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On 3/12/2020 at 6:30 PM, primal defense said:
The coronavirus  virus is not  media driven. Some of the facts that have come is that 80% of the public will have mild symptoms. However if your over 60 or older than the risk goes up including death. 
 
The Seattle nursing home had one third of the residents die since they were older and had other health issues.
 
The unfortunate part is that the US is behind other countries as far as testing and that's one of the key ways of containing the virus which is hard to do because it's so contagious. Also, with our lack of testing we could have a cluster of cases for the hospitals which they many not be able to handle which is going on in Italy which means some could die because of the lack of medical care.
 
If your 60 or older and especially if you have some other health issue I would recommend you build up your immune system as much as you can to fight it off. When people do get the virus the body goes into over drive of inflammation. If your healthy then you can fight it off. However if your immune system is compromise or your older then the inflammation response is too much to fight and your lungs are affected which could lead to difficulty in breathing and which could lead to death.
 
Some of the things that you can do to fight the virus is to make sure your Vitamin D3 levels are not low. Vitamin D is very important for the immune system and respiratory system. 
 
Also to build up the immune system or if you get the virus then high levels of vitamin C every hour will help fight the virus and the inflammation. Right now I'm taking 15 grams a day. Studies have shown that when you get a cold or the flu your need for Vitamin C goes up. Oregano oil is another virus fighter and anti inflammation. 
 
Good luck to  and I hope everyone can ride this out in good health.

I agree.  The coronavirus is not media driven.  The responsibility of the media is to keep us informed.  Dr Fauci stated this will get worse before it gets better.  Fauci is not a part of the media, he is a part of the administration's task force.  His message is reported through the media to keep us informed.  What people do with the information is their prerogative.  People stockpile guns and ammunition just in case.  People have tornado bunkers just in case.  If a tornado or hail is coming your way, the media is there to inform you about it.

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15 hours ago, Sirhornsalot said:

PD, thats a political opinion from a liberal site. At the least, its ill advised to copy them and attempt to politicize a virus.

What the story doesn't try to say is the US has a higher standard of healthcare available than any nation in the world. Why would we buy WHO tests when we have always created our own?

When a new virus comes on the scene, the host country of origin will send out the code for the new virus. From that, other countries across the world are able to generate their own tests and also begin developing a medicinal remedy. Whoever gets there first, shares the remedy with the rest of the world.

 

 

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/politico/

 

You can research their algorithm on how they rate, but Politico is factual and least bias.  The article has some good information.

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3 hours ago, Rotty22 said:

 

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/politico/

 

You can research their algorithm on how they rate, but Politico is factual and least bias.  The article has some good information.

You truly have to watch what you're doing in the realm of fact checking sites. Its because there is a faction of people who want to dictate truth, not catalog it.

Your listed source was founded by two Washington Post reporters. I think we ALL know how reliable and unbiased the Post is. lol They are in an outright war with the Trump administration, simply because the person who owns the rag hates Trump.

I put two decades in the media, running news rooms. I'm sorry, but you really don't have much of a media today. You have activist organizations pushing a distinct agenda with absolutely no shame.

No, politico is not always factual and they certainly aren't unbiased.

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4 hours ago, Rotty22 said:

I agree.  The coronavirus is not media driven.  The responsibility of the media is to keep us informed.  Dr Fauci stated this will get worse before it gets better.  Fauci is not a part of the media, he is a part of the administration's task force.  His message is reported through the media to keep us informed.  What people do with the information is their prerogative.  People stockpile guns and ammunition just in case.  People have tornado bunkers just in case.  If a tornado or hail is coming your way, the media is there to inform you about it.

 

"The coronavirus is not media driven."

No, a virus drives a virus.

But thats not the accusation anyway. The PANIC that you see all around you was directly and intentionally created by the media. We had two American soldiers die in Iraq the other day, but the media felt it more important to panic you instead of paying much attention to it.

The media will spend 30 seconds on a tornado story. This is wall to wall, 24/7. Nice comparison, lol.

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Let me ask you Rotty. The H1N1 was far deadlier than this. Obama didn't declare an emergency until after six months and more than 1K deaths. The media yawned.

The media tried to act like counselors back then.

Whats the difference, Rotty? Why is this different?

Why doesn't the common flu cause this panic annually? Thousands more die from it. The flu is more dangerous to the very same people who are vulnerable to Wuhan virus.

