Basketball News/Recruiting Thread

[david ficken]

We are up at the half on Kansas, but we were sloppy offensively the last 3-4 minutes. Had chances to be up more. The good news is that Baylor lost earlier as did K-State.

[Sirhornsalot]

Double digit win. Sole possession of 2nd place. Not bad.

Played good defense but KU's shooting was awful today.

[david ficken]

We win by 16 over Kansas 75-59. We will be the 2 seed in the conference tournament.  One of the best all around whole team wins since early in the season.

[Sunkist]

Guaranteed 2 seed in the ncaa tourney?

[Billybass]

I’m pullin for coach Terry !! 
 

HOOK EM !!!!

[DBut82]

2 hours ago, Sunkist said:

Guaranteed 2 seed in the ncaa tourney?

Big 12 tournament 

[Baron]

3 hours ago, Sirhornsalot said:

Double digit win. Sole possession of 2nd place. Not bad.

Played good defense but KU's shooting was awful today.

This is fool's gold. This team should be able to take this on the road, but they can't.

[Sunkist]

1 hour ago, DBut82 said:

Big 12 tournament 

That I know.  But I’m looking ahead.

[BWilk55]

4 hours ago, Sunkist said:

Guaranteed 2 seed in the ncaa tourney?

That seems to be the thought. NET and RPI hasn't been updated after the win today but they will be around 8-9 in both of those before the big 12 tournament.

It would be the 3rd 2 seed in school history, best since 2008, and only second to the 1 seed achieved in 2001. 

Losing a shot at the Big 12 championship was disappointing for sure. If Texas underachieves the 2 seed, I think Terry would get strong consideration but certainly leaves it open for him to be replaced. On the other hand, an elite 8 run would make it hard to fire the coach that got you there.

[david ficken]

4 hours ago, Sunkist said:

Guaranteed 2 seed in the ncaa tourney?

Most likely, but would not be surprised if we moved to a 3 seed if we are 1 and done in the big 12 tournament as the NCAA seeding can be questioned

[BWilk55]

14 minutes ago, david ficken said:

Most likely, but would not be surprised if we moved to a 3 seed if we are 1 and done in the big 12 tournament as the NCAA seeding can be questioned

1 and done would mean losing to OU or Oklahoma State, teams that are 75 and 69 in RPI currently. That loss could definitely knock us down. Our second game would be either TCU or K-state, I don't think a loss there would really impact seeding to much. 

[david ficken]

2 hours ago, BWilk55 said:

1 and done would mean losing to OU or Oklahoma State, teams that are 75 and 69 in RPI currently. That loss could definitely knock us down. Our second game would be either TCU or K-state, I don't think a loss there would really impact seeding to much. 

In which game or games did we show that we would have an easy win over ousux or Okie Lite? Besides just look at last year when we lost to TCU in the opening round of the comference tournament. Both of those team will be like TCU needing and wanting a win more than us.

[david ficken]

9 hours ago, Sirhornsalot said:

That might be right. I remember we were loaded that year. 

Don't  hold me to this as I've slept since then, but we had 3-4 players that came in with KD and D.J. Augustine? That signed 2 years earlier. Not certain who else was on the team, but D. James, Pittman, and Atchley? were still on the team as juniors. After the season was over, Bradley had his agent and company put it out there that the issues on the team were due to Barnes, but KD, T.J. Ford (both already gone), and nearly every other player and coach(es) blamed the losses on Bradley being selfish down the stretch.

[Oldmanastro]

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35791167/texas-tech-coach-suspended-racially-insensitive-comment
 

[Sirhornsalot]

2 hours ago, Oldmanastro said:

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/35791167/texas-tech-coach-suspended-racially-insensitive-comment
 

There was nothing racial in anything he said, at all. He referenced scripture which addresses how we're supposed to serve the people we work for, which is a very good thing. Slavery in Biblical times was nothing like the slavery of the US civil war era. It was addressed in scripture because it existed.

Slavery was hardly limited to any race, unless you want to call the Jews a race. 

Holcutt is a female genital organ.

