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My completely armchair coach thoughts on this season

We're basically two plays away from two titles, IMO.

The 4th down pass into the end zone from the 7 yd line against Washington. And then the 4th and 1 fumble thiis year.

Imagine if we had not given up the fluke screen pass TD just before half. We would have been at the 1 yd line with a 7 pt lead, about to go up by 14.
Those two plays, the screen pass & the fumble, were kicks to the cojones.
 
Great year. Could have been better but I'm not complaining (too much). As others have said, Quinn took us to the semi-finals 2 years in a row. Not many teams can say that. He seems a little injury prone and hopefully he gets a chance somewhere to play whether it's in the NFL or NCAA. I know it won't be with Texas. Good luck Quinn and thanks.
 
So no one really has brought how bad our running game was?

Go look at what we got from our running backs in 3 of the last 4 games, i.e. Georgia, ASU, and Ohio State.

It was beyond bad. Think more like putrid. From our running backs, we got 167 yards rushing on 58 carries in those 3 games.
 
I think this probably rounds out the top 5 of QBs at Texas: Vince, Colt, Quinn, James Street and Bobby Lane. Any others that should be added to that list?
I'd put Street at #1 since the man never lost a game he started at Texas, followed by Vince. He wasn't the most talented or athletic, but he was a winner. Plus he was a great guy, I had the pleasure of talking to him a couple of times.

Nobody is going to mention Card? Wasn't he the savior to some on this board? :sneaky:
 
Johnny, is that you?

The Shining GIF
 
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Quinn without question the best Texas QB since Colt. Ehlinger only one in the conversation, hard to compare given how different the players were around them.

Where Quinn fits behind Colt and Vince is an interesting debate. Perhaps a few names from the DKR days but also hard to compare given how different the QB position is these days.
I don't disagree, but Garrett Gilbert was screwed by Mack's sudden decision to change the offense and David Ash with his concussions. But one is dear to my heart, Peter Gardere.
 
So no one really has brought how bad our running game was?

Go look at what we got from our running backs in 3 of the last 4 games, i.e. Georgia, ASU, and Ohio State.

It was beyond bad. Think more like putrid. From our running backs, we got 167 yards rushing on 58 carries in those 3 games.
Did you consider the amount of injuries incurred by the RB room? Did you really consider Wisner a thousand yard back when the season started? Just take a step back.
 
I don't disagree, but Garrett Gilbert was screwed by Mack's sudden decision to change the offense and David Ash with his concussions. But one is dear to my heart, Peter Gardere.
Yeah, Gilbert could have been great.

Garderes win record over OU definitely puts him up there. The overall win-loss record was not great.
 
Did you consider the amount of injuries incurred by the RB room? Did you really consider Wisner a thousand yard back when the season started? Just take a step back.

The lack of a running game in games against the better teams really hindered the offense. You're pretty much playing with one arm behind your back in those games when your running backs average less than 3 yards a carry. And that's on both the running backs and offensive line.

And, let's face it, 1000 yards in a season is not the milestone it used to be with as many games as they play now. Something like 49 players ran for 1000 yards this year.

And, yes, I know that our projected starter missed the entire season.
 
As far as QB's per system at Texas,James Street ,30 straight wins ,1 natty, key passes when needed. That is standard that was set.
Street is a legend no doubt. A 20-0 record, a football natty and a perfect game and 3 CWS trips on the diamond.

It's hard to compare QBs from such different Eras, running such different offenses. Street threw for 10 touchdowns over his 22 game career to go along with 1800 career passing yards. He obviously ran the ball quite a bit too but for about only 400 yards per year. Colt and Vince ran what he did in a season and doubled his passing output. Different times of college ball of course but I do think it is fair to say that more is asked of QBs these days.
 
Street is a legend no doubt. A 20-0 record, a football natty and a perfect game and 3 CWS trips on the diamond.

It's hard to compare QBs from such different Eras, running such different offenses. Street threw for 10 touchdowns over his 22 game career to go along with 1800 career passing yards. He obviously ran the ball quite a bit too but for about only 400 yards per year. Colt and Vince ran what he did in a season and doubled his passing output. Different times of college ball of course but I do think it is fair to say that more is asked of QBs these days.
You measure their success. Nothing else.
If you put Street into today's game he is Riley Leonard at best. If you put Quinn in the sixties he doesn't get a chance to showcase his arm talent. WR's are mauled at the los and Quinn can't run the triple option.
This argument is moot if you go beyond success.
 
The OL was overrated all year. The inability to run the ball against the good defenses caused all our problems. Once the D figured this out, they tee'd off on the pass rush and pressured Ewers a lot. The games we looked good was when the OL could run the ball.
 
You measure their success. Nothing else.
If you put Street into today's game he is Riley Leonard at best. If you put Quinn in the sixties he doesn't get a chance to showcase his arm talent. WR's are mauled at the los and Quinn can't run the triple option.
This argument is moot if you go beyond success.
I read he stated "standard was set," not success. Winning a national championship and winning 30 straight games is a standard, a benchmark. They play games to win, not to showcase various talents. Showcasing talents are byproducts. How many here would rather see QE throw 600 yards last week and Monday night only to lose, (but he had great arm strength!); whereas, he threw for half that and won a national championship? If so, then we have different metrics of standards.

As I posted earlier: Stars shine; champions win championships.
 
I read he stated "standard was set," not success. Winning a national championship and winning 30 straight games is a standard, a benchmark. They play games to win, not to showcase various talents. Showcasing talents are byproducts. How many here would rather see QE throw 600 yards last week and Monday night only to lose, (but he had great arm strength!); whereas, he threw for half that and won a national championship? If so, then we have different metrics of standards.

As I posted earlier: Stars shine; champions win championships.

The game has changed so much. In the 60s we win all our games and play in the Cotton Bowl against what second place team from another conference or Notre Dame and the they would vote for the champion. The BCS made it so the top 2 teams played for the championship. Then 4 now 12. It is much harder to win now. You have to win 3 or 4 games against good competition to win it. Winning 30 straight in the 60s was great. I’d say it’s almost impossible now and might only get you one championship. Same as we had then but it could be in two seasons instead of three. The competition has changed. Back then we could hog all the players and not allow them to transfer. Can’t do that now.
 
I read he stated "standard was set," not success. Winning a national championship and winning 30 straight games is a standard, a benchmark. They play games to win, not to showcase various talents. Showcasing talents are byproducts. How many here would rather see QE throw 600 yards last week and Monday night only to lose, (but he had great arm strength!); whereas, he threw for half that and won a national championship? If so, then we have different metrics of standards.

As I posted earlier: Stars shine; champions win championships.
I really don't want to downplay James Street as a player but:
It was 20 straight games, not 30 as has been stated several times. Still incredibly impressive but 30 is a different stratosphere.

QBs also get all the credit for the wins and take the blame for the losses. Is Street the best QB at Texas because the team won 20 straight? Doesn't that also make the LG the best LG of all time since the team won 20 straight. Does it make those defenses the best defenses of all time?
 
No, I don't think it translates as you're suggesting. What if Texas won 30 straight games by only one point? That would mean the defense probably wasn't very good. It was only good enough.

But I think completing a long pass to Peschel on 4th down in the 4th quarter with his team down in what was essentially the national championship – would leave me to believe he was an exceptional QB. He stepped up when his team needed it.

The best players show up in the critical moments. Not so much in the personal stats.

Staubach doesn't have many passing records. But I think we can agree he is one of the best of all time.
 
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