Sirhornsalot 14,067 Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 5 hours ago, TexCoyote said: That’s the way Dodd’s did with Mackovic after the win over Nebraska......Roll Left. I think I remember he went in the locker room after that game and promised him an extension......and we know how that ended. I just think it’s obscured to extend a coach that has a couple of years still remaining on the current deal. How many millions are they going to pay out before they realize this? Maybe I don’t know anything, but I would extend close to the last year if each year we had seen major improvement. There is not many coaches going to leave The University of Texas for another college job and if the NFL is after them, you probably aren’t going to be able to keep them anyway. So there is no need to knee jerk extend a coach The short answer is – sign them now for less or otherwise wait and risk having to dole out more cash. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oldhorn2 1,337 Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 in a nutshell: https://longhornswire.usatoday.com/2020/10/04/texas-football-is-tom-herman-the-right-man-for-the-job/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MBHORNSFAN 2,954 Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 On 10/3/2020 at 7:41 PM, Mike Garland said: Herman don’t fumble. The. End. If you do not see the glaring issues with a Tom Herman coached football team your insight is basically useless.... I do see your little snide comments are back as they were before. I am sure you will flame out here again soon. 83Dee and longhorn_mig 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
63_Texas_1 354 Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 hours ago, oldhorn2 said: in a nutshell: https://longhornswire.usatoday.com/2020/10/04/texas-football-is-tom-herman-the-right-man-for-the-job/ Sigh. At this point I agree with General Beringer: Earl Nobis Jefferson, oldhorn2 and DMAC 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zion3d 72 Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 Well, I have been silent for quite a while on the forum but the current state of affairs with the University of Texas football program has awakened me from my slumber. I don't want to be one of those fans that's constantly critiquing ever aspect of the programs trajectory but at some point don't we as fans deserve the very best from our team? I say hell yes!!! The best metaphor for Tom Herman that I could you is that he is a used car salesman. He got most people to buy what he was selling and then laughed all the way to the bank. Do I believe that he wants to win as a coach. Definitely! He would love noting more that to have his ego fed by bringing a national championship to Texas. The rub is this, he thought that he could use mental projection of how smart he was with football to get the job and then with enough people believing a championship would magically happen. He need to remember that this is his culture, his players, his coaches, and after 4 years, of excuses and failed mantras the state of the program is no better than when he began. I think he realizes he does not have what it takes to bring a championship to Austin. You can't be elite as he always says by running all of the data into some algorithm and win a championship. I must say that just because someone has not accomplished something does not mean that they will not. And just because someone has accomplished something does not mean that they will again. I believe it takes a person understanding what they have and maximizing it to its full potential Player development, discipline, and that innate ability to do more with less is what we find lacking in our program. The other thing that bothers me about coach Herman is the obsession to be more of a friend to the players than a coach. I understand that every coach has a certain style but foundationally a coach that demands growth and effort ion their players does much more to advance the ball if you will than worrying about them feeling good about themselves. I do not see passion from Herman and thus thus the team lacks passion for the game. They want to be on the Wheaties box but can't perform beyond their training, both physically and mentally. That lack of emotion tells me he is not truly invested in doing what it takes to win if he has to change the culture he instituted. He has to know that what he is doing is not working. But for him to change is to admit guilt. Anyway, I am off my rant and apologize for seeming to be a negative Nancy. Till I die, HOOK 'EM! joeywa, Sirhornsalot, Hiwood and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oldhorn2 1,337 Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 I for one am sick to death of hearing how damned smart Tom Herman is. Mensa my ass! If he was so damned smart I would have expected to see SOME evidence of it by now. DMAC and Eastexhorn 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zion3d 72 Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 Okay, I'm throwing down the gauntlet after Herman's presser, YOU WILL NEV ER WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS!!! Prove me wrong bitch. Sirhornsalot, Eastexhorn and Earl Nobis Jefferson 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sirhornsalot 14,067 Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 3 hours ago, zion3d said: Okay, I'm throwing down the gauntlet after Herman's presser, YOU WILL NEV ER WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS!!! Prove me wrong bitch. I didn't get to see the presser. Obviously, it did not go well. 63_Texas_1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ntx dog 167 Posted October 6, 2020 Report Share Posted October 6, 2020 20 hours ago, Sirhornsalot said: I didn't get to see the presser. Obviously, it did not go well. I kept thinking to myself that these were the comments of a first year head coach just getting his program started. Not a coach going into his 4th year with an established culture of discipline and accountability. Sirhornsalot and oldhorn2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NWAHorn 373 Posted October 7, 2020 Report Share Posted October 7, 2020 I heard his narration of this weekend's rivalry and twice he referred to it as Ou vs. Texas. He cannot even get that right. It's Texas-OU, mensa, not the other way around. Would you please just GTFO. Sirhornsalot and longhorn_mig 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Baron 1,500 Posted October 7, 2020 Report Share Posted October 7, 2020 19 minutes ago, NWAHorn said: I heard his narration of this weekend's rivalry and twice he referred to it as Ou vs. Texas. He cannot even get that right. It's Texas-OU, mensa, not the other way around. Would you please just GTFO. Cardinal sin Edit: He will never acknowledge that he F'd up on that. This rivalry is steeped in tradition and the order of utterance is one of them. But he has plainly stated that he doesn't care what you or I think. That makes it "really really hard" to cut him any slack. Sirhornsalot, dillohorn, J.B. TexasEx and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
