Longhorn News/Discussion (Non-Recruiting)

[Sirhornsalot]

9 minutes ago, Eastexhorn said:

Just a observation if his broke hand was interfering with catching the ball, then some one else should have been playing.

We have a winner. Exactly.

Apparently, the WR coach, OC and HC thought the kid with the broken hand was better at catching than those down the depth chart. I don't think that was a good move. 

[dssl]

37 minutes ago, Eastexhorn said:

Just a observation if his broke hand was interfering with catching the ball, then some one else should have been playing.

Unless he was still the best option available,  even at way under 100%

[Eastexhorn]

16 minutes ago, dssl said:

Unless he was still the best option available,  even at way under 100%

Not saying much for other WRS. If good enough to be recruited should be better than a hurt player. Not good to play hurt, ask Dizzy Dean.

[dssl]

32 minutes ago, Eastexhorn said:

Not saying much for other WRS. If good enough to be recruited should be better than a hurt player. Not good to play hurt, ask Dizzy Dean.

If the medical staff had ANY concerns that Worthy playing would cause long term problems , then it's very hard to believe that he would be willing to play or that the coaches would let him play.

[Eastexhorn]

9 hours ago, dssl said:

If the medical staff had ANY concerns that Worthy playing would cause long term problems , then it's very hard to believe that he would be willing to play or that the coaches would let him play.

any player worth his salt would wantto play. Hurt or not. As for as the coaches playing a hurt player I have no idea. Some would to win and some would not,

[tejasrulz]

19 hours ago, Sirhornsalot said:

The talent has not come in like it has under Sark since DKR. I think that's the head-scratching that you're causing with your "please me or be done with you" approach. Even in the short time he's been here, we've seen big time development under Sark. Players improve here now.

You're free to think what you like, but it seems foolish not to see the differences, if we truly did pay attention to teams of the past. I did. And I see a much different football program now.

 

Give Mack some credit for bringing in the kids he did in the early 2000 time period. The 2005 NC team was stacked with talent on both sides of the ball. Then he got lazy (he admitted that) and after losing to Bama tried to change his team on the fly which started his downfall here at Texas.

[North Texas Golfer]

28 minutes ago, tejasrulz said:

Give Mack some credit for bringing in the kids he did in the early 2000 time period. The 2005 NC team was stacked with talent on both sides of the ball. Then he got lazy (he admitted that) and after losing to Bama tried to change his team on the fly which started his downfall here at Texas.

Yea, until proven otherwise, the current Texas roster is not on the same level as the 2005 roster. 

I mean we are talking about a team that had 32 players appear in an NFL game and had 17 of 22 starters from the national championship game go on to the NFL. 

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2012/09/01/2005-title-team-helped-ut-become-one-of-nfls-top-college-football-factories/9851266007/#:~:text=In fact%2C a closer inspection,went on to the NFL.

[Eastexhorn]

Talent is great helps in winning. However talent alone is not enough. Luck or breaks play a part. Coachong plays a big part see Akers.

[dssl]

3 hours ago, Eastexhorn said:

any player worth his salt would wantto play. Hurt or not. As for as the coaches playing a hurt player I have no idea. Some would to win and some would not,

Players want to play for sure. And playing  injured with pain is definitely part of the deal.

But when the nature of the injury is that playing is likely to create long term problems then the coaches definitely shouldn't allow the player to play, and if they did it could harm the player, the program and the coaches career. I would assume that given Worthy's potential NFL future he wouldn't play AGAINST medical advice,  no matter how much he was wanting to play.

 

[Sunkist]

15 hours ago, Eastexhorn said:

Just a observation if his broke hand was interfering with catching the ball, then some one else should have been playing.

There isn’t a better route runner in the country to get open than X.   Only Marvin Harrison Jr is.   Maybe Ewers saw him open and was too tempted to throw.  

 

I agree with not playing him if his hands were broken.

[dssl]

57 minutes ago, Sunkist said:

There isn’t a better route runner in the country to get open than X.   Only Marvin Harrison Jr is.   Maybe Ewers saw him open and was too tempted to throw.  

 

I agree with not playing him if his hands were broken.

Hand(s) broken sounds bad, but it's hard to know exactly what bone was involved and how much of a problem it was for him. It sounds like it probably made it somewhat harder for him to catch the ball. 

