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Coaching Questions

echeese

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We know that Anthony Johnson is our new RB coach.

We know that aggie is chasing Brick and we suspect that CFS has interviewed the PSU(?) DL coach (Spence?)

And someone here has claimed we're hiring the Purdue DB coach.

Besides the obvious wikipedia stuff. . . anyone know what each would bring to the table.

I know Brick just finished a dynamite recruiting campaign but coaches have two jobs, recruit then develop.

Compare and contrast these guys. . .what do they bring as upgrades.

I am not worried about recruiting (we've already landed the top DL for 2017 and we could take 10 kids and be fine depth chart wise). . ..I am worried about coaches who can teach and develop and have no idea where Brick fits.

So who knows what. . . . give me some wild azzed opinions. . .

 
I thought Brick was known as someone who could develop talent. Didn't he coach and develop quite a few kids that turned pro?

 
I'm pretty sure Brick Haley knows he has a goldmine of recruits to develop at UT and aggy has squat plus the aggy head coach is on his last leg. It's obvious Sumlin is a dead man walking like the aggy program.  Milkmen need to come up with a new cheer with everybody yelling we are 4th place sec west. 

 
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Brick is a very solid position coach who some questioned his recruiting which he gave a resounding answer to that. hopefully Brick stays because Charlie is starting to have depth at all positions and the less turnover the better.

the WR coach will have the toughest coaching job next year with John Burt being best on roster and not many other answers.

the DB coach should be a pretty easy sell with all the young secondary talent, this position needs to be a recruiting ace.

Anthony Johnson will prove to be a star recruiter in his areas which will probably be Vaughn`s old area of Houston and southeast Texas

 
Didn't Brick and Chavis coach together at LSU?

If my memory serves me correctly, Brick was not treated so well at LSU. They weren't too broke up when he left.

His track record says, like Hale said above, that he's a pretty decent position coach, is a player's coach, but hasn't been one known for his recruiting prowness. He did have an excellent year in recruiting for Texas this year.

If Chavis and Brick were close at LSU, I could understand the desire he might have, especially if they're throwing up more money. However, Sumlin probably doesn't have much left in the tank at aggy.

 
Didn't Brick and Chavis coach together at LSU?

If my memory serves me correctly, Brick was not treated so well at LSU. They weren't too broke up when he left.

His track record says, like Hale said above, that he's a pretty decent position coach, is a player's coach, but hasn't been one known for his recruiting prowness. He did have an excellent year in recruiting for Texas this year.

If Chavis and Brick were close at LSU, I could understand the desire he might have, especially if they're throwing up more money. However, Sumlin probably doesn't have much left in the tank at aggy.
Brick and Chavis are extremely close. Brick has a lot of respect for Chavis and it is well documented that they are very close. 

 
Didn't Brick and Chavis coach together at LSU?

If my memory serves me correctly, Brick was not treated so well at LSU. They weren't too broke up when he left.

His track record says, like Hale said above, that he's a pretty decent position coach, is a player's coach, but hasn't been one known for his recruiting prowness. He did have an excellent year in recruiting for Texas this year.

If Chavis and Brick were close at LSU, I could understand the desire he might have, especially if they're throwing up more money. However, Sumlin probably doesn't have much left in the tank at aggy.
A general timeline of what went down at LSU:

Early December all defensive coaches are given contract extensions to sign.  All do except for CHavis who is upset because the contract doesn't guarantee his salary if Miles is fired.

Late December aggy reaches out to Chavis about becoming their DC, Chavis has still not signed his LSU extension.

End of December/First of the year aggy hires John Chavis as their DC.

Allegedly Chavis is given the option to sacrifice some of his salary so that aggy can buyout and hire some/one of his former assistants at LSU.  Doesn't happen.

USC decides not to retain Ed Orgeron as Head Coach.  Orgeron sits out the 2014 season in hopes that a HC job will be available for him in 2015.  No HC positions look to be available to Ed, so LSU sees a chance to hire him as DL coach.

Brick Haley is 'reassigned' to a closet some where in Tiger stadium and Orgeron is named the new DL coach.

Chavis would love to hire Haley as his DL coach at aggy, but because of the contentious nature of his leaving and possible litigation, LSU declines to waive Haleys buyout and aggy refuses to pay the buyout.

Haley has 900k guaranteed to him by LSU, so he has no interest in quitting and forfeiting that money.  Haley also has a son who is autistic and at least one report said Haley was worried about treatment options available elsewhere (The Haley's were very comfortable with treatment LSU had arranged for his son).  Haley and his wife are very involved in autism groups/charities around BR.

Chris Rumph informs Charlie Strong in early Feb that he is taking the Florida job.

Charlie Strong reaches out to Brick Haley shortly thereafter about becoming the DL coach at Texas.

Haley is hired Feb 13th as DL coach at Texas. 

Haley isn't a 'great coach' and isn't a 'great recruiter'.  He definitely had some connections/relationships in LA that helped us with Wilbon, Roach, DCG, and Aucoin - but Traylor played a role and Strong was the closer for those guys. 

LSU fans biggest criticism of Haley was that he wasn't someone who could go out and get the big recruit - they thought that Haley was a guy who far too often came in 'second place' in recruiting.  On the flip side - at LSU Haley had to work for a guy who didn't/wouldn't recruit in Chavis.

LSU fans also think that their Defensive Lines under-performed far too often considering the level of talent they had.  At least part of that can be explained in that Chavis seemed to favor more of a two gap style where the DL occupied blockers so that the athletes Chavis had at LB and Safety could make plays.

I don't want to lose Brick - both for his connections in LA and because I would love to maintain some continuity at the DL coach position.  But if Haley wants to reunite with Chavis - and aggy is willing to overpay him to do it - then lets go out and hire the best DL coach money can buy and look ahead to next season.

 
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Thanks for the timeline/commentary, HipHop

havis seemed to favor more of a two gap style where the DL occupied blockers so that the athletes Chavis had at LB and Safety could make plays.
That line makes me  :)  knowing aggy doesn't have the LBs or safeties to make Chavis D work.

 
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