Agree with Primal on the MVPs.

Except that pitch to the short side on 4th and short. Makes my blood boil. How unaware of the situation do you have to be to run some new-fangled pitch to the short side on a crucial down? I mean just simple freaking spacial awareness tells you a pitch to the short side with defenders all packed in there, especially against a fast team, is DUMB. Mbhornsfan maybe we can agree to fire Herman if he does that again?

I'm just nick picking here, but I thought Collin Johnson was the offensive MVP and Caden Sterns was D MVP. I watching a CBS video and they named Caden as the national defensive player of the week. Herman couldn't answer on how many elite players he had on the team before the season. At this point I can see we have at least three, Collin Johnson , Caden Sterns, and Keaontay Ingram. I believe we can beat Kansas State without Keaontay, but we need him fully healthy for OU.  

We are still just battered fans... but you are right, these two wins are nothing to sneeze at. This tcu squad gave ohio state all it could handle last week on primetime.

I'll eat crow for sure... they played their tails off against TCU. I feel like I know a couple things: 1. We have the best defense in the Big 12 2. Our offense is not elite yet... and that could potentially cost us against better offenses. I am still not completely bought in yet cause I am a battered fan. We have to go up to Kansas and take care of business. Can't let the train slow down.. but finally there are signs that this team can be really good and the program is coming back. I'm cautiously optimistic. Gotta beat K-state. HookEm