[DBut82]

1 hour ago, Sirhornsalot said:

There was nothing racial in anything he said, at all. He referenced scripture which addresses how we're supposed to serve the people we work for, which is a very good thing. Slavery in Biblical times was nothing like the slavery of the US civil war era. It was addressed in scripture because it existed.

Slavery was hardly limited to any race, unless you want to call the Jews a race. 

Holcutt is a female genital organ.

Idk...that article in no way quotes exactly what was said or how he said it; only references what he said. Evenso, I'd like to hear exactly what he said before deciding what he said was "racially insensitive". 

[Sirhornsalot]

42 minutes ago, DBut82 said:

Idk...that article in no way quotes exactly what was said or how he said it; only references what he said. Evenso, I'd like to hear exactly what he said before deciding what he said was "racially insensitive". 

Tech specifically said he was using Bible scripture. There is no racially insensitive anything in the Bible.

There were Jews. And there were Gentiles. In that world, you and I are of the same race (Gentiles). The Jews were God's chosen, and we were afforded salvation through the finished works by Christ at Calvary.

The Bible does tell of a kingdom (Ethiopia) I believe, which was led by a very beautiful queen whom the king of Israel fell in love with. I believe she was black.

[BWilk55]

20 hours ago, david ficken said:

In which game or games did we show that we would have an easy win over ousux or Okie Lite? Besides just look at last year when we lost to TCU in the opening round of the comference tournament. Both of those team will be like TCU needing and wanting a win more than us.

I didn't intend to insinuate that we would easily beat either of those teams. I think we could lose that game, and if so, may be a 3 seed. I think if we win that first game we are probably pretty set for a 2 seed.

[BWilk55]

3 hours ago, Sirhornsalot said:

Tech specifically said he was using Bible scripture. There is no racially insensitive anything in the Bible.

There were Jews. And there were Gentiles. In that world, you and I are of the same race (Gentiles). The Jews were God's chosen, and we were afforded salvation through the finished works by Christ at Calvary.

The Bible does tell of a kingdom (Ethiopia) I believe, which was led by a very beautiful queen whom the king of Israel fell in love with. I believe she was black.

Scripture has been inappropriately used time and time again to justify wrong actions and beliefs. The particular scripture he used was misapplied as a way to justify American Chattel slavery and to try to control slaves behavior using a religious basis. It is also used to justify misogyny and sexism - ie "submit to your husbands" (but how often do the husbands ignore the command to love your wife as christ loves the church).

Given that context, and not necessarily the context of slavery in the Roman Empire, it is wholly inappropriate for a coach to tell his black players to obey him like a slave obeys a master. It especially sounds like Adams was ignoring the verses about how a master was to treat a slave as well in the way he treated his players.

[Sirhornsalot]

1 hour ago, BWilk55 said:

Scripture has been inappropriately used time and time again to justify wrong actions and beliefs. The particular scripture he used was misapplied as a way to justify American Chattel slavery and to try to control slaves behavior using a religious basis. It is also used to justify misogyny and sexism - ie "submit to your husbands" (but how often do the husbands ignore the command to love your wife as christ loves the church).

Given that context, and not necessarily the context of slavery in the Roman Empire, it is wholly inappropriate for a coach to tell his black players to obey him like a slave obeys a master. It especially sounds like Adams was ignoring the verses about how a master was to treat a slave as well in the way he treated his players.

While true, it doesn't really apply to this case. You cannot get blood from a turnip. The Bible isn't racist and doesn't contain racist content. The slavery in question would be in the land of Judea and Egypt, at least where the Bible speaks of it.

Couples get divorced sometimes. Does that mean marriage is pointless? I think not.

Submitting to your husband or your wife is not misogyny. It is spoken from a context of the creator, God, who created man and woman and their roles. Those roles hold true even today.

You could just as easily change your wording to "an honest day's work for an honest day's pay." Thats what the Bible teaches us. I'm sure some modern day "ism" will get applied to that. lol Logic is not on the side of the woke.

