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Time to panic for Texas football fans? Or are better days ahead under Steve Sarkisian?


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IMO this describes Mack to a T Then this is what makes for a suscessful coach. Hire good assistants and let them do thier jobs

As Clint sais One should know thier limations.

This is why I said a good HS coach could have taken Horns players and put a better defense on the field! HS coaches coach to what they have not to put square pegs in round holea.

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5 hours ago, North Texas Golfer said:

I was kind of going along with on this post until the last sentence. 

Sark may turn out to be twice the coach Mack was when it's all said and done. But there is zero evidence of that so far. And saying "zero" is being kind to Sark right now. 

Sark was sought out BECAUSE of his coaching. Mack was not sought for that reason.

Sark built his reputation as a great offensive mind because he coached his players to his system with great success. He had just coached what many called the best offense in college football history.

Mack built a reputation for reviving a program, sort of did that at Tulane but did do that at NC. He went 11-1 at a basketball school. He did this by being a good CEO and recruiter, not a good coach. He delegated that gladly to those who could coach.

Your ability to ignore these things is tripping you up, I think.

 

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5 hours ago, Soldierhorn said:

agree... Sark needs to get a good OC he can mentor and migrate towards being a head coach of the whole team. 

Disagree.

Why do you go out and get the best offensive mind in the game – and then bench him and hire someone else who isn't the best offensive mind in the game?

You got the best OC in the game. Now you want to go get a "good" one?

If you look around, there are TONS of head coaches who run their own offenses. Ryan Day does a splendid job of both directing his offense and being a head coach.

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16 hours ago, Johnny Depp said:

 6 year contract. Dumbest idea I've ever heard. Incentive based contracts without huge guarantee's would bring us a winner that wasn't scared that he couldn't do it. Do it and make bank. Don't do it and bye.

I used to think like this--incentive laden contracts. But I've seen what happens if aren't careful with your details.

Let's just say you offer $2 million guaranteed plus $500k/win and extras for titles and such.

Here's what could happen - recruiting suffers because I want players that can help me win now. So I use the portal and Jr colleges; Player character - who cares, I'll bring in convicts just to win another $500k (think Barry Switzer); borderline ethical - why not use "bounties" to knock out the other team's best players.

Now, obviously I may have pushed the limits but you get the idea. Incentive laden contracts are a bad idea, plus you will never get a top shelf coach with one. You might get an up and comer like Strong or Herman.

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31 minutes ago, hookemhorb said:

I used to think like this--incentive laden contracts. But I've seen what happens if aren't careful with your details.

Let's just say you offer $2 million guaranteed plus $500k/win and extras for titles and such.

Here's what could happen - recruiting suffers because I want players that can help me win now. So I use the portal and Jr colleges; Player character - who cares, I'll bring in convicts just to win another $500k (think Barry Switzer); borderline ethical - why not use "bounties" to knock out the other team's best players.

Now, obviously I may have pushed the limits but you get the idea. Incentive laden contracts are a bad idea, plus you will never get a top shelf coach with one. You might get an up and comer like Strong or Herman.

points given for dragging switzer's name through the mud. lol

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31 minutes ago, hookemhorb said:

I used to think like this--incentive laden contracts. But I've seen what happens if aren't careful with your details.

Let's just say you offer $2 million guaranteed plus $500k/win and extras for titles and such.

Here's what could happen - recruiting suffers because I want players that can help me win now. So I use the portal and Jr colleges; Player character - who cares, I'll bring in convicts just to win another $500k (think Barry Switzer); borderline ethical - why not use "bounties" to knock out the other team's best players.

Now, obviously I may have pushed the limits but you get the idea. Incentive laden contracts are a bad idea, plus you will never get a top shelf coach with one. You might get an up and comer like Strong or Herman.

  That's a legit viewpoint. Obviously you need solid contract guidelines. A bit too Socialist for me on the Guarantee.

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5 hours ago, Sirhornsalot said:

Click bait? Are you kidding? Mack couldn't coach his way out of a phone booth. He was a CEO and loved being a CEO. Mack was never a very good OC. 

Being a candidate for something in one person's mind doesn't mean its to be taken seriously. Color me surprised that you're so ready to fire someone so quickly. You have less than one season from a guy who is one year removed from a national title. It can't be the players! It has to be the coach! lol

You may notice that everything you say has to be done in a possible future tense, meaning, it's not fact, its your own speculation.

The best mechanic I ever met runs his own shop and does all my business and personal auto repairs. You need to get out more. lol

 

I think somehow we are missing each other in translation.

