echeese 2,157 Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 I'm going to post my response to a part of the War Room. The breakdown was the scholarship players by position group. Then below I added some commentary (ie WAY to many LBs). This is more the discussion I am interested in having. Thoughts on the numbers, strengths and weaknesses by position group. Some interesting takeaways: From the Alamo Bowl, we return 21 of 22 starters. Only 12 of 81 Juniors or Seniors Room for 4 more ships BEFORE we lose anyone else [QUOTE="Ketchum, post: 15258896, member: 20"] Quarterbacks (3) Casey Thompson, So. Hudson Card, Fr. Charles Wright, QB, incoming freshman Running Backs (4) Gabriel Watson, Super Senior Daniel Young, Senior Roschon Johnson, So. Bijan Robinson, Fr. Jonathon Brooks, RB, incoming freshman Wide Receivers (13) Brenden Schooler, Super Senior Joshua Moore, R-So. Kai Money, So. Jake Smith, So. Marcus Washington, So. Al’Vonte Woodard, So. Kennedy Lewis, R-Fr. Jordan Whittington, R-Fr. Kelvontay Dixon, Fr. Dajon Harrison, Fr. Troy Omeire, Fr. Jaden Alexis, WR, incoming freshman Casey Cain, WR, incoming freshman Keithron Lee, WR, incoming freshman Tight Ends (5) Cade Brewer, Super Senior Malcolm Epps, So. Jared Wiley, So. Brayeden Liebrock, R-Fr. Juan Davis, TE, incoming freshman Gunnar Helm, TE, incoming freshman Offensive Line (11) Top Imade, Super Senior Derek Kerstetter, Super Senior Denzel Okafor, Super Senior Junior Angilau, So. Rafiti Ghirmai, So. Christian Jones, So. Isaiah Hookfin, R-Fr. Tyler Johnson, R-Fr. Jaylen Garth, Fr. Andrej Karic, Fr. Jake Majors, Fr. Logan Parr, Fr. Hayden Conner, OL, incoming freshman Max Merril, OL, incoming freshman Defensive Linemen (13) Jacoby Jones, Super Senior Marqez Bimage, Senior Keondre Coburn, So. Moro Ojomo, So. T’Vondre Sweat, So. Myron Warren, R-Fr. Vernon Broughton, Fr. Alfred Collins, Fr. Sawyer Goram-Welch, Fr. David Abiara, incoming freshman Byron Murphy, incoming freshman Ja’tavion Sanders, incoming freshman Barryn Sorrell, Incoming freshman. Jordon Thomas, incoming freshman Linebackers (13) Ray Thornton, LB, graduate senior Juwan Mitchell, Jr. DeMarvion Overshown, Jr. Luke Brockermeyer, So. Jett Bush, So. David Gbenda, R-Fr. Prince Dorbah, Fr. Marcus Tillman, R-Fr. Jaylan Ford, Fr. Jaden Hullaby, Fr. Morice Blackwell Jr., LB, incoming freshman Terrence Cooks II, LB, incoming freshman Derrick Harris Jr., LB, incoming freshman Defensive Backs (15) Darion Dunn, DB, Sr. Josh Thompson, R-Jr. Anthony Cook, Jr. Montrell Estell, Jr. B.J. Foster, Jr. D’Shawn Jaminson, Jr. Chris Adimora, So. Tyler Owens, So. Marques Caldwell, R-Fr. Jahdae Barron, Fr. Kitan Crawford, Fr. Jerrin Thompson, Fr. JD Coffey III, DB, incoming freshman Ishmael Ibraheem, DB, incoming freshman Jamier Johnson, DB, incoming freshman Special Teams (4) Cameron Dicker, K, Jr. Ryan Bujcevski, P, Jr. Justin Mader, Jr., LS Isaac Pearson, P, incoming freshman Total: 81 Perhaps more fodder for [USER=8160]@Alex Dunlap[/USER] but I'm curious what these numbers mean to us, what conclusions you draw. Where we are strongest, weakest etc. And some "cheap seats" level observations. And will the super seniors hinder the development of younger more talented players? And there are not many Juniors listed. I get part of that is a "last year didn't count" but found that odd. And in a good way, these guys now have time to develop and a staff that actually understands development QB Shouldn't this be 4 as we landed a preferred walk on though I get he does not count against the ship limits. Sounds like we are taking advantage of Jim Bob's wealth (and smart way to go) And we have to mention, Charles Wright, greatest name in TEXAS football history. WR We have a bunch and outside of one Super Senior, they are all sophs or newer. Do we have too many? TE Here's hoping Jared Wiley gets to shine in 2021. Numbers look about right OL And in what has been a decades long (one of my few Mack complaints) problem, we seem to be shorting OL in favor of positions like WR DL The ND transfer not listed, will he be a senior with 1 year left or a Jr with 2? Does he project to start? Did not realize we added 5 this year. It's a