Texas and Notre Dame talking...

[Nakona Horn]

About adding four more games. Per Kirk Bohls twitter.

 

[Lord Vader]

I'll believe it when a more reputable newsman picks up the story.

 

[Nakona Horn]

You don't find this information accurate?

 

[Lord Vader]

I dont always find Bohls accurate, don't care for his slant either. Anything he says I like to see elsewhere first.

 

[Donald Boyles]

kbohls @kbohls

Texas-Notre Dame "having conversations" about playing beyond 2 home-and-away series already scheduled (2015,2016; then again in 2019,2020).

 

[McQ]

Any chatter on this is good even if it is bohls. I would love to see a yearly series with them. Hopefully we will be good by then.

 

[Nakona Horn]

FYI there was a rumor going around a few places that Texas and ND were going to sign up for a 10 game series. Chip Brown mentioned it in a war room and Eric N. over at IT started a post about it as well. They wouldn't dis-continue their match up with Michigan without having someone lined up.

Bohls still has contacts in Belmont. I don't care for some of his opinions but I think he's fairly accurate on stuff like this.

 

[Lord Vader]

If you say others have talked about it Ill buy in.

That said, is it the best thing for Texas?

 

[Irish in SEC country]

If you say others have talked about it Ill buy in.
That said, is it the best thing for Texas?

I would answer, YES, but I am Irish.

I believe that talks about extending the series, even to making it annual, feature ND folks reminding Texas folks that if they have any desire to leave the Big 12, the ACC is ready for them, either as a half member in football like ND is now or as a full member in football, say with Baylor.

 

[Brasky]

It's a huge positive. If we can't get out of the Big 12 or make the Big 12 more respectable then we have to schedule OOC with national appeal. It's an absolute must.

I wish Texas and Notre Dame and OU could go out and just create a new conference, cherry picking from a dead Big 10 and maybe a couple ACC. Keep a couple of Big 12's. Obviously that's a pipe dream so the 2nd best thing is having appealing OOC.

 

[Nakona Horn]

I would answer, YES, but I am Irish.
I believe that talks about extending the series, even to making it annual, feature ND folks reminding Texas folks that if they have any desire to leave the Big 12, the ACC is ready for them, either as a half member in football like ND is now or as a full member in football, say with Baylor.

I think this is a great scenario. Irish, there are also reports of UT adding sports. One if the sports is lacrosse. Another rumored sport is men's soccer. Those are big time ACC sports , correct?

 

[BevoBlake]

If they do in fact extend the series to 4-10 games, I think the writing would be on the wall for a Conference change. Either Independent or ACC.

 

[Irish in SEC country]

I think this is a great scenario. Irish, there are also reports of UT adding sports. One if the sports is lacrosse. Another rumored sport is men's soccer. Those are big time ACC sports , correct?

Correct, and both are big for ND. Going ACC we expect to make our lacrosse and soccer even better on the field and more appreciated by students and football fans.

If Texas, with all its resources, were in the ACC, with all its connections, Texas would become the giant of both lacrosse and soccer in the southwest and the great plains.

That is similar to what ND expects for its baseball now: ACC membership will mean ND baseball becomes the best and most followed program located in the midwest.

 

[HornSolo]

I dont always find Bohls accurate, don't care for his slant either. Anything he says I like to see elsewhere first.

Plus he is from Taylor and you know how those guys can be.....

 

[joebobb]

ACC is a step down from the Big 12. They are the lowest rated of the power conferences. I pray Texas never takes a step back by joining this league.

 

[Nakona Horn]

ACC is a step down from the Big 12. They are the lowest rated of the power conferences. I pray Texas never takes a step back by joining this league.

You're thinking short term/present day.

The ACC has a higher ceiling than the Big 12 and will be different three, five, and ten years down the line. Look at the Big 12 NOW. Very average conference at best and the overall talent level will continue to erode.

55% of the US population will live in the ACC footprint by 2030. Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Florida, Georgia and NJ actually produce a ton of NFL talent per capita.

I encourage you to keep an open mind about the ACC and the future. Adding Notre Dame is huge.

 

[Mr. Cosell]

ACC is a step down because the bottom 40% of that league is full of deadweight.

The top half of the ACC can be very profitable under the right circumstances.

Big 12 doesn't have as strong a top half (from a TV sets and potential, but the Big 12 has 2 behemoths and not as many deadweight teams.

Combine the top 4 to 6 teams in the Big 12 with the top half of the ACC and you get a very nice balance.

 

[joebobb]

Since when did Notre Dam join the ACC in football. Last I counted they were still independent and will always be.

Also, who is the ACC school in NJ? Last I heard Rutgers was going to the BIG. The ACC footprint is a bit of a stretch. Lets look at the states.

FL, GA, NC, SC, VA, KY, MA, NY, PA.

In these states, FSU is 2nd to FL in fan passion but that is pretty close, so Florida is an ACC state.

GA is an SEC state with a few GA Tech fans in Atlanta. There are more Auburn fans in GA than GA Tech Fans. Tech is the 3rd school in the state. I would not give the ACC a strong presence here.

NC - ACC dominates the state. 4 schools, no competition.

VA - ACC controls the state.

KY - SEC State, Louisville has such a tiny market share in the state, it would be unfair to call KY an ACC state. Most cable operators would see that as the case too.

MA - Boston is a Pro Sports town. But BC is a nice addition otherwise.

PA - Penn is a Big 10 state. Penn State controls the state. Pitt has a small niche following in Pittsburgh and Western PA. However 90% of the fans follow Penn State. I don't thing fans would clamor to see ACC football because of Pitt.

NY - Syracuse is nice, but they are not NYC. Western NY is a different animal and not the New York Market.

You see, In reality you do not get the fan base in the new ACC that they are trying to sell. The schools are all #2-3 in their state and do not control the market. That is why the upside is not there and it is illusory

Besides NC and MA. The ACC will not be the dominate conference in the market vying for attention. It will always be the little brother to the SEC. Unless North Carolina becomes the next Florida, this will not change.

 

[alonghorn72]

It would be great for the fans. Of course so would LHN...