12 Team Playoff

[Sunkist]

It will be very interesting to see how they treat the CCG loser, particularly when the score is close.

I know this isn't a popular opinion, but I think they should eliminate the CCG and go to a 16 team payoff.

I still think Georgia wins the national title last year if they made the playoffs.

 

[hookemhorb]

I still think Georgia wins the national title last year if they made the playoffs.

Perhaps, but I'm sure there are a lot of teams that were peaking at the end of last season thought the same thing. Conference Champs and Head to head has to count for something.

 

[dssl]

Eliminating the CCG game would make more sense if everyone in your conference played each other. Otherwise how do you really know who is the best team? Especially if one team has a "weaker" schedule.

Since no 2 teams play the same conference schedule you already don't "really know who is the best team", or best 2 teams.

Although the conference champions would be a bit more arbitrary to select, the fact that all 16 teams in the playoff would have played the same number of games, and the team that can win 4 playoff games would be the clear national champions.

My preference would be for the the conference champions to be selected after ALL of the games are played and pick the highest ranked team as the conference champions. Maybe AP poll, or maybe something else

 

[Baron]

 

[Baron]

 

[hookemhorb]

Well, well, well. As we head into the final month of regular season. There are still a few teams that hold their destiny in their own hands and those that need a little help.

Let's look at the group of 5 contenders. Right now the only ranked teams are Army and Boise St. For now it's Boise St's to lose. They have the easier schedule. Navy still has an outside chance but really needs for Army to beat ND and then they beat Army. This assumes Boise St stumbles. I really don't see anyone else with a shot. I'm a little confused about Washington St. Are they considered part of this group of 5? If so, they're like Navy. They need help as they lost to Boise St, but are ranked.

The ACC has 4 teams in it--Pitt, SMU, Clemson and Miami. The Ponies play Pitt this weekend. If they can get past Pitt, they have the easier schedule and should be undefeated in conference play. Clemson has the tougher schedule, including Pitt, but their only loss is to Georgia so I feel they can lose another game and still make it to the playoffs. Miami has Duke and GTech the next two weeks. Win those 2 games and they should be undefeated and an invitation to the CFP regardless of what happens in the CCG. I don't know what the tiebreaker rules are for the ACC CCG but there could be 3 teams without conference losses. So it's possible we see 3 teams from the ACC going to the CFP.

The Big 12 is a 3 team race--BYU, Iowa St and Kansas St. BYU should make the CCG and ISU and KSU play at the end of the season. Winner goes to the CCG. Prime's team is outside looking in. They need 2 teams to stumble for a chance at the CCG so they need to win out for a shot. I see at most 2 teams from the Big 12 making the CFP.

If ND wins out, they are in.

I need more time for the Big 10 and SEC. Will put in another post.

 

[hookemhorb]

The Big 10 - this is a 4 team race with 2-3 teams making the CFP. Oregon, Penn St, Ohio St and Indiana have got a shot. Unless there is an upset, Oregon and Penn St are in. Ohio St really needs to win this weekend against Penn St or stands a chance of being left out in the cold. A 2 loss Ohio St team would mean they get compared to 1 & 2 loss SEC teams and 1 loss ACC and Big 12 teams for the last couple of slots. Indiana really needs to beat the Buckeyes to have a legitimate shot at making the CFP. I'm not really sold on them yet. If Ohio St beats Penn St and the Hoosiers keep the game close with the Buckeyes they may get a nod from the pollsters and eke in. They would be the 4th Big 10 team, assuming they go 11-1.

The SEC is chaos. Half the teams still have a chance, some slim but win out and you never know. Any team with 3+ losses is out of the CFP contention. It's going to get interesting in the next couple of weeks. This weekend's 'Bama and LSU game will eliminate one team. Ole Miss has to play Georgia and needs a win there or they are out. I feel the 1 loss teams can afford another loss and still be in contention for a spot in the CFP. That's Tennessee, Texas, Georgia and the aggies. By the end of the regular season there could be 5 to 6, 1 or 2 loss SEC teams. How many will make it to the CFP?

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Well, well, well. As we head into the final month of regular season. There are still a few teams that hold their destiny in their own hands and those that need a little help.

Let's look at the group of 5 contenders. Right now the only ranked teams are Army and Boise St. For now it's Boise St's to lose. They have the easier schedule. Navy still has an outside chance but really needs for Army to beat ND and then they beat Army. This assumes Boise St stumbles. I really don't see anyone else with a shot. I'm a little confused about Washington St. Are they considered part of this group of 5? If so, they're like Navy. They need help as they lost to Boise St, but are ranked.

