Bear19 3,698 Posted December 1, 2018 Report Share Posted December 1, 2018 RADFORD 62 TEXAS 59 at home embarassing OrangeLarry and dillohorn 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sirhornsalot 14,101 Posted December 1, 2018 Report Share Posted December 1, 2018 I've never seen a Texas basketball team play THAT bad. Bear19 and OrangeLarry 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeV73 3,234 Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 22 hours ago, Sirhornsalot said: I've never seen a Texas basketball team play THAT bad. Well, you haven’t seen my 10 year old daughter’s team ball out SHA. Sirhornsalot 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longhorn_mig 897 Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dillohorn 2,435 Posted December 2, 2018 Report Share Posted December 2, 2018 I was done with Shaka last season. Bear19, Mitch Hedberg and OrangeLarry 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longhorn_mig 897 Posted December 3, 2018 Report Share Posted December 3, 2018 The long pause before answering the first question is downright painful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeV73 3,234 Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 I attended the game tonight vs VCU....complete waste of time. This team is not being coached up, no tangible offensive sets are run, poor ball protection and lazy passes continue. This team is better than this, and this reflects on the coach. I have waited for him to produce, and have given him enough time. He needs to be terminated ASAP. Losing to radford and VCU is pathetic. Two losses in a row to his former assistants...that is pathetic and shows he doesn’t have what it takes to lead this team. CDC needs to make a move. OrangeLarry, Bear19 and dillohorn 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
83Dee 1,376 Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 PLEASE don’t build another 17K seat arena for basketball! What’s more embarrassing than the play is seeing half the seats are empty. MikeV73 and longhorn_mig 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MBHORNSFAN 2,962 Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 There were a string of games during the Strong era that deep in my soul I knew it was not going to work but there was always hope the next game it would begin to click.. That is where I am with Shaka... tick tock Bear19, longhorn_mig and MikeV73 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TexCoyote 1,128 Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 I don’t know all that much about CDC’s history of coaching changes. I don’t know if he would make a change or not. I just don’t understand why you can’t look better than that at Texas. It just seems like it takes so long to even see improvement at Texas. You look at other teams with less resources and they show improvement.... ie Tech, TCU, Baylor, Oklahoma and the list could go on. I guess I am not smart enough to understand the problem. We should have a top at least 15 team in every sport, every year. I hope CDC is the man to get us there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DBut82 1,206 Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 I think it's too early to determine whether or not Shaka is successful this season. I mean, we've beaten UNC and then back to back losses to Radford and VCU. The play has been inconsistent no doubt. But if this team places 2nd in conference (face it, no one is beating Kansas), makes the tournament and advances to the sweet 16, it would be kinda hard to say Shaka should be fired. We can complain and say "no way this team does this, that, yada yada yada. But we didn't expect this team to go as far as they did last year either. Give it time (again) and let's see how this squad is playing in March. HOOK 'EM!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longhorn_mig 897 Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 You know I'm the ultimate Shaka apologist and I'm in a very dark place after that loss. Not good. Just to give you a true appreciation of the dumpster fire that ensued at the end of the game: 7:09 - Dylan defensive rebound 6:51 - Dylan turnover 6:30 - Dylan defensive rebound 6:13 - Dylan turnover 6:09 - Dylan shooting foul 5:48 - Dylan turnover 4:54 - Dylan misses the front end of a 1-and-1 Dylan gets benched. Gee, I wonder why... From there: Jericho makes a FG, Matt turnover, Courtney turnover, Jaxson turnover, Kerwin brick, Jaxson turnover. That's downright depressing. Finally, Kerwin followed up his 2-12 FG, 1-7 3PT against Radford with a 1-11 FG, 0-3 3PT tonight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
83Dee 1,376 Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 hour ago, TexCoyote said: I don’t know all that much about CDC’s history of coaching changes. I don’t know if he would make a change or not. I just don’t understand why you can’t look better than that at Texas. It just seems like it takes so long to even see improvement at Texas. You look at other teams with less resources and they show improvement.... ie Tech, TCU, Baylor, Oklahoma and the list could go on. I guess I am not smart enough to understand the problem. We should have a top at least 15 team in every sport, every year. I hope CDC is the man to get us there. Agreed. When you get the “right guy” as a coach, improvement is typically seen almost immediately. Certainly by year 2. This facade that you cannot make judgments until they have all their own players in place is naive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DBut82 1,206 Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 I just think we get too trigger happy when it comes to coaching changes. @longhorn_mig post is really a great example. Like how do you put that on Shaka? Ya'll think he's coaching these boys to miss shots? java 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longhorn_mig 897 Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 That about sums it up. Bear19 and DBut82 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DBut82 1,206 Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 I will say this: if this team doesn't make the tournament, I would lean toward letting Shaka go... