henry-bolte-cutter-coffey-david-pierce-dylan-campbell

Good article here discussing draft prospects, returning players and recruits and what the 2023 team may look like.

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3 hours ago, BWilk55 said:

Can't imagine Ivan could do much to raise his stock by returning. Not much more he could do in the field or with the bat. 

Faltine, Ardoin and Hodo all probably have something left to prove and could potentially see their stock rise with a good year. Faltine and Ardoin with some inconsistency at the plate. Hodo was pretty solid in the field and batting so he may be pretty maxed out. Baseball is tricky as once you exhaust college eligiblity, your draft stock drops a bit as you have no leverage and no threat of the team losing you back to your college. These guys may make a move to the pros for that reason.

Exactly. Melendez will be 22.5 years old at the time of the draft. Nothing else to improve. Better get every dollar he can. Agree on Hodo. His energy will help him with scouts. Faltine and Ardoin are so great defensively that a team will take them on day 2 just to be a backup and pray the bat gets better. 

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1 hour ago, TB14 said:

Exactly. Melendez will be 22.5 years old at the time of the draft. Nothing else to improve. Better get every dollar he can. Agree on Hodo. His energy will help him with scouts. Faltine and Ardoin are so great defensively that a team will take them on day 2 just to be a backup and pray the bat gets better. 

Yeah, the Burnt Orange Nation article I posted above seems to be leaning that these older, marginal guys may sign if drafted because they don't have much leverage otherwise. 

Gonna be a lot of new faces on the field next year.

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26 minutes ago, BWilk55 said:

Yeah, the Burnt Orange Nation article I posted above seems to be leaning that these older, marginal guys may sign if drafted because they don't have much leverage otherwise. 

Gonna be a lot of new faces on the field next year.

I have a hard time with marginal. I'm no expert but, shouldn't several players be picked early on the second day?

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12 hours ago, Eastexhorn said:

ttt

On that pitch, batter check swing, Ardoin appeals to 1B which was overruled saying no offer. It wasn’t catcher indifference. 

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