The ACC has 4 teams in it--Pitt, SMU, Clemson and Miami. The Ponies play Pitt this weekend. If they can get past Pitt, they have the easier schedule and should be undefeated in conference play. Clemson has the tougher schedule, including Pitt, but their only loss is to Georgia so I feel they can lose another game and still make it to the playoffs. Miami has Duke and GTech the next two weeks. Win those 2 games and they should be undefeated and an invitation to the CFP regardless of what happens in the CCG. I don't know what the tiebreaker rules are for the ACC CCG but there could be 3 teams without conference losses. So it's possible we see 3 teams from the ACC going to the CFP.

The Big 12 is a 3 team race--BYU, Iowa St and Kansas St. BYU should make the CCG and ISU and KSU play at the end of the season. Winner goes to the CCG. Prime's team is outside looking in. They need 2 teams to stumble for a chance at the CCG so they need to win out for a shot. I see at most 2 teams from the Big 12 making the CFP.

If ND wins out, they are in.

I need more time for the Big 10 and SEC. Will put in another post.

Miami is fools' gold. That defense is awful.

Clemson is a really good team, right now.

Pitt-SMU should be a great game. Winner is still ini it.

BYU is legit. I expecct to see them and ISU in their cconference championship. Winner goes CFP, IMO.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

The Big 10 - this is a 4 team race with 2-3 teams making the CFP. Oregon, Penn St, Ohio St and Indiana have got a shot. Unless there is an upset, Oregon and Penn St are in. Ohio St really needs to win this weekend against Penn St or stands a chance of being left out in the cold. A 2 loss Ohio St team would mean they get compared to 1 & 2 loss SEC teams and 1 loss ACC and Big 12 teams for the last couple of slots. Indiana really needs to beat the Buckeyes to have a legitimate shot at making the CFP. I'm not really sold on them yet. If Ohio St beats Penn St and the Hoosiers keep the game close with the Buckeyes they may get a nod from the pollsters and eke in. They would be the 4th Big 10 team, assuming they go 11-1.

The SEC is chaos. Half the teams still have a chance, some slim but win out and you never know. Any team with 3+ losses is out of the CFP contention. It's going to get interesting in the next couple of weeks. This weekend's 'Bama and LSU game will eliminate one team. Ole Miss has to play Georgia and needs a win there or they are out. I feel the 1 loss teams can afford another loss and still be in contention for a spot in the CFP. That's Tennessee, Texas, Georgia and the aggies. By the end of the regular season there could be 5 to 6, 1 or 2 loss SEC teams. How many will make it to the CFP?

IMO, Ohio State is your best team in the Big 10. I know, I know, Oregon beat them. But that was a home game for Oregon. On a neutral field, OSU takes it.

Penn State will have to show me they can beat OSU and Miichigan. Until then, it's the same song, 12th verse.

Indiana is the surprise here. They could possibly get into their championship game instead of OSU. Oregon vs Indiana?

My question to you is – if Ole Miss were to beat Georgia, that leaves Georgia with two losses. Does that eliminate them?

Tennessee plays Georgia and I think thats where they get their second loss.

Texas – Texas A&M present a possible situation. The two teams may have to play two weekends in a row if Texas beats them in November. How ironic. Aggy has never played in the conference championship game and the first time they do, they get beat by big brother. lol Big brother gets the title in their first year. lol

Aggy is playing good football right now.

 

[Baron]

Penn State will have to show me they can beat OSU and Miichigan. Until then, it's the same song, 12th verse.

Texas – Texas A&M present a possible situation. The two teams may have to play two weekends in a row if Texas beats them in November. How ironic. Aggy has never played in the conference championship game and the first time they do, they get beat by big brother. lol Big brother gets the title in their first year. lol

Aggy is playing good football right now.

Isn't Penn State's QB hurt? ...I just checked and Allar practiced at full speed today. I might have to change my common man's prediction.
If aggy doesn't lose at S Carolina this week then Texas has to beat them to play in the SEC CCG.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Isn't Penn State's QB hurt? ...I just checked and Allar practiced at full speed today. I might have to change my common man's prediction.
If aggy doesn't lose at S Carolina this week then Texas has to beat them to play in the SEC CCG.

If Texas and Georgia win out, then there would be a three-way tie at the top. With the head-to-head, Georgiia would be 1-0, Texas would be 1-1, and aggy would be 0-1. Texas and Georgia would play for the conferencce championship.

Not only would we make the CCG, we'd knock out aggy on the way in.

 

[hookemhorb]

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Not only would we make the CCG, we'd knock out aggy on the way in.