 

 

[tejasrulz]

16 hours ago, Sirhornsalot said:

There was nothing racial in anything he said, at all. He referenced scripture which addresses how we're supposed to serve the people we work for, which is a very good thing. Slavery in Biblical times was nothing like the slavery of the US civil war era. It was addressed in scripture because it existed.

Slavery was hardly limited to any race, unless you want to call the Jews a race. 

Holcutt is a female genital organ.

The Tech coach committed the cardinal sin, he hurt someone's feelings. We are becoming a nation of pansies. 

 

[tejasrulz]

On 3/3/2023 at 8:40 PM, david ficken said:

My opinion on Ole Miss is that the AD is doing the this to see the reaction from the alumi, boosters, students,  etc.  But the AD for Ole Miss is a former player for Ole Miss so maybe he has a pass? 

Man, Oats did or allowed for players to show a lack of class in their introduction on Wednesday night with the act of announciing Miller with them doing some sort of TSA scanning of him.

If I remember correctly, Oates addressed the introduction at halftime with Miller and stated after the game it would never happen again. Hard to prevent something you don't know that's coming.

[DBut82]

15 hours ago, Sirhornsalot said:

Tech specifically said he was using Bible scripture. There is no racially insensitive anything in the Bible.

There were Jews. And there were Gentiles. In that world, you and I are of the same race (Gentiles). The Jews were God's chosen, and we were afforded salvation through the finished works by Christ at Calvary.

The Bible does tell of a kingdom (Ethiopia) I believe, which was led by a very beautiful queen whom the king of Israel fell in love with. I believe she was black.

I get that he referenced Bible scripture. But again, while referencing those scriptures we do not know exactly what he said in addition to the scripture he quoted, if anything. Let's not forget that same Bible was misquoted and used to enslave a people for over 400 years. Even with all this said, I'm not willing to sit here and say he did or said anything "racially insensitive". What I actually think is due to the season they've had that Tech is looking to get out of that contract. And as such are looking to use any conceived "misstep" to make that happen. And they're hoping they found it...

[Sirhornsalot]

5 hours ago, DBut82 said:

I get that he referenced Bible scripture. But again, while referencing those scriptures we do not know exactly what he said in addition to the scripture he quoted, if anything. Let's not forget that same Bible was misquoted and used to enslave a people for over 400 years. Even with all this said, I'm not willing to sit here and say he did or said anything "racially insensitive". What I actually think is due to the season they've had that Tech is looking to get out of that contract. And as such are looking to use any conceived "misstep" to make that happen. And they're hoping they found it...

But you do know, by the fact that he quoted scripture, that he wasn't saying anything racial. 

LOL, I think you nailed it with the contract thing. After being in the final four not long ago, this year must have really given them fits. lol

 

[83Dee]

18 hours ago, BWilk55 said:

Scripture has been inappropriately used time and time again to justify wrong actions and beliefs. The particular scripture he used was misapplied as a way to justify American Chattel slavery and to try to control slaves behavior using a religious basis. It is also used to justify misogyny and sexism - ie "submit to your husbands" (but how often do the husbands ignore the command to love your wife as christ loves the church).

Given that context, and not necessarily the context of slavery in the Roman Empire, it is wholly inappropriate for a coach to tell his black players to obey him like a slave obeys a master. It especially sounds like Adams was ignoring the verses about how a master was to treat a slave as well in the way he treated his players.

Agreed, nicely said (first paragraph).  However, I don't think he should have been reprimanded.  As was said before, the Bible teaches absolute equality with all ethnicities - and thinking otherwise is not understanding the old covenant.  Galatians 3:28 is a good verse for this.... it also addresses the worth of women - which you addressed as well, and social classes.  This concept expressed in Galatians, was incredibly radical when written.... timeless truth.  If you care to read, remember "Greek" meant "not a Jew."  

Indentured servitude was the government being addressed in Scripture when "slaves" were told to submit to their masters.  Not pro or con, just addressing the people where they were at.  If one kid-napped another (to make them a slave) the punishment for this was death in the same Bible.  Even in the old covenant.