Right now, we have "fact check" sites and news organizations saying this isn't true. Seriously. They're saying this knowing all we have to do is search.

Here's a link to CBS news from the day Obama declared a national emergency and the statistics from the virus on America to that point. This was the news of that day.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-declares-national-emergency-for-h1n1/?fbclid=IwAR3-K-ep3wL_FAiT7-Fkgigtpgl1Me8LesOm7kTCGCmFF3CLv1vBL4PXa5w

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If your old enough to have enjoyed the 1969 Game of the Century Texas Arkansas game and you have some other disease then you to take as much of Vitamin C as possible. Vitamin C IV may be a good investment.

 

Three Intravenous Vitamin C Research Studies Approved for Treating COVID-19

by Andrew W. Saul, Editor

(OMNS February 21, 2020) Intravenous vitamin C is already being employed in China against COVID-19 coronavirus. I am receiving regular updates because I am part of the Medical and Scientific Advisory Board to the International Intravenous Vitamin C China Epidemic Medical Support Team. Its director is Richard Z. Cheng, MD, PhD; associate director is Hong Zhang, PhD. Among other team members are Qi Chen, PhD (Associate Professor, Kansas University Medical School); Jeanne Drisko, MD (Professor, University of Kansas Medical School); Thomas E. Levy, MD, JD; and Atsuo Yanagisawa, MD, PhD. (Professor, Kyorin University, Tokyo). To read the treatment protocol information in English: http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n07.shtml (Protocol in Chinese at http://www.doctoryourself.com/Coronavirus_Chinese_IV_C_Protocol.pdf

Direct report from China

OMNS Chinese edition editor Dr. Richard Cheng is reporting from China about the first approved study of 12,000 to 24,000 mg/day of vitamin C by IV. The doctor also specifically calls for immediate use of vitamin C for prevention of coronavirus (COVID-19). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TC0SO9KDG7U

A second clinical trial of intravenous vitamin C was announced in China on Feb. 13th. In this second study, says Dr. Cheng, "They plan to give 6,000 mg/day and 12,000 mg/day per day for moderate and severe cases. We are also communicating with other hospitals about starting more intravenous vitamin C clinical studies. We would like to see oral vitamin C included in these studies, as the oral forms can be applied to more patients and at home." Additional information at http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n11.shtml

And on Feb 21, 2020, announcement has been made of a third research trial now approved for intravenous vitamin C for COVID-19. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMDX0RSDp1k&feature=youtu.be

Dr. Cheng, who is a US board-certified specialist in anti-aging medicine, adds: "Vitamin C is very promising for prevention, and especially important to treat dying patients when there is no better treatment. Over 2,000 people have died of the COIV-19 outbreak and yet I have not seen or heard large dose intravenous vitamin C being used in any of the cases. The current sole focus on vaccine and specific antiviral drugs for epidemics is misplaced."

He adds that: "Early and sufficiently large doses of intravenous vitamin C are critical. Vitamin C is not only a prototypical antioxidant, but also involved in virus killing and prevention of viral replication. The significance of large dose intravenous vitamin C is not just at antiviral level. It is acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) that kills most people from coronaviral pandemics (SARS, MERS and now NCP). ARDS is a common final pathway leading to death.

"We therefore call for a worldwide discussion and debate on this topic."

News of vitamin C research for COVID-19 is being actively suppressed

Anyone saying that vitamin therapy can stop coronavirus is already being labeled as "promoting false information" and promulgating "fake news." Even the sharing of verifiable news, and direct quotes from credentialed medical professionals, is being restricted or blocked on social media. You can see sequential examples of this phenomenon at my Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/themegavitaminman .

Indeed, the World Health Organization (WHO) has, literally, met with Google and Facebook and other media giants to stop the spread of what they declare to be wrong information. https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/02/14/facebook-google-amazon-met-with-who-to-talk-coronavirus-misinformation.html?__twitter_impression=true

Physician-directed, hospital-based administration of intravenous vitamin C has been marginalized or discredited. Scientific debate over COVID-19 appears to not be allowed.

