Fisher/Malzahn - The Big Questions

[TexasFirst1]

I get Saban staying in podunk at $7 million at 62 years of age. The important question is: Did both Fisher and Malzahn really say no to raise from $4 million+ to $7 million+ Saban money per year or did Patterson fail to offer the big money to them and settle for Strong at $5 million? Either $15 million extra over 5 years plus enormous upside if they achieve success at UT is irrelevant to Fisher/Malzahn given the circus at UT or Patterson never offered the big money. My guess is the latter. Unbelievable if that is the case given the huge fan/donor enthusiasm, recruiting and major college track record gaps between Strong and Fisher/Malzahn.

 

[TheContractor]

Sexton is the agent for both Saban and Fisher and maybe something has happened there. It doesnt make sense to us fans that Fisher was not considered.

 

[Alouha27]

Maybe Sexton said something to piss Patterson off.

 

[Pancho Negro]

I get Saban staying in podunk at $7 million at 62 years of age. The important question is: Did both Fisher and Malzahn really say no to raise from $4 million+ to $7 million+ Saban money per year or did Patterson fail to offer the big money to them and settle for Strong at $5 million? Either $15 million extra over 5 years plus enormous upside if they achieve success at UT is irrelevant to Fisher/Malzahn given the circus at UT or Patterson never offered the big money. My guess is the latter. Unbelievable if that is the case given the huge fan/donor enthusiasm, recruiting and major college track record gaps between Strong and Fisher/Malzahn.

No offense, but you're going to believe what you want to believe regardless of what the truth is. You clearly want to believe that "Patterson screwed this" so no matter what the storyline is, you'll believe it.

Nice life.

 

[TheContractor]

No offense, but you're going to believe what you want to believe regardless of what the truth is. You clearly want to believe that "Patterson screwed this" so no matter what the storyline is, you'll believe it.
Nice life.

I like CS as the new coach at Texas but no one will know the truth. Maybe he could have gotten Saban, Fisher, etc. Maybe they said no and Strong was the best guy left. Its hard to know.

I Do believe that the "higher up at Texas" that leaked this is a moron but i dont know his agenda either.

 

[drgilbert]

Didn't Patterson say he was not going to set a new precedent for coach's salary? If so, he

Is being true to his statement

 

[HornEsch]

We really have no clue what feelers were put out or not. Just because we did not hear about a meeting with a coach OR his agent does not mean it did not happen.

While Fisher was my number 1, when he went from being a coordinator to HC he was just as unproven (actually more) than Strong. So in a way he shows that you don't have to have a big splash to succeed.

 

[roanokehorn]

Fisher loves his team, you don't leave a FSU after a season like this, if he just wanted to make more money, he can always go to the pros, someone gets fired every year.

 

[HookemDTX]

Burton posted this last night.

"I'm told by someone in the room that the Korn-Ferry guy reportedly said he would "stake his career" on Fisher being a bad hire for Texas. Whatever. I disagree wholeheartedly. Just stupid"

 

[Alouha27]

Burton posted this last night.
"I'm told by someone in the room that the Korn-Ferry guy reportedly said he would "stake his career" on Fisher being a bad hire for Texas. Whatever. I disagree wholeheartedly. Just stupid"

Yeah that makes no sense to me.

 

[FamilyMan5]

Didn't Patterson say he was not going to set a new precedent for coach's salary? If so, heIs being true to his statement

That is what he said!!!

 

[TexasFirst1]

No offense, but you're going to believe what you want to believe regardless of what the truth is. You clearly want to believe that "Patterson screwed this" so no matter what the storyline is, you'll believe it.
Nice life.

You might try responding with a credible argument in support of Patterson's handling of the Strong outcome rather than empty platitudes. All the known public evidence indicates that Patterson blew it. If you have ANY evidence to the contrary, please offer it.

 

[TexasFirst1]

Didn't Patterson say he was not going to set a new precedent for coach's salary? If so, heIs being true to his statement

Paying Fisher or Malzahn the same as Saban would not be setting any new precedents.

 

[TheContractor]

You might try responding with a credible argument in support of Patterson's handling of the Strong outcome rather than empty platitudes. All the known public evidence indicates that Patterson blew it. If you have ANY evidence to the contrary, please offer it.

its possible Patterson blew it but there has to be some blame on the "Texas higher up" that leaked it early to the media. If true, you cant blame that on Patterson.

Maybe thats why BMDs were kept in the dark?

 

[hornonthe40]

You might try responding with a credible argument in support of Patterson's handling of the Strong outcome rather than empty platitudes. All the known public evidence indicates that Patterson blew it. If you have ANY evidence to the contrary, please offer it.

you have no evidence yourself. just your opinions. get over it. its done. lets move on and support our new coach and ad.

 

[PropositionJoe]

Honest question

Why would either one leave? What can they do at Texas that they can't do at their current school?

Money is not as a powerful motivator as we'd like to believe.

 

[TexasFirst1]

Fisher loves his team, you don't leave a FSU after a season like this, if he just wanted to make more money, he can always go to the pros, someone gets fired every year.

I have an FSU undergrad and a UT MBA with connections in both camps. Fisher likes FSU but he is not happy with the limited financial resources at FSU or the decision to stay in the ACC. Poor pay for his assistants was a big factor in having to replace 6 of his assistants this past year. The only way he would stay at FSU is if UT 1) did not offer significantly greater financial benefits for himself and assistants or 2) Patterson and the UT circus were not something that impressed him. A move to the NFL is not something that Fisher aspires to for family reasons.

 

[TexasFirst1]

you have no evidence yourself. just your opinions. get over it. its done. lets move on and support our new coach and ad.

The evidence is the tier 1 and 2 head coaches with much stronger track records than Charlie Strong and will not be coaching at UT. Excellence never arises from acquiescence to poor performance. You can rationalize this fail and climb on the underachievement train if you want. UT has been making these same mistakes with coaching hires for the last 40 years because people like yourself are perfectly content with mediocrity.

 

[TheContractor]

I can understand CS not being a Tier 1 coach, but not tier 2? Who are your tier 1 and 2 coaches?

bc according to you, it seems that only Saban and John Harbaugh are tier 1 bc they have won the most recent titles.