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[UTfish]

Actually, it was "If ifs and buts were cotton candy, at Christmas time we'd all be dandy."

After the first time he said this, he became known as "Dandy Don Meredith."

My mother dated him at Mt Vernon High.

My brother-in-law played football with him. He said he was a smart a$$...but then again, so was my b-i-l.  I thought he was funny, but Bradshaw is funnier.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

My brother-in-law played football with him. He said he was a smart a$$...but then again, so was my b-i-l.  I thought he was funny, but Bradshaw is funnier.

He was a bit of a smart ass, but we all can be that. You couldn't find a friendlier guy. 

Meredith was, as many have said, a better basketball player than he was a football player. He used to score 40 a night back in the day.

 

[Eastexhorn]

Might have been a smart a$$ but was a hell of an athelte. Belive he made all state in football and baskerball.

 

[BWilk55]

If is a funny word. If Texas wins all of their games this year, they'll be National Champs. See! Easy to say, not easy to do.

He also just raised the temperature on his own hot seat. As the DC if it is his side of the ball failing to get it done, where do you go from there. 

 

[63_Texas_1]

Actually, it was "If ifs and buts were cotton candy, at Christmas time we'd all be dandy."

After the first time he said this, he became known as "Dandy Don Meredith."

My mother dated him at Mt Vernon High.

That's awesome your mother dated Don Meredith. He is one of my favorite Cowboys. Funny guy and great athlete.

Perhaps he said the quote you posted but he is also credited for the quote I posted. You can do a search on most any search engines to see he given credit for that, although that is an old saying. Sone reports dating vack to 1845. I think most credit him for saying it on national TV.







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I’m interested in the origin of the idiom:


If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas.



When was it first used? Is this the original idiom, or was there an older version? Furthermore, how should its meaning be interpreted?











The aphorism was coined by the Dallas Cowboys quarterback, Don Meredith, who later became a sports commentator for the TV show Monday Night Football in 1970.


17 December 1970, Ada (OK) Evening News, pg. 7, col. 1:

Howard Cosell: “If Los Angeles wins, it’s a big one, but San Francisco is still very much in it.”
Don Meredith: “If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we’d all have a merry Christmas.”












I'm old enough to remember him telling Howard Cosell that. I also loved how he would reply to Cosell's rant about he should have done this and that with, "Howard, it's a lot different down there on the field than it is here in the press box." I think of that line when the current announcers get carried away with their critiquing. 

I love his quote about running back, Walt Garrison, who was a real cowboy: "If it was third down, and you needed four yards, if you’d get the ball to Walt Garrison, he’d get ya five. And if it was third down and ya needed 20 yards, if you’d get the ball to Walt Garrison, by God, he’d get you five." ?

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[TFloss32]

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[BWilk55]

7 hours ago, TFloss32 said:

So the Pac12 would be back filling the USC and UCLA losses by adding San Diego state and at least 1 other school.

Does the Pac12 loss other schools is the big question.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

So the Pac12 would be back filling the USC and UCLA losses by adding San Diego state and at least 1 other school.

Does the Pac12 loss other schools is the big question.

I have heard Big 12 likes taking CU back and having a member on the west coast. 

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

So the Pac12 would be back filling the USC and UCLA losses by adding San Diego state and at least 1 other school.

Does the Pac12 loss other schools is the big question.

I've heard separate rumors about the AZ schools departing 

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

I have heard Big 12 likes taking CU back and having a member on the west coast. 

Regionally, it would make sense if the Big 12 grabbed Colorado, Arizona, ASU, and Utah. Not that regional alignment matters with WVU, cincy, and cfu in the fold

 

[BWilk55]

Regionally, it would make sense if the Big 12 grabbed Colorado, Arizona, ASU, and Utah. Not that regional alignment matters with WVU, cincy, and cfu in the fold

It is going to be really interesting to watch it all shake out.

If the Pac12 loses those schools and adds schools at the level of SDSU, how much incentive is there for a school like Oregon or Washington to remain? They still don't have a new media deal and it's not going to get any better for them with changes like this. Schools that can get on board elsewhere (like Oregon/Washington to Big 10) would really need to make a move to stay relevant.

 

[dssl]

It is going to be really interesting to watch it all shake out.

If the Pac12 loses those schools and adds schools at the level of SDSU, how much incentive is there for a school like Oregon or Washington to remain? They still don't have a new media deal and it's not going to get any better for them with changes like this. Schools that can get on board elsewhere (like Oregon/Washington to Big 10) would really need to make a move to stay relevant.

My gues is if the BIG12 gets Colorado and Arizona(maybe more) that Oregon and Washington are going to change conferences. If the B1G doesn't take them , then they will join the BIG12. They may be able to get some special deal that waves the exit fee when the media rights runs out.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

My gues is if the BIG12 gets Colorado and Arizona(maybe more) that Oregon and Washington are going to change conferences. If the B1G doesn't take them , then they will join the BIG12. They may be able to get some special deal that waves the exit fee when the media rights runs out.

Imagine a Midweek soccer game between Oregon and CFU or WV and Arizona? 

 

[Baron]

I have heard Big 12 likes taking CU back and having a member on the west coast. 

Colorado and UConn if stories are to be believed. I don't care how much any Longhorn hates the Big 12, I would love to see them pull in the four corners schools.

 

[dssl]

Imagine a Midweek soccer game between Oregon and CFU or WV and Arizona? 

The joys of a 4 time zone conference.  The B1G is already there, and the BIG12 seems to also think it's a good idea, and those are the most likely destinations if the PAC implodes.

 

[dssl]

Colorado and UConn if stories are to be believed. I don't care how much any Longhorn hates the Big 12, I would love to see them pull in the four corners schools.

Once we are out of the BIG12, I will care allot less,but still follow the soap opera. 

I think taking Uconn as a full member would be a dumb. People in Connecticut don't care about college football,  and football is what pays the bills. It would make travel worse, and be another mouth to feed.

 

[TFloss32]

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[63_Texas_1]

Neither conference evokes strength or confidence. As a famous poker player once noted, when you walk into the room and can't spot the mark, you are the mark. PAC 12 & to a lesser degree, Big 12, are acting in desperation. Both conferences should stay away from string players, especially if they are playing "Nearer, my God to thee."

 

[oldhorn2]

I have no memory of Meredith saying ShA's version, but many times I heard the"candy and nuts" version.

I also have to say that many in pro ball thought  ole Don might have been one of the best of the 60's

 

[Sirhornsalot]

I have no memory of Meredith saying ShA's version, but many times I heard the"candy and nuts" version.

I also have to say that many in pro ball thought  ole Don might have been one of the best of the 60's

No doubt. But his OL almost got him killed. Few QBs ever took more punishment.