 

[Billybass]

If Texas and Georgia win out, then there would be a three-way tie at the top. With the head-to-head, Georgiia would be 1-0, Texas would be 1-1, and aggy would be 0-1. Texas and Georgia would play for the conferencce championship.

Not only would we make the CCG, we'd knock out aggy on the way in.

Horns better bring their A game. Ags are playing damn good right now. Their Dline is legit. And we are having problems keeping the pocket clean.
Sark is going to have to throw some screens/slants to slow those guys down.
Ags will be pumped for this game, just like Georgia was.
We can win, but we will have to play our best.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

Horns better bring their A game. Ags are playing damn good right now. Their Dline is legit. And we are having problems keeping the pocket clean.
Sark is going to have to throw some screens/slants to slow those guys down.
Ags will be pumped for this game, just like Georgia was.
We can win, but we will have to play our best.

That aggy secondary is pretty bad. Evrerybody has been rackcing up the passing yards against them. Its easy to look good when your schedule is so soft.
Aggy Dline isn't as good as Georogia's was.

 

[PTA]

Horns will have to throw past the depth of the LBs to be effective.

 

[hookemhorb]

This past weekend was another edition of "That's why we play the games" as there were some significant upsets that play an important factor in the CFP picture as teams that needed help may have just gotten it.

Let's start with the ACC. It's Miami and SMU in the driver's seat. Win out in the regular season and they will meet in the CCG. Both should get the nod for the CFP. Pitt and Clemson are the losers looking in. They play each other in a couple of weeks so the loser is out. They both need to win out for an at large bid for the CFP. I'm not sure they will get a bid but they at least have a puncher's chance.

The Big 12 just shot themselves in the foot. Kansas St and Iowa State both lost. BYU is almost a shoo-in for the CCG and if they win out in the regular season should make the CFP regardless of what they do in the CCG. ISU needs to win out to make the CCG and needs to win it or keep it close for a bid to the CFP. Don't look now but Primetime and his team have an outside chance of making the CCG and the CFP if they just win. Hope Prime is keeping receipts because this just came out left field for me. They need KState to beat the Cyclones in their regular season finale to get in. KState needs Colorado to stumble and if they win out they will be in the CCG with a shot at making the CFP.

The Big 10 has 4 horses in this race. Oregon is sitting in the catbird seat. Win out and they will go to the CCG and the CFP, regardless of the outcome of the CCG. Indiana and OSU will play each other so the winner will go to the CCG, assuming they win the rest of their regular season games and the loser may be the odd man out if only 3 teams make the CFP from the Big 10. If Penn St wins out, they have a good shot of getting a bid to the CFP. This will all come down to the rankings at the end of the season.

In the Group of 5, there are just 3 teams that stand a chance of making the CFP--Notre Dame, Army and Boise St. Again, does Washington State belong in here? Notre Dame has the inside track. They need to win out which means beating Army. Army's longshot of making the CFP with 1 loss went down the drain when Navy lost this past weekend. I was hoping Army or Navy would make the CFP but I don't think it will happen. Besides Notre Dame, it's Boise St's bid to lose.

The SEC has 5 teams with 1 conference loss so it's going to get interesting. The regular season games will knock teams out. How many of these teams will make the CFP? Tough to say at this point. I can say the loser of this weekend's game between LSU and 'Bama is out of the running. I'm pretty sure no 3 loss team will make the CFP so Ole Miss needs to beat Georgia in a couple of weeks or they are out. Another loss and the aggies will be out too. Georgia, Texas and Tennessee can afford another loss and will probably make the CFP.

 

[Sirhornsalot]

In the Group of 5, there are just 3 teams that stand a chance of making the CFP--Notre Dame, Army and Boise St. Again, does Washington State belong in here? Notre Dame has the inside track. They need to win out which means beating Army. Army's longshot of making the CFP with 1 loss went down the drain when Navy lost this past weekend. I was hoping Army or Navy would make the CFP but I don't think it will happen. Besides Notre Dame, it's Boise St's bid to lose.

As long as Army keeps winning, they're going to be in ccntention . . If they beat Notre Dame, they're in, IMO. But I'm not sure that will happen. Too bad we can't have Army and Boise do a play-in. lol

 

[dssl]

As long as Army keeps winning, they're going to be in ccntention . . If they beat Notre Dame, they're in, IMO. But I'm not sure that will happen. Too bad we can't have Army and Boise do a play-in. lol

A play in game of the top 2 non power 4 teams sounds like a great idea. 2 teams with a chance, and they have to play a 13th game, just like the top power 4 teams.

 

[hookemhorb]

Whoa Nelly!!! This is getting good.