Ironically, Facebook, blocking any significant users' sharing of the news of approved vitamin therapy research, is itself blocked in China by the Chinese government. As for the internet, yes, China has it. And yes, it is censored. But, significantly, the Chinese government has not blocked this real news on how intravenous vitamin C will save lives in the COVID-19 epidemic. Here is the protocol as published in Chinese: http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n11-chi.shtml

Medical orthodoxy obsessively focuses on searching for a vaccine and/or drug for coronavirus COVID-19). While they are looking for what would be fabulously profitable approaches, we have with vitamin C an existing, plausible, clinically demonstrated method to treat what coronavirus patients die from: severe acute respiratory syndrome, or pneumonia.

And it is available right now

http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n12.shtml

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Vitamin C and COVID-19 Coronavirus

by Damien Downing, MBBS, MRSB and Gert Schuitemaker, PhD

(OMNS February 28, 2020) There is only one existing treatment for the new coronavirus: vitamin C.

Vitamin C supports your immune system.
Vitamin C helps to kill the virus and reduces the symptoms of infection.
It's not a COVID "cure," but nothing is.
It might just save your life, though, and will definitely reduce the severity of the infection.

If someone tells you it's not proven, consider two things:

  1. Nothing is proven to work against COVID-19, because it is a new virus.
  2. Vitamin C has worked against every single virus including influenzas, pneumonia, and even poliomyelitis.

 

What to do

If you do nothing else, start taking vitamin C right away; at least 3 grams a day, spread right across the day. That's a 1,000 milligram capsule every 8 hours, or a level teaspoon of powder dissolved in a pint or so of water, drank all through the day.

If you're smart and motivated, do all the other things recommended in our previous release Vitamin C Protects Against Coronavirus (http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n04.shtml)

When and if you catch a bug that might be COVID-19, simply increase your vitamin C intake: a rounded teaspoon (that's 4 to 5 grams) in water (which helps to keep you hydrated) every 3 or 4 hours. And keep on taking it.

Do you consult a doctor? Do you self-isolate? Yes and yes. Of course you do; that's your duty to others.

Vitamin C and the other measures are what you do for yourself

http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n14.shtml

 

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On 3/14/2020 at 8:38 PM, 63_Texas_1 said:

This help reduce fear...HOW? 😳

If there is going to be a discussion about coronavirus, how about approaching situation from a positive and helpful manner? See below. 

Otherwise, let's talk Longhorn sports.

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I believe in posting accurate realistic information that can be prepare people from the C virus. Especially, when you have a poster on this thread posting stupid and irresponsible post saying that the flu is worst.

However, you do have a good idea on being positive. If you or anyone else wants to start a coronavirus  support thread to help other members then I would be all for that. 

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Another reason why the C virus is more dangerous than the flu. It's important to take Vitamin C to protect your lungs.

 

CORONAVIRUS SURVIVORS MAY SUFFER FROM REDUCED LUNG FUNCTION

“They gasp if they walk a bit more quickly,” Tsang told reporters Thursday, according to the news outlet. “Some patients might have around a drop of 20 to 30 percent in lung function [after recovery].”

Lung scans of nine infected patients at the hospital suggested they had suffered organ damage.

 

https://nypost.com/2020/03/13/coronavirus-survivors-may-suffer-from-reduced-lung-function/

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Scumbag

The Man With 17,700 Bottles of Hand Sanitizer Just Donated Them

A Tennessee man had planned to sell his stockpile at marked-up prices online. Now he is under investigation for price gouging.

 
 
 

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Matt Colvin, a Tennessee man who stockpiled hand sanitizer and wipes, says he has donated what he bought. He faces an investigation on price-gouging charges. Matt Colvin, a Tennessee man who stockpiled hand sanitizer and wipes, says he has donated what he bought. He faces an investigation on price-gouging charges.Credit...Doug Strickland for The New York Times

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A Tennessee man who became a subject of national scorn after stockpiling 17,700 bottles of hand sanitizer donated all of the supplies on Sunday just as the Tennessee attorney general’s office began investigating him for price gouging.

On Sunday morning, Matt Colvin, an Amazon seller outside Chattanooga, Tenn., helped volunteers from a local church load two-thirds of his stockpile of hand sanitizer and antibacterial wipes into a box truck for the church to distribute to people in need across Tennessee.

Officials from the Tennessee attorney general’s office on Sunday took the other third, which they plan to give to their counterparts in Kentucky for distribution. (Mr. Colvin and his brother Noah bought some of the supplies in Kentucky this month.)

