Steve Sarkisian named head coach at Texas

[DBOOK23 1,124]

2 minutes ago, J.B. TexasEx said:

What metrics should we use to determine whether or not an assistant coach will be good for us? Not being snarky, I'm genuinely curious. Should we focus on his recruiting chops or the players he's developed at his position group? A good balance of both?

Remember, assistants are usually responsible for geographic areas while recruiting.

At Texas? Recruiting 

[J.B. TexasEx 7,652]

Why are we considering assistant coaches from a lousy program like Tennessee?

(He ponders incredulously)

[HORNS GUY 66]

2 minutes ago, DBOOK23 said:

OB saying Tee Martin is a name to watch oh boy

 Oh boy in a good way or oh boy in a bad way 

[primal defense 4,775]

4 minutes ago, J.B. TexasEx said:

 A good balance of both?

 

[DBOOK23 1,124]

3 minutes ago, HORNS GUY said:

 Oh boy in a good way or oh boy in a bad way 

Very Good

[J.B. TexasEx 7,652]

2 minutes ago, HORNS GUY said:

 Oh boy in a good way or oh boy in a bad way 

Oh, boy, he's got skeletons in his closet with bagmen both as a player and coach way.

[DBOOK23 1,124]

4 minutes ago, J.B. TexasEx said:

Why are we considering assistant coaches from a lousy program like Tennessee?

(He ponders incredulously)

https://247sports.com/Coach/Tee-Martin-180/AllTimeRecruits/

[J.B. TexasEx 7,652]

Now seems like a good time to dust off a classic article that gives insight into how the aforementioned bagmen work - Meet the Bag Man: 10 Rules for Paying CFB Players

The "good" news is Sark has experience at two prolific recruiting institutions; USC & Bama

[HORNS GUY 66]

5 minutes ago, DBOOK23 said:

Very Good

Ok

[Sirhornsalot 15,238]

15 minutes ago, J.B. TexasEx said:

Why are we considering assistant coaches from a lousy program like Tennessee?

(He ponders incredulously)

We have lost several recruiting battles to Tee Martin. Very good QB coach and way above average recruiter.

He was QB coach under Lane Kiffin at USC and then Helton. Was promoted to OC.

Helton fired a bunch of assistants and Martin was caught up in that. Went to Tennessee (where he once played QB) for past two years.

[Slimer 1,657]

Getting Tee, Tosh, and Bo Davis would be a signal to aggy, OU and the rest of college football that we are about to play game and not a damn thing you can do about it.  I'm on board.

[J.B. TexasEx 7,652]

5 minutes ago, Sirhornsalot said:

We have lost several recruiting battles to Tee Martin.

For which players? I don't follow recruiting that closely.

[North Texas Golfer 3,585]

42 minutes ago, Rotty22 said:

 

Interesting that this is the best that we can get.  CDC must see something that doesn't show in the numbers.  I hoping for the best as I did when Strong and Herman were hired.  I guess Sark gets 4 years to prove he's the guy.  So we again are back in the same cycle that we've been in for the last 7 yrs.  At least we aren't Michigan.

 

From wikipedia:

I will say this. There is a little more context that needs to be looked at. 

He did take over a Washington program that was 12-47 in the previous 5 years, was 0-12 the year prior to Sark taking over, and had not had a winning season in 7 years. And this was his first head coaching job at at age 34. 

It's not like he bombed.

 

 

 

[J.B. TexasEx 7,652]

4 minutes ago, Slimer said:

Getting Tee, Tosh, and Bo Davis would be a signal to aggy, OU and the rest of college football that we are about to play game and not a damn thing you can do about it.  I'm on board.

I'm really surprised by these coaches that bounce back & forth between CFB and NFL.

Is it due to job scarcity? Most seem like they'd be better off staying with big-time college ball if they really enjoy recruiting.

[DBOOK23 1,124]

12 minutes ago, Sirhornsalot said:

We have lost several recruiting battles to Tee Martin. Very good QB coach and way above average recruiter.

He was QB coach under Lane Kiffin at USC and then Helton. Was promoted to OC.

Helton fired a bunch of assistants and Martin was caught up in that. Went to Tennessee (where he once played QB) for past two years.

Martin is a WR guru I don’t think he’s ever coached quarterbacks

[Wayne 332]

34 minutes ago, J.B. TexasEx said:

What metrics should we use to determine whether or not an assistant coach will be good for us? Not being snarky, I'm genuinely curious. Should we focus on his recruiting chops or the players he's developed at his position group? A good balance of both?

Remember, assistants are usually responsible for geographic areas while recruiting.

Getting to the college football playoffs when they are coaching at Texas. We won’t be able to know until then. All we have right now is wishful thinking. And let’s keep that thinking wishful. He needs a honeymoon unless he says ‘winning is hard’. 

[texasdalton 1,385]

Well Coach Stark has one last opportunity to showcase his talents In this NC game before starting his duties with us. Never thought I would root for bama to win a game but I guess that's where I'm at. Show the world and the recruits what you are made of

[texasdalton 1,385]

Well Coach Stark has one last opportunity to showcase his talents In this NC game before starting his duties with us. Never thought I would root for bama to win a game but I guess that's where I'm at. Show the world and the recruits what you are made of

[Wayne 332]

4 minutes ago, texasdalton said:

Well Coach Stark has one last opportunity to showcase his talents In this NC game before starting his duties with us. Never thought I would root for bama to win a game but I guess that's where I'm at. Show the world and the recruits what you are made of

Worth repeating...

[Sirhornsalot 15,238]

17 minutes ago, DBOOK23 said:

Martin is a WR guru I don’t think he’s ever coached quarterbacks

He has been coaching WRs, my bad. He started out as a QB coach.

[primal defense 4,775]

7 minutes ago, texasdalton said:

Well Coach Stark has one last opportunity to showcase his talents In this NC game before starting his duties with us. Never thought I would root for bama to win a game but I guess that's where I'm at. Show the world and the recruits what you are made of

[DBOOK23 1,124]

https://atozsportsnashville.com/tennessee-vols-football-tee-martin-leave-knoxville-texas/
 

big smoke

[Sirhornsalot 15,238]

25 minutes ago, J.B. TexasEx said:

For which players? I don't follow recruiting that closely.

We've fought him for every west coast offensive skill player we've recruited. 

[Sirhornsalot 15,238]

2 minutes ago, DBOOK23 said:

https://atozsportsnashville.com/tennessee-vols-football-tee-martin-leave-knoxville-texas/
 

big smoke

"Sarkisian coached Martin in the NFL when both were with the Oakland Raiders (Sarkisian was the Raiders’ quarterbacks coach in 2004)."

[Soldierhorn 774]

1 hour ago, J.B. TexasEx said:

Remember the enthusiasm we had for our last two strength & conditioning coaches, Yancy McKnight and Pat Moorer? They were gonna bring toughness back to The 40. Good times.

You didnt include Fat Dog?