This week we'll start off with the Big 12. What a shambles. The only way 2 teams make the CFP is if BYU wins out and loses the CCG. Right now it's Colorado's ball to fumble as ISU and KSU have stumbled. Prime's got a couple of tough games left so who knows. BYU needs to win 2 of their last 3 to get into the CCG. I think if they win the last 3 regular season games they will get a spot in the CFP.

The SMU Ponies are sitting on top of the ACC. They have 3 manageable games left. The Clemson-Pitt game this weekend is an elimination game. Loser is out of CCG and CFP. This is Clemson's last conference game so win and they are in the running for the CCG. They have much improved S. Carolina at home at the end of the season. Winning the ACC CCG may be their only chance to get into the CFP if they lose taht one. Win out and they could get an at-large bid to the CFP, if they don't make the CCG. Miami needs to win out also for a shot at the CCG and CFP. The ACC may only get 1 team in the CFP. This could come down to the polls.

Right now, the Group of 5 is the most stable. We got Boise St at the top and I'll put Army 2nd for the time being. Washington St is 3rd. Right now, it's Boise St's to lose.

The Big 10 has 4 teams vying for spots in the CFP. The big game will be Indiana vs OSU in a couple of weeks. Win or lose, I believe Indiana is in the CFP unless they are completely blown out. An OSU loss and they will at the mercy of the polls to get in. Oregon and PSU need to win out and they are in the CFP. These 4 teams could make the CFP at the expense of a 2nd Big 12 and/or ACC team.

The SEC picture is clearing up a bit as far as CCG. There are 3 1 loss teams so basically win and you're in, lose and it becomes a logjam again. Of course Texas and the aggies will play each other so one of these teams will be eliminated from the CCG and Tennessee has to get past Georgia so it could come down to the tiebreaker for one or both teams for the CCG. The polls will decide which SEC teams get an at large bid to the CFP.

There could be 5 SEC teams that get into the CFP depending on what happens in the other big 4 conferences, but if ND beats Army and wins out, then ND and Boise St will probably get in plus the 4 Conference Champs. That leaves 6 other teams. I'm pretty sure 3 teams from the Big 10 will make it and 2 teams from the ACC or Big 12 will make it. It just depends on how this all plays out and if there are any upsets in the CCG.

 

[hookemhorb]

2 weeks left and it's getting down to the wire. A few teams need to impress the pollsters in order to get into the CFP.

Once again we will start off with the Big 12. With BYU's loss, this pretty much guarrantees only 1 team from the Big 12 will make the CFP. I don't think the loser of the Big 12 CCG, a 2 loss BYU or a 3 loss TBD is going to get a bid to the CFP. They would need help from other conferences to get a 2nd team. Notre Dame will be taking their 2nd spot provided they beat USC.

The ACC has 3 possible teams that could make the CFP. The Ponies are sitting on top of the ACC and have a fairly "easy" remaining conference schedule. Win and they make the CCG and the CFP regardless of what they do in the CCG. Miami has Wake Forest this week and travel to a dangerous Syracuse team the last week. They are going to need to win both these games to for a shot of the CFP. Clemson has South Carolina at the end of the season. That's a must win game for them or they are out of the playoff picture. I don't know what the tiebreaker rules are for the ACC but if they all win out, the odd team out may be a blessing as they could very well get an invite to the CFP and the loser of the CCG may be out of the playoffs.

So the Big 12 and ACC's CCG could possibly be an elimination game.

There is talk that the winner of the AAC might get the nod for the Group of 5 conference champ. That would be Army or Tulane. I don't really see that happening unless Boise St losses a game (unlikely, but you never know). Boise St is ranked ahead of both those teams and unless Army beats ND, neither Army or Tulane will jump Boise.

The Big 10 has 4 teams vying for spots in the CFP. The big game will be Indiana vs OSU this week. A competitive game and they both make the CFP. A blow out and the loser is at the mercy of the polls to get into the CFP. Penn St needs to win it's last 2 games and with their #4 ranking, they'll easily get an invite to the CFP. Oregon is pretty much in the CFP whether they beat Washington or not. I don't see them falling too far should they get upset. Again not sure what the tiebreaker rules are for the Big 10, but the loser of the CCG may be out, if it is their 2nd loss. A 4th team could go to the CFP but with Notre Dame ranked in the top 10 I don't see that happening.

As far as the SEC and the CFP go, I'm pretty sure 4 teams will get in. I don't know who but there will be a couple of teams that will get their feelings hurt. The loser of the CCG might be out. The pollsters are keeping the teams close so I'm not sure how the committee will handle the losers of the CCG. Is the CCG an elimination game?