A Tony Romo Perspective

[beevomav]

I was having this conversation on Tony Romo and the other person in the conversation made an interesting point on Romo. He said "Romo is good but not good enough to overcome bad teammates."

It got me to thinking on the point and I have concluded that it is a legitimate point and true.

I have always been a Tony Romo fan and have defended him against the idiots who say he is not a winner or such other nonsense but this point makes sense. It is also consistent with my point on Tony. I have never said he is a HOF QB or the best in the NFL. I have consistently maintained he is really good and top 7 to 10 QB.

I looked at the starting QB's in the league and applied the same criteria to them. How many QB's in today's NFL can you say they can overcome bad teammates and still win and not only that but win against other good teams.

First the ones I think can win without a good team around them: Brady, Brees, Rogers, Peyton.

Next level..ones that can win but need a more complete team: Romo, Eli, Rivers, Vick, Stafford.

Further down the chart is too early to tell..this list includes Cam Newton and nearly all the other young QB's who have not been around long enough.

The rest of the league's QB's seem to need a complete team and have to be controlled. IE number of attempts or dumping the ball..

Turns out Tony needs a better defense and a running game just like most other quarterbacks in the league.

I am sure I missed some other QB's. What are your thoughts?

 

[bbdude]

I think your assessment is accurate for the most part but I would think you have to put Eli in that first group (as much as it pains me to say that). 2 Super Bowls in the last 4 years is not shabby. I don't think he is a better qb than his brother but I think you have to attribute some success to him. Dallas has had fairly good talent during the Romo years yet they have struggled to make the playoffs or get past the first round. Also I think you have to mention Roethlisberger i that top tier when you look at the body of work he has put together.

Romo is a good quarterback, better than roughly 70% of the league's qb's. He has more toughness than most of them too. Go Cowboys.

 

[beevomav]

I think your assessment is accurate for the most part but I would think you have to put Eli in that first group (as much as it pains me to say that). 2 Super Bowls in the last 4 years is not shabby. I don't think he is a better qb than his brother but I think you have to attribute some success to him. Dallas has had fairly good talent during the Romo years yet they have struggled to make the playoffs or get past the first round. Also I think you have to mention Roethlisberger i that top tier when you look at the body of work he has put together.
Romo is a good quarterback, better than roughly 70% of the league's qb's. He has more toughness than most of them too. Go Cowboys.

The two I struggled with were Big Ben and Eli. Ben I passed on because that defense bailed him out. Notice how he dropped off the map when that defense got older?...and...to the point about Eli and Super Bowls. My criteria is about a QB carrying a team and not how many rings. Eli made some good plays but he has had that defense, a running game and miracle catches by wide receivers.

It's about carrying a team not having a good team around you. Eli and Ben have never had an awful defense and Romo has never had a good defense. Five games last season the defense, at the end of the game, allowed a winning drive. That led the NFL.

 

[bbdude]

I think Eli was the single most important reason the Giants were successful last year - particularly in the post-season (now I must go puke). You gotta have playmakers around you to be successful, no matter how many or how few. Unless you are Vince Young in a Texas uniform the one-man show is tough to pull off in the NFL.