Daniel Seahorn Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Reese Leitao's scholarship will be honored by a Texas and he will join the team on campus this summer per Mike Perrin. hornag and killerjoe 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Seahorn Posted May 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Please play nice, guys. I know this is a touchy subject, but lets keep it in first gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Texas Golfer Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Okay, I'll play nice and start things by saying I think this is good news nor do I have any problem with it. Daniel Seahorn, oldhorn2, java and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasdalton Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Cant wait to hear the bitch fest about this. Im glad he was given a second chance. java 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB14 Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Well worded statement that should eliminate some of the chatter. Much better response than with Horny. North Texas Golfer and java 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slimer Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Daniel, do you know yet if he'll be in for Summer I or Summer II? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drgilbert Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 I'll play nice as well. I'm not happy with the decision. That's all I'll say on the subject. okiehorn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBHORNSFAN Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Lets be honest here. The only reason everyone cares and is will to give a 2nd chance because he has football talent. Dudes like him get popped everyday for selling drugs and most here and society as a whole could give two shits about them and a 2nd chance. Matter of fact most would be calling the drug dealer a POS shit especially if he had sold drugs at your kids school. Sirhornsalot and okiehorn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Texas Golfer Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Lets be honest here. The only reason everyone cares and is will to give a 2nd chance because he has football talent. Dudes like him get popped everyday for selling drugs and most here and society as a whole could give two shits about them and a 2nd chance. Matter of fact most would be calling the drug dealer a POS shit especially if he had sold drugs at your kids school. I'm guilty on all charges. UT1983 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear19 Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 I am very ambivalent about this. How is that for taking a stand? UTfish and CCausey11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Seahorn Posted May 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Daniel, do you know yet if he'll be in for Summer I or Summer II? Not sure, but since a decision has been made I assume he will report soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.B. TexasEx Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 I don't like this decision because it doesn't make UT look any better than other programs who overlook criminal behavior - say, OU. Having said that, my hope is UT keeps him on a very short leash since he was charged with a misdemeanor and is serving a probationary sentence. Is our new mantra, "Just win baby!", Tom? Embrey, UT1983, DMAC and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Texas Golfer Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 I don't like this decision because it doesn't make UT look any better than other programs who overlook criminal behavior - say, OU. Having said that, my hope is UT keeps him on a very short leash since he was charged with a misdemeanor and is serving a probationary sentence. Is our new mantra, "Just win baby!", Tom? Re: short leash Perrin's statement indicates that he is on a short leash. Bevostuntdouble 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Daddy Cane Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Lets be honest here. The only reason everyone cares and is will to give a 2nd chance because he has football talent. Dudes like him get popped everyday for selling drugs and most here and society as a whole could give two shits about them and a 2nd chance. Matter of fact most would be calling the drug dealer a POS shit especially if he had sold drugs at your kids school. Wouldn't that pretty much apply to every kid on the roster? We give a damn because they have football talent, that's all. I get your point, but the reality is that if you're s 4 or 5 star athlete the rules are different for you that for just about every other student at the University. Bevostuntdouble, Bear19 and North Texas Golfer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonan05 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 While I'm sure him being an athlete certainly helped. I'm not sure it's the only factor. I'm seem to remember reading he was a great student and was well respected around the school. I would be very interested to know if there are any students not on Athletics Scholarships who have a misdemeanor conviction and are still enrolled at Texas. I would be very surprised given the size of the school if there wasn't a rich frat boy or someone else who has had a run in with the law and has had it swept under the rug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMAC Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 I don't like this decision because it doesn't make UT look any better than other programs who overlook criminal behavior You nailed it. This does look like win at all cost Baby. Funny most of us said the same thing about Stoops and Briles and now we embrace it with open arms. Hypocritical. /puke Sirhornsalot, drgilbert and Embrey 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.B. TexasEx Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Wouldn't that pretty much apply to every kid on the roster? We give a damn because they have football talent, that's all. I get your point, but the reality is that if you're s 4 or 5 star athlete the rules are different for you that for just about every other student at the University. ...except Leitao was only a 3-star Bear19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primal defense Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 Lets be honest here. The only reason everyone cares and is will to give a 2nd chance because he has football talent. Dudes like him