utparothed 525 Posted October 8, 2020 Report Share Posted October 8, 2020 Has anyone with connections to the program heard any grumblings from the $$ guys about CTH? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UTfish 1,034 Posted October 9, 2020 Report Share Posted October 9, 2020 Could we money whip Bill Snyder as an analyst just to play basic mistake free football? Sirhornsalot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J.B. TexasEx 7,629 Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 Sirhornsalot, tejasrulz, longhorndon and 2 others 1 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Sirhornsalot 14,067 Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 Lots of conversations. Nobody is leaking anything for obvious reasons. Urban Meyer is the logical hire for the criteria we all know and point to. Additionally, UM may be the only way that would keep costs down on the back end (Tom Herman's assistant buyouts) and make new hires unnecessary (saving more costs). The buyout will have to come primarily from the BMDs. And I think they are quite motivated right now. J.B. TexasEx and 63_Texas_1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oldhorn2 1,337 Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 keeping costs down??? Dammit all, I dont care what it costs! What do you think it has cost for us to suck year after year? Anyone clinging to the myth that we are a blueblood cannot see the big picture.I realize that pre covid, we were the richest school not named Harvard, but how damned much money would we have pulled in (read TV contracts) had we been on a 30 game win streak? The bleeding has to stop now.Herman has had his chance. He failed badly. Charlie Strong....well, never mind. Lets face it. We are crappy at picking young up coming coaches.We need to just money whip a top flight coach. dillohorn, burkesd23, Earl Nobis Jefferson and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
primal defense 4,452 Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 1 hour ago, oldhorn2 said: keeping costs down??? Dammit all, I dont care what it costs! What do you think it has cost for us to suck year after year? Anyone clinging to the myth that we are a blueblood cannot see the big picture.I realize that pre covid, we were the richest school not named Harvard, but how damned much money would we have pulled in (read TV contracts) had we been on a 30 game win streak? The bleeding has to stop now.Herman has had his chance. He failed badly. Charlie Strong....well, never mind. Lets face it. We are crappy at picking young up coming coaches.We need to just money whip a top flight coach. Cool! It would be very nice of you to write a twenty million dollar check to UT to fire Herman. I would appreciate it. It’s too early to know if Herman’s slow start will put his job in jeopardy. COVID-19 has impacted every athletic department in the country, and the Longhorns are expected to bleed $54.3 million in revenue this fiscal year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
North Texas Golfer 3,559 Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 hours ago, oldhorn2 said: keeping costs down??? Dammit all, I dont care what it costs! What do you think it has cost for us to suck year after year? Anyone clinging to the myth that we are a blueblood cannot see the big picture.I realize that pre covid, we were the richest school not named Harvard, but how damned much money would we have pulled in (read TV contracts) had we been on a 30 game win streak? The bleeding has to stop now.Herman has had his chance. He failed badly. Charlie Strong....well, never mind. Lets face it. We are crappy at picking young up coming coaches.We need to just money whip a top flight coach. You do know that we have plenty of company at being being crappy at picking young up and coming coaches, don't you? And that very, very, very few teams have ever money-whipped a top flight coach. It is really rare. Urban being hired at tOSU is about it when it comes to money-whipping someone. And DKR, Stoops, and Swinney are really good examples of great examples of up and coming coaches who turned out pretty damn good good. And don't get me wrong. I am fully on board with going after Urban and doing it now rather than later. oldhorn2, 63_Texas_1 and Bear19 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MBHORNSFAN 2,954 Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 The train is picking up major steam. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
North Texas Golfer 3,559 Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, MBHORNSFAN said: The train is picking up major steam. The wheels seem to be in motion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eastexhorn 409 Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 Only Urban at OSU, Aggie says hi. Bear19 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UT1983 547 Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 So Herman just stated on Monday’s evening news that players aren’t required to stay for the singing of the Eyes of Texas. Basically do what they want. He respects both those that stay on the field and those that leave early. Same for the coaches I guess because he said “most” not “ all” the coaches stayed on the field for the “Eyes of Texas”. Team had got to be fractured. No way they play worth a damn the rest of the season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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dillohorn 2,435 Posted October 12, 2020 Report Share Posted October 12, 2020 17 minutes ago, UT1983 said: So Herman just stated on Monday’s evening news that players aren’t required to stay for the singing of the Eyes of Texas. Basically do what they want. He respects both those that stay on the field and those that leave early. Same for the coaches I guess because he said “most” not “ all” the coaches stayed on the field for the “Eyes of Texas”. Team had got to be fractured. No way they play worth a damn the rest of the season. Political correctness is cancer. He can't get fired soon enough for me. It will take years to dig out of this hole. oldhorn2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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