What I find interesting is all the posters that think they have enough information and expertise to criticize the staff's roster decisions that are based on way more information and expertise. 

[oldhorn2]

1 hour ago, Sunkist said:

There isn’t a better route runner in the country to get open than X.   Only Marvin Harrison Jr is.   Maybe Ewers saw him open and was too tempted to throw.  

 

I agree with not playing him if his hands were broken.

say what ????? All I heard about last year was how he kept taking the wrong route to the ball. As fast as X is, if he was a superb route runner, he would be open all the time....

[Sirhornsalot]

4 hours ago, North Texas Golfer said:

Yea, until proven otherwise, the current Texas roster is not on the same level as the 2005 roster. 

I mean we are talking about a team that had 32 players appear in an NFL game and had 17 of 22 starters from the national championship game go on to the NFL. 

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2012/09/01/2005-title-team-helped-ut-become-one-of-nfls-top-college-football-factories/9851266007/#:~:text=In fact%2C a closer inspection,went on to the NFL.

Here, let me blow your mind a moment. lol

The 2005 Texas roster was indeed talented. However, the team wasn't so talented across the board. For example, the WR room was hardly anything to brag about. There was a reason David Thomas, a TE, was our best receiver.

I'd venture to say Johntay Cook, a WR who has yet to play a down here, would likely start for that 2005 team.

Vince carried that team. We had good role players and some surrounding talent. Thomas is a great example. The OL is a great example as well. But Vince HAD to take matters into his own hands because of our deficiencies at WR and RB.

 

 

[Eastexhorn]

Fastest WR in the world, and best route runner. Does not help his team if he does not catch the ball.

And IMO Worthy hurt the team and some coach made a bad decision to play him. Then hind sight is an easier decision.

And coaches do make mistakes some admit them and some are to stubborn .

[Sunkist]

1 hour ago, oldhorn2 said:

say what ????? All I heard about last year was how he kept taking the wrong route to the ball. As fast as X is, if he was a superb route runner, he would be open all the time....

His head wasn’t always there or maybe it was frustration.   QB throwing bad balls, not on same page with each other,  bad play calls,  defensive scheme, QB pressure.

I do believe when locked in he’s as good as anyone in route running.  

[Eastexhorn]

WRS  Quan.Sweed and someone named Shipley.

TE Thomas and Finley

RB  Charles, R. Taylor S. Young and Melton

 or abad  group.

[Billybass]

Sark needs to win, we can all agree on that. But he deserves a solid chance. To consistently undermine him at every opportunity after only 2 years is stupid.

 

[dssl]

2 hours ago, Eastexhorn said:

 

And IMO Worthy hurt the team and some coach made a bad decision to play him. Then hind sight is an easier decision.

A decision is made based on available information and expertise.  Not all well informed well reasoned decisions result in positive outcomes.  That doesn't make them bad decisions in hind sight. 

We also have no way of knowing what would have happened had Worthy not played. Maybe the defenses would have been able to take advantage of a compressed field. Maybe whoever would have taken his place would have caught less passes. If he hurt or helped the team isn't knowable. 

[Eastexhorn]

For sure we will never know. Worthy drop passes in several games did he not.

To keep making same decision and expecting different results is What?

We will never know what would happened if Worthy had been sub. for 100% correct. We do know what happened since he did play.

 

[TFloss32]

[Sirhornsalot]

2 hours ago, Eastexhorn said:

WRS  Quan.Sweed and someone named Shipley.

TE Thomas and Finley

RB  Charles, R. Taylor S. Young and Melton

 or abad  group.

Young wouldn't start for this team.

Cook would start. He is something that offense didn't have. 

 

[Eastexhorn]

Beach volley got a new head coach Metzger from UCLA.

Got a portal transfer in Ladies basket ball aT. Herron center from Kentuckyl Played HS at DeSoto.

[Eastexhorn]

3 minutes ago, Sirhornsalot said:

Young wouldn't start for this team.

Cook would start. He is something that offense didn't have. 

 

Let me file this away Cook is better than Quan or Shipley.

[Sirhornsalot]

5 minutes ago, Eastexhorn said:

Let me file this away Cook is better than Quan or Shipley.

I didn't say that. 

[Austin Horn]

2 hours ago, Billybass said:

Sark needs to win, we can all agree on that. But he deserves a solid chance. To consistently undermine him at every opportunity after only 2 years is stupid.

 

Not just win but serious winning