get popped everyday for selling drugs and most here and society as a whole could give two shits about them and a 2nd chance. Matter of fact most would be calling the drug dealer a POS shit especially if he had sold drugs at your kids school. North Texas Golfer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAHorn Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 I'm not sure how often this happens that an AD gets this involved, but Perrin was in Jenks, Okla., to visit with Reese's coaches (mainly Alan Trimble) before a decision was made. After a lengthy meeting with Trimble, it was Perrin's decision that Texas honor the scholarship. Reese was not allowed back on the Jenks campus following the arrest and finished the last class he needed online. If Texas had pulled the scholarship, another college would have stepped in. I'm glad Texas did this because there have been cases in the recent past were players at Texas were wrongfully accused of things and still were not allowed to return to the team even after their cases were ruled in their favor. Leitao is a good kid and no one here knows all the details of what happened, and likely never will. I'm fortunate to have a coaching friend at Jenks who I've known a long time and greatly respect who answered a lot of my questions and shed a lot of light on why this was given a downward departure from felony to misdemeanor. So put me on the pro-Leitao side, but with the aforementioned short leash. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, kick me in the a$$. Or something like that. java, Bear19, Daniel Seahorn and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prosfromdover Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 I'm not sure how often this happens that an AD gets this involved, but Perrin was in Jenks, Okla., to visit with Reese's coaches (mainly Alan Trimble) before a decision was made. After a lengthy meeting with Trimble, it was Perrin's decision that Texas honor the scholarship. Reese was not allowed back on the Jenks campus following the arrest and finished the last class he needed online. If Texas had pulled the scholarship, another college would have stepped in. I'm glad Texas did this because there have been cases in the recent past were players at Texas were wrongfully accused of things and still were not allowed to return to the team even after their cases were ruled in their favor. Leitao is a good kid and no one here knows all the details of what happened, and likely never will. I'm fortunate to have a coaching friend at Jenks who I've known a long time and greatly respect who answered a lot of my questions and shed a lot of light on why this was given a downward departure from felony to misdemeanor. So put me on the pro-Leitao side, but with the aforementioned short leash. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, kick me in the a$$. Or something like that. Yep. Perrin going signals it's not a normal situation. It's not just the coach but the AD. Yes if this keeps happening and kids turn out to be bad then we have to stop. But before we start worrying about looking bad, we have to look at situations individually and be flexible in our approach to them. If the kid was a thug, or had priors, or wasn't a good student, or wasn't well liked, then those give you pause. But when he's not any of those things, plus the situation may have had some very grey areas, well, not giving a kid a chance feels way more dishonorable than taking a chance on him. java and oldhorn2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon17 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 I really can't believe they let an admitted drug dealer on Campus. After all the stuff that has gone on in college sports. Why would you ever put yourself in that position. dillohorn and Embrey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirhornsalot Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 I'm torn. I think we've all made mistakes in our youth. And almost none of us had it waved in front of so many people as a kid like this has. I believe in second chances because I think in some cases, the kid takes advantage of it and gets their life back together. If there is a chance for that, I'm all for it. My alter-ego says the table was set for this young man. He had a scholarship in hand to one of the most prestigious universities in the world where he will have it all paid for in exchange for playing a game. IMO, once that scholarship was landed, everything in his life should have pointed to the day he arrived in Austin. And he put all that on the line for what? I have to think about this more. HOOKEM85 and UTfish 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillohorn Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 I think we should have passed on this problem child. Most of the time when schools have a problem recruit it doesn't end well. Usually the problems just multiply. Just my opinion. Embrey, J.B. TexasEx and Coot 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UTfish Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 I agree with all the previous posts, especially Bear's. On the face of it, it smells, but we do not have all the facts. As SHA said, we all have made mistakes and I also believe in second chances. IMO, he got that when the judge reduced the charge to a misdemeanor. He could still play college football and straighten out his life at another university. Smells kinda like Johnny Manziel to me. Horrible mistake, but I hope the young man learns the right thing from it. Bear19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasdalton Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 We have all made at least one bad decision in our lives. Im not a fan of drugs, my wife is a teacher in a not so good area of florida so i understand the gravity of this. She deals with this on weekly basis and still tells me, who is of another opinion, that kids these days need every opportunity to succeed in life and to never give up on them. We have a coaching staff that understands that they are in a position to mold these kids into young men and feel capable that it can be done. Winning keeps them from losing their jobs but that doesnt take away from the responsibility that they are taking on to help these kids stay on the right track. If Herman feels that this kid can succeed as a player and person than im in favor of the decision. MikeV73 and Big Daddy Cane 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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