The donations capped a tumultuous 24 hours for Mr. Colvin. On Saturday morning, The New York Times published an article about how he and his brother cleaned out stores of sanitizer and wipes in an attempt to profit off the public’s panic over the coronavirus pandemic. Mr. Colvin sold 300 bottles of hand sanitizer at a markup on Amazon before the company removed his listings and warned sellers they would be suspended for price gouging.

As a result, Mr. Colvin was sitting on an enormous cache of sanitizer and wipes while much of the country searched in vain for them.

The article immediately sparked widespread outrage, with thousands of people posting angry comments across the internet about his actions.

 
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Many of those people also contacted Mr. Colvin directly with hate mail and death threats, while one man even banged on the door at his home late Saturday night, according to Mr. Colvin and several messages he shared with The Times.

In an hourlong interview on Sunday, Mr. Colvin expressed remorse for his actions and said that when he decided to hoard the sanitizer and wipes, he didn’t realize the gravity of the coronavirus outbreak or the severe shortage of sanitizer and wipes.

“I’ve been buying and selling things for 10 years now. There’s been hot product after hot product. But the thing is, there’s always another one on the shelf,” he said. “When we did this trip, I had no idea that these stores wouldn’t be able to get replenished

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/15/technology/matt-colvin-hand-sanitizer-donation.html

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11 minutes ago, primal defense said:

I'm gonna need more articles and/or data before I take the advice of the French. Especially when other country's scientists haven't come to the same conclusion.

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Hope everyone out there is staying safe.  Tough times all around. Hang in there and keep in touch with us here.

Without anything going on in the sports world it's tough to provide that kind of news, but were doing our best to get interviews with recruits, etc and will post as they are ready.

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13 hours ago, Baron said:

I'm gonna need more articles and/or data before I take the advice of the French. Especially when other country's scientists haven't come to the same conclusion.

Agree. Plus Advil is my drug of choice nowadays with all the aches and pains I have!  

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So far, it hasn't affected my business. Our crews generally have no contact with customers. I meet on average 3-4 people a day and I'm faithful with my hand sanitizer after each visit.

We have projects lined up for a few weeks with more coming. So I can't complain.

The traffic here in DFW is like another city entirely right now. No rush hours. Moderate traffic throughout the clock. Easy to get from one place to another fairly quickly.

Dallas has closed its restaurants and bars. The burbs have not. I ate out last night with the wife and things appeared normal overall.

If people remain diligent, this thing can be nipped in the bud fairly soon. I think within a month or two, we'll begin resuming normal day to day life again.

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WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION BACKS CALL TO AVOID IBUPROFEN FOR CORONAVIRUS

 

The World Health Organization (WHO) has recommended that people with COVID-19 symptoms avoid taking ibuprofen, after concerns were raised by French officials that it may make the virus more harmful.

 

A recent study in The Lancet medical journal, theorizing that an enzyme boosted by ibuprofen could enable and exacerbate COVID-19 infections, led France's Health Minister Olivier Veran to suggest via social media that the medicine be avoided.

 

https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/World-Health-Organization-backs-call-to-avoid-ibuprofen-for-coronavirus-621408

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1 hour ago, Sirhornsalot said:

So far, it hasn't affected my business. Our crews generally have no contact with customers. I meet on average 3-4 people a day and I'm faithful with my hand sanitizer after each visit.

We have projects lined up for a few weeks with more coming. So I can't complain.

The traffic here in DFW is like another city entirely right now. No rush hours. Moderate traffic throughout the clock. Easy to get from one place to another fairly quickly.

Dallas has closed its restaurants and bars. The burbs have not. I ate out last night with the wife and things appeared normal overall.

If people remain diligent, this thing can be nipped in the bud fairly soon. I think within a month or two, we'll begin resuming normal day to day life again.

So are you suggesting we all start landscaping businesses to stay afloat?😄

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51 minutes ago, MikeV73 said:

So are you suggesting we all start landscaping businesses to stay afloat?😄

It might be a little late for that idea. I'm blessed to not have some sort of interruption in this, thats all. I hope things return to normal soon.

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1 hour ago, Sirhornsalot said:

It might be a little late for that idea. I'm blessed to not have some sort of interruption in this, thats all. I hope things return to normal soon.

I work at a nursing home as a physical therapist...still working but not taking admits so our census is dwindling.  No positive residents thus far, hope that continues for our residents well being (and workers of course).   Our department could go on hiatus if we get hit or the govt decides to halt activity at nursing homes.  Hoping for the best!  Glad your working world is continuing uninterrupted amigo!

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