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tejasrulz 3,029 Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 21 FTs to 8 FTs, that was the difference. Some of those 21 FTs shouldn't have been taken while there should have been more than 8 taken. 1 hour ago, DBut82 said: I will say this: if this team doesn't make the tournament, I would lean toward letting Shaka go... Agree DBut82 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dillohorn 2,435 Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 Shaka should have been gone last season. Mitch Hedberg and Bear19 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bear19 3,698 Posted December 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 5 hours ago, MBHORNSFAN said: MikeV73 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bear19 3,698 Posted December 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 Another wasted year. It was clear after year two he was not the guy to get it done. And we ain’t going to no sweet 16. Yada yada yada. dillohorn 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longhorn_mig 897 Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 Shaka isn't going anywhere unless you can find a booster that cares enough about basketball to pay that $12.9 million buyout. If it was football, you'd have boosters lining up. Not going to be the case for basketball. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MBHORNSFAN 2,962 Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 1 minute ago, longhorn_mig said: Shaka isn't going anywhere unless you can find a booster that cares enough about basketball to pay that $12.9 million buyout. If it was football, you'd have boosters lining up. Not going to be the case for basketball. Buyout is 9 million after this year. CDC has a new basketball arena to fund. CDC will do what it takes... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longhorn_mig 897 Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, MBHORNSFAN said: Buyout is 9 million after this year. CDC has a new basketball arena to fund. CDC will do what it takes... Is it? I thought he was guaranteed through 2022-2023 thanks to the extension from Perrin. Here's the original terms: https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-sports/collegesheadlines/2015/05/12/see-the-full-details-of-shaka-smart-s-contract-with-the-texas-longhorns But then Perrin extended him another year: https://texassports.com/news/2016/8/25/university-of-texas-board-of-regents-approve-contract-extension-for-mens-basketball-coach-shaka-smart.aspx Before the new terms of that extension, I think it would have been $9 million. If I'm wrong, please let me know. That would make me feel better. Also, if that's the case, then someone needs to correct BON's reporting: https://www.burntorangenation.com/2018/4/2/17189646/shaka-smart-contract-guaranteed-texas-longhorns-chris-del-conte "After the 2018-19 basketball season, that number will drop to $12.9 million. That’s still a lot of money." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J.B. TexasEx 7,630 Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 10 hours ago, 83Dee said: PLEASE don’t build another 17K seat arena for basketball! What’s more embarrassing than the play is seeing half the seats are empty. It'll have to be at least that if ATX is paying half of the tab and wants to host concerts and special events there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longhorn_mig 897 Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 https://www.hookem.com/2018/08/03/texas-ad-chris-del-conte-creating-longhorn-live-womens-athletics-new-arena/ On a new Texas basketball arena: “We average about 9,000 for a home men’s basketball game. The stadium seats 16,000. It’s just too big. Our game times are at 8 o’clock. Interstate 35 is pretty hard to come back on at 8 o’clock. Television has made it so easy, you get a 60 or 80-inch TV at Ikea where you can never leave your couch. “The Drum has been great for us, the Erwin Center has been great, but I think that was built in ’76. It’s had its time, but we have to do that in a thoughtful manner. And that’s just where we’re at right now.” On building a smaller arena: “Now this is just my mind, no one else’s mind, so let’s just start with that. But there has to be, if you start with a lower bowl that seats say 10,000. You know that upper rake, couldn’t you have a garage door that comes down that’s padded? You never see those seats. “Somehow a garage door comes down right now and you never see my garage. Imagine if it was padded. You’d never open it up. Now, you have a 10,000 seat basketball stadium. You’re playing in the Spurs’ arena, close the gates on the upper rake and then open them up when you have a concert. Why can’t you do that? “No one ever thought you’d go from the 8-track to the cassette to the Discman to an iPod to the phone. … Someone’s going to find that technology at some point and time that works for everybody.” Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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