I didn’t say that Sark should be fired right away. That was a figment of your imagination.

I never said that all good coordinators make bad head coaches. Nor did I say that all good mechanics make bad managers. What I tried to convey is - being a good coordinator doesn’t necessarily mean you’re going to be a good head coach.

I thought we were talking about head coaches… both Mack and Sark have served as head coach in Austin; neither as an assistant or coordinator here.  Is a head coach somehow not a coach in your mind?

How many times did you really laugh out loud while reading my post?

 

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4 minutes ago, J.B. TexasEx said:

Maybe Sark is establishing an impossibly low floor for fan expectations by starting off 4-8 with an inexplicable home loss to KU?

Next year, UT goes 6-6 and then follow that up with his high point at 8-4...progress!

Brilliant!

Idea Good Job GIF by Curious Pavel

I'm sure we are in for the long haul on this one. As long as CDC is successful with all his other hires Eltife and Co. will be on board. And that will allow CDC to give Sark a longer run.

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15 minutes ago, 83Dee said:

I think somehow we are missing each other in translation.

I didn’t say that Sark should be fired right away. That was a figment of your imagination.

I never said that all good coordinators make bad head coaches. Nor did I say that all good mechanics make bad managers. What I tried to convey is - being a good coordinator doesn’t necessarily mean you’re going to be a good head coach.

I thought we were talking about head coaches… both Mack and Sark have served as head coach in Austin; neither as an assistant or coordinator here.  Is a head coach somehow not a coach in your mind?

How many times did you really laugh out loud while reading my post?

 

About 12. 

We HAVE been talking about head coaches. Two of them, in fact. I'm glad we've re-established this.

Both HCs were OCs before they were HCs. One was highly sought for their performance in that role. The other was not.

To play your little game:

– I never accused you of saying all good coordinators make bad head coaches. I didn't even think that.

– I never accused you of saying all good mechanics make bad managers. The first example I thought of was totally opposite of what you stated. Thats all.

– I never disputed, though you didn't actually say, being a good coordinator doesn't mean you're going to be a good head coach.

Mack Brown was not a coach in my mind for reasons I've already specified. Sark is a coach for the reasons I've already specified.

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Read this some where might fit in.About hiringcoaches

1 Genius level cord. almost neverwork out. hello Tom

1A If QB is great great cord.

1B If RB is great great cord.

What to look for.

1 Who is recruiting.

2 Who is developing.

3Who is developing relationships with the players.

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1 hour ago, Sirhornsalot said:

About 12. 

We HAVE been talking about head coaches. Two of them, in fact. I'm glad we've re-established this.

Both HCs were OCs before they were HCs. One was highly sought for their performance in that role. The other was not.

To play your little game:

– I never accused you of saying all good coordinators make bad head coaches. I didn't even think that.

– I never accused you of saying all good mechanics make bad managers. The first example I thought of was totally opposite of what you stated. Thats all.

– I never disputed, though you didn't actually say, being a good coordinator doesn't mean you're going to be a good head coach.

Mack Brown was not a coach in my mind for reasons I've already specified. Sark is a coach for the reasons I've already specified.

To say that Sark is twice the (head) coach that Mack Brown is, with the current body of work, is so ridiculous, I really did think you were joking.  Its beyond ridiculous.  

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2 hours ago, Baron said:

I'm sure we are in for the long haul on this one. As long as CDC is successful with all his other hires Eltife and Co. will be on board. And that will allow CDC to give Sark a longer run.

 If we are good at volleyball, baseball and basketball we can keep our losing football coach longer. Brilliant.

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8 minutes ago, Johnny Depp said:

 If we are good at volleyball, baseball and basketball we can keep our losing football coach longer. Brilliant.

At that point it will have everything to do the AD

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6 hours ago, Sirhornsalot said:

Sark was sought out BECAUSE of his coaching. Mack was not sought for that reason.

Sark built his reputation as a great offensive mind because he coached his players to his system with great success. He had just coached what many called the best offense in college football history.

Mack built a reputation for reviving a program, sort of did that at Tulane but did do that at NC. He went 11-1 at a basketball school. He did this by being a good CEO and recruiter, not a good coach. He delegated that gladly to those who could coach.

Your ability to ignore these things is tripping you up, I think.

 

And I think your ability to ignore the fact that Sark has yet to accomplish anything of note as a HC is tripping you up. 

We are talking about each's ability as a HC. What Sark did last year at Alabama as OC has exactly nothing to do with his ability as a HC.

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