full room but numbers would appear about right. Curious how Alex ranks them talent wise after spring drills. LB 13??? Seems high though we seem headed to a 2-4-5 style D. And clearly several will play a LB/DE hybrid. Does Thornton project to start immediately and does Mitchell really have 2 more years? DB 15 Given our history of injuries, a position that is likely good to be a bit over weighted. The most "experienced" position group on the roster with a Senior (brand new here) and 5 Juniors And all this with 4 spots left. Final question, we already have a DB, LB, RB and DE transfer (he's not on the list yet). Clearly OL is a transfer target, do they target 2? And can you rank by position (realize there will be a bit of BPA to who we add as well) the priorities/biggest needs for transfers Oh I lied, another question. By position groups, can you rank them from strongest to weakest? primal defense and Sirhornsalot 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slimer 1,632 Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 Counting the super seniors, we'll have 14 OL, which isn't a bad number. I hope we take AT LEAST 5 in the 22' class. More transfer options for the OL (and anywhere) will pop up during the spring when depth chart/starters start to become clearer at other places. It'll happen here as well. echeese and Tax Saver 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eastexhorn 458 Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 IMO roster should look like this. QB 4 RB 5 TE 5 WR 11 OL 17 DL 11 LB 13 DB 17 K/P 2 This for a 3-4-5 defence As to team OL weakestWR, LB and DL numders too high. DB too low. Sirhornsalot and echeese 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eastexhorn 458 Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 Just for claritication Sanders is a TE instead of a DE.The bad part of new rules is the should be seniors are now juniors and have another year to play. Would count towards the 85 limit. No much room for new recruits. echeese 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eastexhorn 458 Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 As far as I know none of super srs. O L has opted to return so 11 OL iseven weaker. echeese 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slimer 1,632 Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 33 minutes ago, Eastexhorn said: As far as I know none of super srs. O L has opted to return so 11 OL iseven weaker. All 3 of those guys are returning. Eastexhorn 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eastexhorn 458 Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 Not to be contervisarl but I have not seen any where that they are returning.Few days ago IT satd Kersetter is rehabing injury and has not decided yet. Hope you are right would be a big help to OL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eastexhorn 458 Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 Key to next years recruiting numbers will be, how many of so called juniors return . 5 DBS and 2 LBS pro. or return. Could be a very small class. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eastexhorn 458 Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 Quick summary when thr WRS, LBS and DL out numbers the OL your roster is wayout of balance IMO. The trouble with Horns winning in past seasons. Time will tell what new staff does to solve this problem. Great thread but few contribators. echeese 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
echeese 2,157 Posted February 12 Author Report Share Posted February 12 On 2/7/2021 at 7:16 AM, Eastexhorn said: Not to be contervisarl but I have not seen any where that they are returning.Few days ago IT satd Kersetter is rehabing injury and has not decided yet. Hope you are right would be a big help to OL. IT is the go to board for Longhorn news it seems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eastexhorn 458 Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 IT has good sources but like he rest of us they some times make mistakes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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